Government get shirty about Spurs logos

[Deeyal]

Source: Daily Mail

Tottenham are refusing to bow to Government pressure over gambling advertising on children's replica shirts.
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As part of a new state-approved betting industry code, gambling companies which sponsor football clubs will be asked to remove logos from all kits sold to youngsters.
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The code comes into force on 1 September and, although it is voluntary and will not apply to shirts manufactured before that date, Government officials expect to see the ban being adopted before the end of the season. <o:p></o:p>If not, claim <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Whitehall</st1:place></st1:city> sources, all gambling advertising in football could be outlawed.

But Spurs, who have an £8.5 million-a-year deal with online casino operator Mansion, say they have no plans to remove the logos either this season or next. <o:p></o:p>

Executive director Paul Barber said: "Most children want to buy a replica shirt that is authentic, we have not had a single complaint from a parent on the issue." <o:p></o:p>

Spurs will argue the new code does not apply to Mansion because its deal was signed before 1 September. <o:p></o:p>

The club has, however, removed Mansion logos from children's merchandise, such as pyjamas and lunch boxes, and also contributed towards research into problem gambling. <o:p></o:p>

Blackburn, Aston Villa and <st1:place w:st="on">Sunderland</st1:place> also have betting sponsors. <o:p></o:p>


I think this is a little pathetic and another step towards the nanny state. Question, did any of you turn into an alchoholic after buying a spurs shirt in the 80's?

[sebo_sek]

If the government give us a FULL refund from lost revenue - that's fine by me. otherwise they can F*ck right off.

[Rocksuperstar]

so with one hand they want to build a supercasino in an area that needs housing, schools, hospitals, etc.

the other hand is slapping people in the head who have anything to do with gambling.

The left hand holds the pipe, the right hand the lighter...

:lol: you politicians and your drugs...

[Geez]

Question, did any of you turn into an alchoholic after buying a Spurs shirt in the 80's?

It was too late for me - I already was one! :cry:

Mind you, tasting Holsten nearly cured me. :roll:

[mawspurs]

Question, did any of you turn into an alchoholic after buying a spurs shirt in the 80's?


Not yet. But I'm working on it. :beer:

[rooster1]

The gambling logo looks shit anyway.

We should of chose our sponsors more carefully,
like others mentioned on this site when the
deal was spun/done.

[CaptainCat]

The gambling logo looks shit anyway.

We should of chose our sponsors more carefully,
like others mentioned on this site when the
deal was spun/done.

:lol: I really can't figure out whether this is sarcasm or not.

[sebo_sek]

The gambling logo looks shit anyway.

We should of chose our sponsors more carefully,
like others mentioned on this site when the
deal was spun/done.

I think we chose the sponsor after 8.5 million thoughts a year whether to do it or not. In the end I guess it wasn't such a bad decision, and if someone mentions the colour of the logo, they should just grow up.

7th biggest shirt deal IN THE WORLD and some STILL COMPLAIN.:shrug::duh:Eek:bang:

If this was sarcastic then I truely apologise :razz:

[Kendall]

My first Spurs shirt (1991 cup final shirt) didn't have holsten on the front...I didn't mind

[SouthExec]

There has to be more things the Government can do rather than waste time and money worrying about a bloody logo....what about the state of the health care,pensions,over payed politicians,terrorist,illegal immigrants,fuel prices,tax,state of the police force,schools,PC brigade ect ect

and there worried about a logo....

[adoss]

To be honest, and this might not be propular, but I agree with the government (errr I feel all dirty inside now).

I really do hate the way that gambling has stepped into sport and taken up the space once occupied by the tabaco industry. It stinks to high heaven. I admit I am not an avid gambler myself (the odd game of cards with mates the exception that makes the rule) but it just seems wrong to advertise this activity. "It matters more when there's money on it" being the SkyBet moto before every event I watch these days.

I notice someone mentioned that this is the 7th biggest shirt deal (or atleast one of the biggest) at the moment. That in no way makes a difference to me. I'm a Spurs fan because my club stands for something, not cause we sell our space to the highest bidder. If Colt came along and offered us the biggest deal to put their new .45 on the front of our shirts for a few seasons would that make it right?

I know it's not in the same league, but surly we must see sense and reason and not make our kids walk around like bill boards for an industry that ruins lives and blights society in general, especially at the lower end.

Would rather put Unicef on our shirts and let them keep their dirty £8.5m, especially with all the new TV money coming in.

Lets be an example to the rest and prove how greedy football's not...

[adoss]

Also, on a personal note. As I am against the gambling industry generally I wrote to Spurs last season to ask if it would be possible to purchase a shirt without the Mansion logo on it. I claimed this (quite rightly in my opinion (of course)) on moral and religious grounds. I have, thus far, received no reply at all, not even a no...

Now obviously they don't wish to jeperdise in anyway the deal we have as it is on dogdey ground anyway (the guy who signed it is now out of a job and the company see it as a crazy waste of money that they want to get out of ASAP). The Chinese logos on the away shirts, whilst very cool looking, also show how the club is trying to appeas Mansion (by advertising their service to a market that has an emdemic prodlem with gambling addiction).

Thius subject, if you hadn't guessed, hits me right where it hurts. The sooner we are rid of the big RED "M" the better...

[StokeSpur]

and what about the fookin Lottery adverts on the telly?

fkn hypocrites the lot of em.

