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Geez
26-10-2008, 12:38 AM
The Club can announce that Damien Comolli, Sporting Director, Juande Ramos, Head Coach and First Team Coaches, Marcos Alvarez and Gus Poyet, have left the Club, with immediate effect. We wish them well.

Clive Allen, Development Squad Coach, and Alex Inglethorpe, Youth Team Manager, will take charge for Sunday's League match against Bolton.

An announcement will be made on First Team coaching staff in due course.

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The Club has requested permission to hold discussions with Harry Redknapp and Portsmouth FC has reluctantly agreed.

Ricky_Yid
26-10-2008, 12:40 AM
back to square one then

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 12:40 AM
thank god

robin09
26-10-2008, 12:43 AM
Wtf?!

AndyLov
26-10-2008, 12:45 AM
Not a moment to soon, the man was inept.

strader
26-10-2008, 12:49 AM
What the hell

Azrael
26-10-2008, 12:50 AM
Thank god. Now only Levy needs to resign and we might get somewhere. This had to happen and now it remains to be seen if we get someone in who can turn things around. Still, with Commolie gone Levy might actually get someone decent in....

ricardo_archibald
26-10-2008, 12:50 AM
What a friggin' mess !! :(

strader
26-10-2008, 12:51 AM
i think Terry Venables will take charge for the season only

TrueYid
26-10-2008, 12:52 AM
Can not say I am surprised, but I don't think it will change the outcome of our season.

fvolsen
26-10-2008, 12:53 AM
about time.. lets get roy keane or big sam

strader
26-10-2008, 12:54 AM
harry is coming to spurs

strader
26-10-2008, 12:54 AM
shit its all happening, only at spurs

thfc1989
26-10-2008, 12:54 AM
Oh god we are going down

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 12:55 AM
Harry Redknapp is Spurs manager according to sky sports. What an evening

Azrael
26-10-2008, 12:55 AM
i think Terry Venables will take charge for the season only
No fucking way. He's a money grabbing mercenary these days. Take your rose tinted glasses off and take a look at the record at his last few clubs.

rabs
26-10-2008, 12:55 AM
gus gone too. we are gonna get murdered by bolton now. i would have thought theyd at least give him the bolton game, but maybe after a sit down today they realised he didnt have the solutions to get us out of this mess.

interesting that poyet went too..

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 12:56 AM
Sky sports news have just said that Portsmouth have agreed to hold talks to Spurs regarding Harry redknapp

strader
26-10-2008, 12:56 AM
Defoe is coming back

beals
26-10-2008, 12:57 AM
What a joke we are, the night before one of the most important games in our recent history, typical...

strader
26-10-2008, 12:57 AM
Can someone shut JASON CUNDY UP

dj2gee
26-10-2008, 12:58 AM
skysports are saying we're agreed a deal for redknapp...

Jules77
26-10-2008, 01:00 AM
what a shame... such optimism just a few months ago, and now this.

how does the plan to have a DoF and manager to maintain continuity if the manager goes fit into this.. surely if both have to go then the buck stops with Levy for fuc#@$ing up the system.

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 01:00 AM
Man i am shocked but we did see the sacking coming.

strader
26-10-2008, 01:00 AM
on official site

The Club has requested permission to hold discussions with Harry Redknapp and Portsmouth FC has reluctantly agreed.

strader
26-10-2008, 01:01 AM
To be honest RAMOS HAD LOST THE PLOT

fredrikstad
26-10-2008, 01:02 AM
Cant say I want Redknapp..

Bring back Martin Jol!!!!!!!!!!!:clap:

rabs
26-10-2008, 01:02 AM
the last year of tottingham hotspurs has been a complete and utter rollercoaster. at least no one can call us boring.

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 01:02 AM
Can you believe. Same time lasy year, Jol was sacked.

