Dawson charged by FA

[Geez]

Source: Sky Sports

The Football Association have charged Tottenham defender Michael Dawson with improper conduct after he was sent off in the 2-1 defeat at Stoke.

The charge relates to Dawson's behaviour after being shown a red card for serious foul play on Sunday.

The player remonstrated with several officials after being sent off for a lunge on Mamady Sidibe and now has until Wednesday to respond to the charge.

The red card means Dawson faces a three-match ban, but if found guilty of improper conduct he could have the suspension increased.

The news is a blow for Tottenham as they look to recover from making their worst start to a league season in their history.

[hughy]

Hate to say it, but it wouldn't have happened to a Chelsea player.

[Legacy]

No doubt there are quite a few Spurs fans that consider this to be good news.

[davidgee]

why does every article finish with "worst start to a league season in their history"... is it in case we forget!!

FFS

[StokeSpur]

A mistimed tackle from an average player who's always out of position. what can ya say.

not sure of the latest but I hope Corluka isnt out for long, if at all. Thats just what we'd need, no King, no Corluka and a banned Dawson, great!

[Kingstheman]

Now this is kicking us while we are down!

[Jon_Wedge]

Hate to say it, but it wouldn't have happened to a Chelsea player.

Agreed.

[daffygremlin]

Dont get my wrong Dawson works hard, truly cares, and makes the odd good play.........but is this really a big loss?

[TheChosenOne]

Wouldn't have happened to any of the Sky4 "Pro" players, nor would the Bale tackle for the peno have been awarded, they would have given a free kick against Soares for the shoulder nudge prior to Bales fuckup.

[bones82]

Seemed obivous from how Dawson reacted that he thought the challenge was fine, he got the ball first. But a foot did carry over and catch the opposing player in the shin lighty.
Was it a two footed challenge? I don't think so.
Was it a professional foul? No.
Was it a genunie challene? Yes.
Was it worthy of a Red? I don't think so, but studs were showing and the law has been put in place to protect the players, but at the end of the day its the refs choice, and have we put an appeal in?
Should dawson have gone mental? We'll everyone in the pub did, but he is a professional, and should react even though decisions are going against us and we are bottom of the league.

Did any of this really mater, had dawson stayed on the pitch I doubt it would have made any difference by this point. Loosing bale cost us that, and that was his own fault.

Couldn't the referee just given dawson a yellow, and let the game pitter out without adding any further controvesy to our already laughable start to our season.


The "Studs-Up" Tackle
Everyone keeps getting called for this one. Granted, studs in the leg are not an enjoyable or safe experience. Here's the thing: every slide tackle is a "studs-up" tackle. Studs are designed to give you traction. If you slide studs-down, you don't slide - you break your ankle. There has to be some judgment as to what makes a tackle dangerous and a foul, not just the "studs-up" whitewashed definition.

So that it, dawson, break your ankle, and stop acting human. What we need is robot defenders, who's studs retract and have inflatable air bags.

Or maybe the new football boots can add some saftey features to retract studs, when the sense the leg is at around 90 degrees to the ground.


We are going to beat Bolton 4-0, and play 4-4-2!!!
Bent, Lennon, Pavlychenko, Woodgate

COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!

[Sauniere]

Seemed obivous from how Dawson reacted that he thought the challenge was fine, he got the ball first. But a foot did carry over and catch the opposing player in the shin lighty.
Was it a two footed challenge? I don't think so.
Was it a professional foul? No.
Was it a genunie challene? Yes.
Was it worthy of a Red? I don't think so, but studs were showing and the law has been put in place to protect the players, but at the end of the day its the refs choice, and have we put an appeal in?
Should dawson have gone mental? We'll everyone in the pub did, but he is a professional, and should react even though decisions are going against us and we are bottom of the league.

Did any of this really mater, had dawson stayed on the pitch I doubt it would have made any difference by this point. Loosing bale cost us that, and that was his own fault.

Couldn't the referee just given dawson a yellow, and let the game pitter out without adding any further controvesy to our already laughable start to our season.