[Tone]

If Colt came along and offered us the biggest deal to put their new .45 on the front of our shirts for a few seasons would that make it right?

Of course, it wouldn't make it right. I actually agree that it is pretty morally wrong to have a gambling sponsor but my morals have been swept away a little by the $$$.

However.... I do think the Colt sponsorship would look alot better too, and no red in it! :wink:

http://www.tonesplace.com/spurs-colt.jpg

[Makkaveli101]

Of course, it wouldn't make it right. I actually agree that it is pretty morally wrong to have a gambling sponsor but my morals have been swept away a little by the $$$.

However.... I do think the Colt sponsorship would look alot better too, and no red in it! :wink:

http://www.tonesplace.com/spurs-colt.jpg

I can already hear the cries of the whiners! - "First we had Arsenal RED on our logo....now we have the GUNners!"

Alcohol and gambling are VERY much a part of football. Personally, alcohol and watching Spurs go hand-in-hand for me. For many...gambling is a part of their weekend too. Why shouldn't that industry be able to advertise on football shirts? Though I do respect other's differing opinions on this.....in my book...I feel its just more PC brigade bollocks.

As someone brilliantly put it above....wearing Holsten on my shirt didn't make me an alcoholic. Not once have I placed a bet with Mansion since they've sponsored us either. All football advertising is about is BRAND RECOGNITION.....can't believe the fuss that is made about featherweight issues like this.

[davidmatzdorf]

so with one hand they want to build a supercasino in an area that needs housing, schools, hospitals, etc.

the other hand is slapping people in the head who have anything to do with gambling.


It was the Blair government that backed the super-casino. One of the first things that the Brown government did was to cancel it. So actually they're being consistent.

Not that I agree with this kind of interference. I have no interest in gambling at all, in fact I think it's the ultimate mug's game, but it's not as if it kills people - like smoking, for instance, or alcohol.

[rooster1]

I think we chose the sponsor after 8.5 million thoughts a year whether to do it or not. In the end I guess it wasn't such a bad decision, and if someone mentions the colour of the logo, they should just grow up.

7th biggest shirt deal IN THE WORLD and some STILL COMPLAIN.:shrug::duh:Eek:bang:

If this was sarcastic then I truely apologise :razz:

What's childish about mentioning the Mogo/logo.

There are other deals to be done, maybe it should
have been thought out a bit more .

Ok . Let's have it your way,

Mansion is God.

If this was sarcastic then i truely apologise :razz:

[TimJ]

I would prefer to have another sponser as I am not a fan of the gaming industry and, as was mentioned before, I think it is a mugs game.

However, the management are looking out for the best interests of the club trying to get as much money as they can for the team etc. In that sense, if the Govt decides to stop clubs from doing this that is fine but only after the expiry of the current contracts so we do lose out financially.

That said, I think this Govt is a disgrace when I look at how rubbish our schools, hospitals and transport systems are compared to all the increased tax we pay..... so I like the idea of the board telling them to stick it!

[Rocksuperstar]

What's childish about mentioning the Mogo/logo.

There are other deals to be done, maybe it should
have been thought out a bit more .

Ok . Let's have it your way,

Mansion is God.

If this was sarcastic then i truely apologise :razz:

Dude, the Mansion deal was too good to be turned down and, considering the fact we have a board that likely spent months pouring over the contract with the lawers or whatever, i expect the deal was thought out as much as it needed to be.

"Mansion is God" is just being ridiculous, Mansion are just a company who are paying us a shit load of money to have their logo on our shirt.

Do you not trust the board? Do you know something about Mansion we don't? :shrug:

[2bearis2do]

How many kids can work out that M = Mansion = Gambling?

Love the pipe in one hand, lighter in other hand post.

Spot on.

[adoss]

Ok, so the shirt with the Colt on does look pretty sweet (thanks for making me question my own morals as opposed to the coolness factor for a second BTW :-) ). Ironically I think I'm gonna use it as my Avatar, if that's ok with you (yes that will be in a sarcastic manner too :-) ).

As I said above, I don't agree with having a gaming (lets use the PC term shall we) company as a sponsor. People can gamble if they want and I don't mind, just cause I don't agree I don't want it banned or anything, it just seems like a "mugs game" as said above several times. It is just a bit off having the thing on kids shirts or merch. but then I'd say that about alcohol peddlers (lol, how moral majority was that) and cig pushers (I'm, on a roll).

Also, I can see that people don't think it's a problem because they didn't become drunks because of alcohol sponsorship in our youth, but has anyone seen the news about our drink culture recently?? and the massive debt issues that are begining to come around now??

I agree the goverment is hypercritical, but I think the national lottery and espeically scratch cards are a complete joke and blight on our nation. They need to sort themselves out and bve consistant. I knwo which way I'd rather it go, but I can understand that people don't agree.

Anywho, rant over for now. :hump:

[Rocksuperstar]

I don't understand what the fuss is about the Gambling laws anyway - it's not like bankruptcy and insolvency are rife because of gambling - the laws have done fine so far yet, with homelessness, the underfunded NHS, the collapsing school system, underage binge drinking, yob culture etc, the government suddenly need to overhaul a system that seems to be working fine :shrug:

Waste of time, much like all the hoo-haa over Fox-hunting - these are polar issues that should come way, way, WAY down the list of things that need to be sorted in this country.