Hopefully no DOF anymore at Spurs. it didnt work and ruined us.

strader
26-10-2008, 01:03 AM
I honestly have to say LEVY has got balls

vietnam1973
26-10-2008, 01:04 AM
if anyone can turn it around redknapp can, feel bad for ramos, what the fuck happend?
ony this can happen at spurs

rabs
26-10-2008, 01:05 AM
anyone looking forward to Juande's column in the programme tomorrow? interesting...

vietnam1973
26-10-2008, 01:05 AM
does this mean tony adams at the lane?????

strader
26-10-2008, 01:05 AM
Tony adams as coaching assitant

strader
26-10-2008, 01:06 AM
i believe harry will build that spirit, confidence we have lacked as honestly we have the best squad in the league bar the top 4

GazzasBelly
26-10-2008, 01:07 AM
well what a total waste of point the last year has been.

blochuk
26-10-2008, 01:07 AM
Ramos had to go as things really were bleak but Redknapp as Spur manager....surely we can do better.....we have to do better

macspurs
26-10-2008, 01:07 AM
Redknapp may not be many peoples first choice for manager, but he could be the guy to salvage this miserable season. By salvage I mean not get relegated.
We all know that we have some great players - what there isn't is any visable team spirit. Harry Redknapp does know how to drain every last drop out of his players, and should get them playing together.
I am a bit suprised that so many have gone today. Quite an admission by Levy really when you think about it.

daffygremlin
26-10-2008, 01:08 AM
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/clubannouncement251008a.html
spurs talking with harry

strader
26-10-2008, 01:10 AM
I AM HAPPY, we just couldn't continue this way. 2 blasted points and couldnt beat hull, sunderland at home and even stoke. No it had to stop

Corky
26-10-2008, 01:11 AM
on the basis Poyet and Alvarez are going too I would hazard a guess that the Rednapp thing is a done deal - I just hope he doesn't bring Adams with him !!

cwhite02
26-10-2008, 01:12 AM
Wow....I do feel for Ramos as I feel we are sh1te up front, wont score enough and blame comolli for the transfers. I feel kind of excited as I think maybe we will see us win again....Now actually looking forward to going tomorrow.

COYS!!

'Arry Rednapp's blue White army!!

GazzasBelly
26-10-2008, 01:12 AM
I honestly believe if Harry does take over then JD will be back in January. Mark my words it will happen.

Berbamaniac
26-10-2008, 01:13 AM
What an absolute bloody joke of a club. Shambles.

cwhite02
26-10-2008, 01:16 AM
Wow, on SSN, they have just spoke to Harry and he has agreed to join us!! Wowzers.

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 01:16 AM
Sky Sports have confirmed that Harry Redknapp is the Spurs Manager

tommo84
26-10-2008, 01:16 AM
I'm as happy as I am stunned, but not sure if the timing is all that great. The team may be in even more disarray for tomorrow's game than if Ramos had taken charge, and then been sacked on Monday.

As for Redknapp - I'll be as surprised as I will be pleased if he takes the job. Not least because with his son working for Sky, they would actually have to start being nice about us!

But we definitely need someone with much Premiership experience in order to keep us up.

COYS!!!

P.S Good luck Gus - Possibly the right man at the wrong time.

cwhite02
26-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Another 5 year plan??

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 01:18 AM
Didnt Spurs tell Poyet not to take the Newcastle job as he was guarenteed the Spurs job when Ramos left.

Feel sorry for Poyet.

tcyrus
26-10-2008, 01:18 AM
W.T.F Redknapp (championship here we come ) !

cwhite02
26-10-2008, 01:19 AM
We've paid 5 mil for Harry!! His words as the club needed the money!

Kingstheman
26-10-2008, 01:19 AM
Who knows, who knows...

We are in turmoil or not?

This has the hallmarks of a Shakespearean play.

rabs
26-10-2008, 01:20 AM
poyet could still go newcastle and kinnear is only on a temp contract. very possible

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 01:21 AM
Harry said Pompey were gonna sell players in January.

Diarra and Defoe at the lane.

vietnam1973
26-10-2008, 01:21 AM
he gonna be the manager tomorow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shakus
26-10-2008, 01:21 AM
I suppose seeing as Harry was buying half of our 1st team he may as well run the club instead and do it full time.