The "Studs-Up" Tackle
Everyone keeps getting called for this one. Granted, studs in the leg are not an enjoyable or safe experience. Here's the thing: every slide tackle is a "studs-up" tackle. Studs are designed to give you traction. If you slide studs-down, you don't slide - you break your ankle. There has to be some judgment as to what makes a tackle dangerous and a foul, not just the "studs-up" whitewashed definition.

So that it, dawson, break your ankle, and stop acting human. What we need is robot defenders, who's studs retract and have inflatable air bags.

Or maybe the new football boots can add some saftey features to retract studs, when the sense the leg is at around 90 degrees to the ground.


We are going to beat Bolton 4-0, and play 4-4-2!!!
Bent, Lennon, Pavlychenko, Woodgate

COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!

Well said - like the bit about the James Bond stylee football boots :lol:

[bones82]

Reading about it probably was a Red, but found a few people who thought maybe it should have been a yellow:

"I haven't tried to justify the tackle but I seem to be in a minority of one who thinks that a booking would have been ok.
I have promised to watch it again to see if my initial impression was wrong & if it was a full blooded lunge but I do not accept that just because his studs were showing it should be an automatic red. I am also not swayed by the fact that it looked horrible and/or it could have broken Mama's leg. Too many decisions are given based on how injured a person appears to be rather than the cold fact of the tackle itself."
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=print&thread=47866

But then someone says it could have been another Eduardo
"if mama had left his studs in the ground for a second longer, we could be looking at another Eduardo situation. At best it was reckless, at worst it was career ending.....so so glad mama jumped out of it."
Really, the picture looks pretty bad, but thought it was quite slow.

Then someone else had the novel suggestion of
"Definitely a sending off in this day and age. If it were left up to me I'd like to see whether the player receiving the injury stayed on. If so then a yellow. If not then a red and a ban for at least as long as the injured player was out ..."

Are we playing like animals?
"It was interesting to see us being the sinned against for once, and good to see justice done. Hutton should probably have gone too mind, and Woodgate's foul for the penalty was as bad as the yellow card one he'd just done.

They were, quite simply, animals! http://s4.images.proboards.com/grin.gif"

And I though we needed some more ball winners, like a Roy Keane/Carrick???

And the rules
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/14711-foul-ref-the-laws-of-the-game-part-two

Think the answer is to go for the bottom half of the ball, not going to roll foot over then. And quit you moaning, apparently we look like girls, and it doesn't gain us anything, but does relieve stress.

[antlesh]

who cares he is a bolton, hull, stoke player not a european team player!

[Legacy]

who cares he is a bolton, hull, stoke player not a european team player!
Give it a few months and he won't be a European team player anyway, so he'll fit right in.

[bones82]

who cares he is a bolton, hull, stoke player not a european team player!

See how quick Corluka comes back, or might have needed him.

In defence of Dawson he is more of a traditional centre back, who doesn't mind Pummelling his head against a ball until the cows come home.
Need a bit of grit like Hutton, Woodgate, Dawson, Bent to make up for Lennon, dos Santos, Modric.

I remember when it was Dawson and King and they had a good season or two, but without King he lost his confidence. A good back up/number two defender.

Let's hope we don't need to call on his more championship like grit next season.

[Phantom]

His behaviour was no worse than a lot of players after being sent off, yet I don't remember any other player being dealt with in this manner.

[LadieK]

What a joke! He was within his rights, there was no intent!

As someone said earlier - it would NOT have happened to a chelski player, they all bombard the ref!

It never rains but it certainly bloody pours!!

[Makkaveli101]

This is bad news. Though he makes mistakes, he's an experienced Premiership centre back.

Let's hope King can play through the pain barrier. As much as I love him I kind of think now if he can't string 5 games together now at our most desperate time of need..in the history of the club....at 28 years old...what's the point anyway. Things won't be miraculously any better at 30/31 etc Sorry Ledders.

I would rather him put everything into this season, and keep us up and remain a true LEGEND, that gave it his all for the next hundred years than play 20 games a season until he's 32 when age renders his knee useless. Sorry Ledders. Can't believe it's come to this.

He's gotta be hurting so much as well. Our ONE TRUE YIDDO, and he can't play every game.