As previously mentioned I aint sure about his credentials in terms of doing stuff above board, but based on his track record for getting teams out of an almighty hole and staving off Relegation he's the one needed at the helm. Beggars can't be choosers and I don't see any other manager either wanting the role or having enough gusto to get the job done.

Both Kaboul and Defoe commented recently that the reason players perform well for him is that he persistently gives them belief and allows them to trust their instincts and ability as he gives them the confidence even if they don't. By god do we need some of that right now in our lot.

Lord know how much compensation it's going to take, for paying off Ramos and for Portsmouth, so long as it's less than £50m and indignity of dropping a league it will be worth it. I wonder if we've used the excess transfer kitty to cover this?

jolsnogross
26-10-2008, 01:21 AM
Delighted. Comolli should never have been hired and Ramos was a complete joke at Tottenham. Levy has ballsed this up in a huge way - backing Comolli instead of Jol the summer after he led us to a consecutive 5th place finish was a major howler. Those who called for Jol to be sacked need to take a good look at how they view on-the-field progress at Spurs.

Of course, we're still in the crapper and this may make no difference. But Redknapp or whoever couldn't do a lousier job than Ramos.
And I wonder if Comolli will be replaced, or has Levy also shown the door to that bullshit too.

kernowspur
26-10-2008, 01:21 AM
What a mess!!! Five managers in as many seasons and Harry make six, no wonder we are a joke. Don't expect much in the way of exciting football from Harry. Does this mean Defoe will come back in January?

strader
26-10-2008, 01:22 AM
Now our manager is talking

brasil_spur
26-10-2008, 01:24 AM
Complete and utter madness!!!! However i'm glad Levy had the balls to clean out the DoF as well as Ramos. Feel sorry for Gus though!

Come on 'arry!!!! And make sure to bring a few of those players with you!

kernowspur
26-10-2008, 01:25 AM
In any other business Levy's position would be untenable

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 01:26 AM
Harry has admitted that he wished Defoe was still at Spurs.

ziggy
26-10-2008, 01:26 AM
I really don't know what to say :-| I thought Ramos deserved more time, that the club were all about continuity :roll: It has to be said that if Jol was sacked, and I agreed he had to go because he had lost the dressing room and the powers that be deigned that Ramos was the man to bring us on, then how does the amount of time he's had give any confidence to anyone about our club ?

Was it Ramos fault we sold our souls in the last window ?

That said I will give my full backing to the new manager, he's done wonders at Pompey so hopefully he will do it for us, just hope he can do it without any strikers.

This is SUCH an admission of incompitence it's unbelieveable, that said if Levy truley feels that nothing can be done to salvage the club then it's best to act now rather than later I do admit.

Have to say that I feel for Pompey fans, and Ramos, Gus and Alvarez.

Welsome twitchy face to the lane and may God rest your soul

GazzasBelly
26-10-2008, 01:28 AM
fuck me anyone watching setanta?

GazzasBelly
26-10-2008, 01:29 AM
Harry is the man!!!!

james82mckay
26-10-2008, 01:29 AM
redknapp's just confermed it on setanta sports news! he's going to be at the lane tommorrow with the team etc!

Kingstheman
26-10-2008, 01:29 AM
I questioned Ramos' credentials to manage Tottenham Hotspur last year.

I argued in particular with The Original Yiddster, who told me Ramos was 'proven quality'.

I feel a small sense of smug self satisfaction. It is a pity it has come at the expense of Tottenham Hotspur.

tommo84
26-10-2008, 01:29 AM
As for Redknapp - I'll be as surprised as I will be pleased if he takes the job. .

I'm very surprised and very pleased. I've always liked 'Arry, have I never mentioned how much I love him?! :wink:

Stono
26-10-2008, 01:32 AM
Bloody hell.. Haven't been online for a while and this is what greets me...

Thrilled to get rid of Comolli, ok with getting rid of Ramos but would like to have kept Gus, especially if this means Tony Adams will be joining the club... After seeing what Redknapp has done with Pompey, I have started believing in the guy. This could turn out well.

sxboy
26-10-2008, 01:33 AM
HARRY REDKNAPPS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY

Sorry to say that this needed to happen, back to basics. I am very happy with Arry, i couldnt see a way our set up was going to get us out of trouble and with Arry i can. He wont stand for a DOF as well so thank god that era has gone.

tommo84
26-10-2008, 01:37 AM
I feel sorry for Pompey fans. Except that idiot with the bells. He deserves everything he gets!

'Arry better not be thinking of bringing S*l back with him though. Just a thought.

Aww its gonna feel weird in Park Lane tomorrow - there may actually be some optimism!!

Seanson
26-10-2008, 01:39 AM
I honestly have to say LEVY has got balls The relegation shot gun was at his head with a loss to Bolton effectively meaning teh Championship. Still some balls.

gloryglory
26-10-2008, 01:40 AM
You have to applaud decisive action. It was Levy's wavering last year that was the worst thing about Jol's exit. I didn't agree with that decision, but I understood it - it was the indecision that was unforgivable.

This time I do agree with the decision, although clearly some won't, and it sure is an expensive one. Indeed the whole Ramos/Comolli/Poyet era will go down as an extraordinarily expensive saga. But I for one couldn't see Ramos turning it around, and "giving him a chance" wasn't going to get us anywhere but further behind. It looked inevitable, and sooner now than later. Especially with a replacement lined up.

I've never liked Harry Redknapp much and I don't see him as someone who will ever break us into the top 4, so when we were linked with him a year ago I was furious. But a lot changes in a year. It's not about the top 4 now, it's about survival, galvanising the club, making some good deals in January and rescuing our season. For that job, Harry is a top choice.

Managers are always linked with their former players and it rarely happens, but in this case there is also bound to be a Portsmouth firesale and Defoe in particular could be keen to return - but Crouch and Diarra have to be possibilities too, and they're just what we need.

And one last word, for those who argued whether it was primarily Comolli's fault or Ramos's, we're spared having to worry about it! My 2p's worth was always that neither of them could be doing a good job if they were allowing the other to ruin the club. So ultimately, both were to blame - some bad signings, some bad sales, some bad luck, some bad team selections, a total clearout needed, and now here it is. Say what you like, it's never dull being a Spurs fan. I never thought I'd say it, but Harry Redknapp is in town and for the first time since February, I'm optimistic about the future.

nav007_2000
26-10-2008, 01:40 AM
Good night everyone. And come on you Spurs.

Wu_Tom
26-10-2008, 01:44 AM
I can't decide if this is good or bad news. On the one hand we're back to where we were last year, and on the other hand is the possibility of a competent manager....and maybe Defoe

kelloggs
26-10-2008, 01:50 AM
Well I calculate that as a £25M balls up! At least we can look forward now!

tttcowan
26-10-2008, 01:52 AM
I just really hope this puts an end to this DOF bullshite once and for all... please Levy please please please just let Harry do his job.

jolsnogross
26-10-2008, 01:52 AM
I really don't know what to say :-| I thought Ramos deserved more time, that the club were all about continuity :roll: It has to be said that if Jol was sacked, and I agreed he had to go because he had lost the dressing room and the powers that be deigned that Ramos was the man to bring us on, then how does the amount of time he's had give any confidence to anyone about our club ?

Was it Ramos fault we sold our souls in the last window ?

Give it up son - you really need to take a good look at yourself. Sacking Jol was madness, the time for continuity and not panicking was then. Jol losing the dressing room is all in your head. Ramos has been utterly useless at Spurs, the players themselves said we're shit and rudderless, and he deserves the sack now as much a Jol didn't then. He was brought in to get us to 'the next level' and bring more out of a talented squad. What a joker. And yes, Ramos is not completely blameless for the summer's disastrous destruction of the team.

davidgee
26-10-2008, 01:53 AM
listening to 'arry on SSN, he knows whats to be done... he has come on his terms and has always wanted this job.

maybe thats why he bought so many of our players!!!! ;0)

supachan
26-10-2008, 01:55 AM
Well I calculate that as a £25M balls up! At least we can look forward now!