We need you Ledley!!: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oUkRIgdJciw&feature=related



I know nothing about the reserve/youth team, and I'm aware of the dangers of playing kids when things aren't going well.....but...

Let's hope there's a really strong mental character in that pack that will truly relish and flourish if called upon.

It's worrying times. Our next three games scare the shit out of me, 5pts adrift... andd our last 6 games at the end of the season are scary too.

[Roberts84]

Hate to say it, but it wouldn't have happened to a Chelsea player.
or any other od the top four

[Roehamptonyid]

A bit of grit to make up for Lennon??? Do you watch any tottenham games? Lennon has by far the most 'grit' in a spurs shirt; have never seen him pull out of a tackle and has won more then his fair share of 50/50s.

[JimmyG2]

Have watched the replays many times and I dont think he will get away with it.
He certainly went through the ball but caught the players shin in a way that could have resulted in serious injury.
It was in any case a wild and uneccesary lunge,so late in the game and out on the touchline and with us down to ten men.
He certainly lost it when he was shown the red card and rushed at the referee in an angry and uncontrolled way and was fortunately headed away from the ref by a teamate,not sure who.
He could easily get an additional two match ban.
We need cool heads and good football in this situation.Dawson has plenty of passion and heart but its sometimes not as effective as the people calling for 'destroyers' think.

[Roberts84]

A bit of grit to make up for Lennon??? Do you watch any tottenham games? Lennon has by far the most 'grit' in a spurs shirt; have never seen him pull out of a tackle and has won more then his fair share of 50/50s.

He's been our best player for the last two games

[JuanRebelde]

I felt he was a little unlucky with the red card too as he took the top of the ball and 'rolled over it' to catch the stoke player. I did not see any intent at all to go for the player. His reaction was another issue but I do agree with those who have said that this would not have happened to the 'top four' as they routinely so it seems get away with this type of behaviour.

It is another question entirely as to whether I would want him playing for Spurs given his recent performances in the shirt.

[Paolo10]

He was very unlucky and these tackles happen in nearly every game, it's dissappointing to see so many jump on the fickle bandwagon and criticise Dawson, there was no malice in it, the other player was fine and a booking would have been fair enough. I can understand why Dawson was so annoyed, but his behaviour wasn't acceptable, once the referee gives a decision you have to be big enough to accept it.

Poor show from some 'fans' here jumping the gun though, this forum is getting depressing.

[birdm]

lets not sl@g off daws, he is a squad player who can do a decent job if required. We all know that he gets beaten easy and makes two mistakes a game but we need positive people who want to play for the team. If he can play some cup games and the odd premier game and sit on the bench without moaning then that's what we need. Our version of Oshea or wes brown.

As for the tackle, harsh red and nothing more.

[Sauniere]

I think that the tackle looked worse because the other player's foot was firmly planted on the ground. If it had been a slightly raised leg that moved backwards with the impact I don't think the ref would have red carded him. I don't think there was any intent just a bit overly agressive due to the nature of the game that led to his foot riding over the ball.

I didn't really see a poor reaction to the sending off to be honest just a bit of mouthing and then he waved his arm as if dismissing him. If that constitutes a conduct charge from the FA then I'd really like to know how Wayne Rooney gets away with calling just about every referee a "fucking prick" whenever a decision is given against him. Sometimes it's from a few feet away yet the referees choose to ignore it. In Dawson's case he had a grievance and now will effectively be punished twice. There's no consistency.

[Yakflange]

I've watched the video again and again and I don't see how anyone can say that the tackle didn't deserve a red card. After going over the top of the ball, he had enough time to pull out and not make contact with the player's leg - he did the opposite, following through with his studs on the shin, and then for extra measure added an extra kick with his leg again.
Dangerous, intentional and red card every time for me.
Idiot.

[Yakflange]

I agree with everyone complaining about the misconduct charge though. If that's misconduct, why aren't there five players charged after every game? What about Man United's behaviour at Chelsea, specifically Rio Ferdinand after the final whistle, which looked pretty similar to Dawson's reaction?

[bones82]

Dawson denies FA charge
Defender requests personal hearing

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4369239,00.html

It wasn't me :)