Yep !! At least the Berba and Keano money paid for somethin :omg:

Legacy
26-10-2008, 02:02 AM
I really don't know what to say :-| I thought Ramos deserved more time, that the club were all about continuity :roll: It has to be said that if Jol was sacked, and I agreed he had to go because he had lost the dressing room and the powers that be deigned that Ramos was the man to bring us on, then how does the amount of time he's had give any confidence to anyone about our club ?

Was it Ramos fault we sold our souls in the last window ?

That said I will give my full backing to the new manager, he's done wonders at Pompey so hopefully he will do it for us, just hope he can do it without any strikers.

This is SUCH an admission of incompitence it's unbelieveable, that said if Levy truley feels that nothing can be done to salvage the club then it's best to act now rather than later I do admit.

Have to say that I feel for Pompey fans, and Ramos, Gus and Alvarez.

Welsome twitchy face to the lane and may God rest your soul
Partly, yes. It was Ramos that said he didn't want Berbatov and Keane to be a part of his squad once they said they'd like permission to leave. Had he declined their requests, one or even both of them may still begrudgingly be here, at least until January. I don't care what anybody says, a slightly unsettled Keane and Berbatov is still infinitely better than no Keane and Berbatov.

spursbhoy67
26-10-2008, 02:03 AM
Jolsnogross, I agree with you that Ramos deserved the sacked, but so did Jol. Not on his three seasons with us, but on how things had gone and were going for him this time last year. We were staring at the same abyss.

And yes Jol had lost some of the dressing room as Ziggy mentioned. The atmosphere behind the scenes was heading the way it is right now.

MidnightCaller
26-10-2008, 02:05 AM
Good luck to Ramos and Poyet, it was not your fault that a Director of Football sold three world class strikers (Berbatov, Keane and Defoe) and buy one who is similar to Darren Bent.

Also goes and sales Teemu Tainio, Pascal Chimbonda, Anthony Gardner, Steed Malbranque, Younes Kaboul, Paul Robinson, Young-Pyo Lee, Paul Stalteri, Wayne Routledge, Philip Ifil.

Then he buys players we did not need buys a right winger Bentley when we have Aaron Lennon, buys attacking midfielder Modric when we have many attacking midfielders.

Commoli should never have been hired, does not know anything about football.

Times goes on and Redknapp will be his own man with buying in January.

gaganelov
26-10-2008, 02:09 AM
Levy washing his hand with Ramos.

sak11
26-10-2008, 02:12 AM
levy is a clever cookie... its obvious he knows that our chances of winning against bolton are pretty low, hence he has bitten the bullet before the game so if we do lose then changes are already afoot thus taking the sting out of defeat, if we win then great!!
just been listening to Harry on SSN, he used to train at spurs as an 11yr old with danny blanchflower, mackay and the others of that period.. that I did not know about hangdog (do we still call him that now he's our manager?!!).
i am in shock by the events of the evening!

Lachster the Yid
26-10-2008, 02:12 AM
Well done Levy. Doesn't get enough credit as taken the necessary action before its too late

kicked
26-10-2008, 02:14 AM
Personally, I don't think Ramos is as bad as his Spurs record suggests. Maybe he just didn't get the british game, maybe he just didn't get the backing or just maybe he wasn't right for us. The guy had a very good record and I think it was right that he should be tried out. It didn't work out for whatever reason....but now
..... we have Harry Redknapp. I know he went down with West Ham, he went down with AFC Bournemouth and he went down with Portsmouth, however these were clubs that needed to sell to survive whereas Tottenham Hotspur don't have such a need. He has built very good squads and obviously has a good network of scouts as this is the guy who uncovered the likes of Defoe, Carrick, Lampard and Ferdinand as well as suck gems as Gerry Peyton, Sean O'Driscoll and Efan Ekoku (being a bit of an AFC Bournemouth fan these guys were huge when the Cherries got promoted to the old division 2. (Peyton was ROI's number 2 behind Pat Bonner and Efan went on to play for the then high flying Norwich that got into europe)

What Harry will do with us is anyones guess. What will his team be like as he now has buying power and won't need to sell his best players to survive is also anyones guess but one thing is for sure, his teams certainly like to beat SAF's Manure!! Nice!

I am slightly gutted after the last years fiasco and am sorry to see Ramos and Poyet go, mainly cos i had high hopes for them and i think most people in football thought we were eventually going somewhere.

January transfer window is going to be interesting ;)

ziggy
26-10-2008, 02:17 AM
Give it up son - you really need to take a good look at yourself. Sacking Jol was madness, the time for continuity and not panicking was then. Jol losing the dressing room is all in your head. Ramos has been utterly useless at Spurs, the players themselves said we're shit and rudderless, and he deserves the sack now as much a Jol didn't then. He was brought in to get us to 'the next level' and bring more out of a talented squad. What a joker. And yes, Ramos is not completely blameless for the summer's disastrous destruction of the team.

Do you remember those last few Jol games ? my god we were almost as inept as we are now. That said I love being called son at my age :grin: and to save going over old ground I call a truce and give my full backing to 'Arry and just hope he can do something with our beloved team :beer:

kicked
26-10-2008, 02:17 AM
Jolsnogross, I agree with you that Ramos deserved the sacked, but so did Jol. Not on his three seasons with us, but on how things had gone and were going for him this time last year. We were staring at the same abyss.

And yes Jol had lost some of the dressing room as Ziggy mentioned. The atmosphere behind the scenes was heading the way it is right now.

Also Jol had Keano and Berba who saved his ass on some bad tactical changes a few times by scoring something out of nothing or a goal from Robbos punt onto Berbas head flicked on to Keano for a goal!

fedupyid
26-10-2008, 02:18 AM
It is a good thing for Spurs it is the end of DOF system. The end of a C*** Defense and we may actually end up with a balanced squad. This man also developed the best English Youth System at West Ham.

coatescombover
26-10-2008, 02:19 AM
Probably a good appointment given our circumstances.
Time to break out the Sham 69. Hurry up Harry.

doom
26-10-2008, 02:20 AM
makes you wonder if the so called levy protest planned for today's game had an effect on his decision.

brasil_spur
26-10-2008, 02:21 AM
Well I calculate that as a £25M balls up! At least we can look forward now!

How do you calculate that????

The OS says that Ramos, Alvarez and Gus all left the club, so no-one knows yet whether they walked or were sacked.

If they walked then they won't likely get much cash.

spurs_viola
26-10-2008, 02:32 AM
Ramos was a glorious opportunity of success totally wrecked by misfortune and mismanagement from the board. The man is a top top quality coach who was badly let down by the people he relied on in his plans for taking the club upwards, not just in terms of league placings, but in terms of style and performance. Keane, Berbatov, Jenas, Zokora, Bale, Bentley, Bent on the one side...Comolli and Levy on the other.

Redknapp's record this season is hardly very uplifting either - think back to 0-4 twice v Chelsea, 0-6 v Man City and this week's 0-3 capitulation to a team like Braga in UEFA Cup (something which deserved much more scorn from the media than our loss with 10 men against a team 2nd in Serie A!). Some of his new signings have so far shown to be a failure, none more than Kaboul, justifying Ramos' misgivings totally.

Apart from Defoe (if he wishes now), no other ex-Spurs man should be taken back. Mendes would have been worth considering, but he is no longer with Redknapp either.

But Redknapp's experience in the Premiership and his "Britishness" will most probably help a team like current Spurs to survive in the league.
For me, one of the most important decisions I wish to see from the new manager will be whether he persists with Jenas and Zokora "partnership" or actually does something about it in January. Diarra to replace at least one of them?

Alan Brazil's haircut
26-10-2008, 02:45 AM
According to wiki, Redknapp was a gooner as a lad... One up for fan power anyway and maybe results will improve but what is a club profited, if it shall gain £60 mil in a transfer window and continue f***ing over its managers. Harry should watch his back.

Spurs1
26-10-2008, 02:46 AM
I have to say I also think something had to be done asap. I think ramos is a good manager but will not be successful in england. I am sure he will go back to spain and be successful.

I can see harry getting us winning and back up to mid table however when we need to push on from there i dont know if harry has what it takes. He realistically has never had the opportunity to do this with another club so im very open minded.

Onwards and upwards

yid-2-the-o
26-10-2008, 02:51 AM
Ramos was a glorious opportunity of success totally wrecked by misfortune and mismanagement from the board. The man is a top top quality coach who was badly let down by the people he relied on in his plans for taking the club upwards, not just in terms of league placings, but in terms of style and performance. Keane, Berbatov, Jenas, Zokora, Bale, Bentley, Bent on the one side...Comolli and Levy on the other.

Redknapp's record this season is hardly very uplifting either - think back to 0-4 twice v Chelsea, 0-6 v Man City and this week's 0-3 capitulation to a team like Braga in UEFA Cup (something which deserved much more scorn from the media than our loss with 10 men against a team 2nd in Serie A!). Some of his new signings have so far shown to be a failure, none more than Kaboul, justifying Ramos' misgivings totally.

Apart from Defoe (if he wishes now), no other ex-Spurs man should be taken back. Mendes would have been worth considering, but he is no longer with Redknapp either.

But Redknapp's experience in the Premiership and his "Britishness" will most probably help a team like current Spurs to survive in the league.
For me, one of the most important decisions I wish to see from the new manager will be whether he persists with Jenas and Zokora "partnership" or actually does something about it in January. Diarra to replace at least one of them?

Absolutely spot on mate! I was just about to post saying almost exactly the same thing.

As for the people saying a loss against Bolton and were relegated. I seem to remember Fulham getting out of a situation similar to that we would be in (5,6? points off safety) with just a handful of games left. I would have said 30 odd games would be sufficient to make up 6 points against teams who are losing every week anyway, don't be so ridiculous.

Wu_Tom
26-10-2008, 02:57 AM
How do you calculate that????

The OS says that Ramos, Alvarez and Gus all left the club, so no-one knows yet whether they walked or were sacked.

If they walked then they won't likely get much cash.

Somehow I doubt they all walked out together

BringBack_leGin
26-10-2008, 03:06 AM
I am speechless, absolutely astounded. I never think Spurs can further surprise me, and yet they always do

Gobsmacked, absolutely bamboozled. This has knocked me for six. I don't know whether I'm happy, sad, dissappointed or mad. All I know is that there is never a dull moment at Spurs.

spursFanKC
26-10-2008, 03:21 AM
wow - this was a shocker. first of all i think that Ramos is a good coach but I am not sure how long it would have taken him to build a team that could compete in the EPL. The team at the moment seems directionless and definitely lacks confidence. I am still trying to work out what Ramos is trying to do with his selections as he is constantly tinkering and seems to play players out of position. I still think our midfield is too lighweight for the EPL.What we won't know (until the first book is written!) is what went on in the Summer! The loss of Keane was a surprise, the loss of Berbatov not and soemone should have planned better for that. The other signings leave a lot to be desired at the moment. Will Harry help us is the million dollar question? Harry brings great experience of the EPL and seems to build competitive teams with limited resources. His players seem to want to play hard for him and so it will be interesting to see how the next couple of weeks pan out. I thinl that he will get the team playing together and add passion to our game. He seems to know that a good defence is critical to a team and so that will be a plus as well.

Bottom line I am disappointed because we have lost our stability again. I am losing count of the number of managers that we have had over the last couple of years. Finally I would say good luck to Ramos and Poyet and am keepng my fingers crossed that Harry starts to make the team competitive again.

ziggy
26-10-2008, 03:22 AM
Ramos was a glorious opportunity of success totally wrecked by misfortune and mismanagement from the board. The man is a top top quality coach who was badly let down by the people he relied on in his plans for taking the club upwards, not just in terms of league placings, but in terms of style and performance. Keane, Berbatov, Jenas, Zokora, Bale, Bentley, Bent on the one side...Comolli and Levy on the other.

Redknapp's record this season is hardly very uplifting either - think back to 0-4 twice v Chelsea, 0-6 v Man City and this week's 0-3 capitulation to a team like Braga in UEFA Cup (something which deserved much more scorn from the media than our loss with 10 men against a team 2nd in Serie A!). Some of his new signings have so far shown to be a failure, none more than Kaboul, justifying Ramos' misgivings totally.

Apart from Defoe (if he wishes now), no other ex-Spurs man should be taken back. Mendes would have been worth considering, but he is no longer with Redknapp either.

But Redknapp's experience in the Premiership and his "Britishness" will most probably help a team like current Spurs to survive in the league.
For me, one of the most important decisions I wish to see from the new manager will be whether he persists with Jenas and Zokora "partnership" or actually does something about it in January. Diarra to replace at least one of them?

Agree totally, but it's all too late now so i'm just crossing everything that the club comes out OK from all of this.

brasil_spur
26-10-2008, 03:23 AM
Somehow I doubt they all walked out together

Probably right, but let's wait and see before making assumptions about it costing us £25m......

UncleBuck
26-10-2008, 03:29 AM
In all honesty I feel more p!ssed for Gus Poyet than anyone else as he has at least been shown to put a shift in or two, the guy has passion! Thinking about it would we have been stupid as a club to have appointed him as a manager with a new director of football coming in? Would have saved us an initial 20 million quid.....

Destroyer
26-10-2008, 03:36 AM
Bottom line I am disappointed because we have lost our stability again.

Whats the point in stability if you get relegated for it ???

Destroyer
26-10-2008, 03:39 AM
As for all those saying how sorry they are for Gus - when Gus first came in with Ramos he was much more efficient & showing his commitment, but i cant say ive seen that since we won the Carling Cup. Seems like they all thought it was job done.

theoldguy
26-10-2008, 03:49 AM
Well, I'd like to welcome Harry, for many years one of my favourite managers. According to the Beeb Harry says he always wanted to manage "a big club" so at least he views us as we see ourselves. With West Ham and subsequently he seems able to instil confidence in his players and that is what the squad needs most of all right now. I'm feeling more optimistic now. As for Ramos I don't believe he understood the English game and especially the sheer physicality of the Premiership. Hopefully he will return to Spain and recover from the shock he has had with us. Incidentally did anyone else pick up on the commentator comment (I think in a UEFA match) where it was said that some held the opinion that the DOF at his previous club was the mastermind bringing the right players to the club so Ramos' job was relatively simple? Maybe someone in the Spanish contingent of Spurs supporters would care to comment. Whatever, good luck to Juande who at the very least has our players fitter than they've been in a few years. Under Harry I believe the players will use that fitness to greater purpose. "Bringback-legin" "gobsmacked" etc.? With all your years of supporting Spurs, surely, like me, you've seen it all by now.

Tone
26-10-2008, 04:38 AM
Wow. Pretty much just arrived in Denver for hols, driven an hour into the rockey mountains, hooked up wifi in hotel room to check for somewhere to eat and BAM... this news!
This is a pretty hardcore cleanout! I may not be 'Arry's biggest fan, but in this relegation battle we are surely in (this early? madness!) I feel he is just who we need.
I do, however wish Ramos the best of luck in the future and hope he gets back to his winning days soon. He's proved himself a good manager in the past, and as theoldguy said, he just couldn't get to grips with what the EPL was all about. Shame.....
Right, I'm jetlagged and probably talking twaddle!

Wu_Tom
26-10-2008, 04:45 AM
I've noticed most people rejoicing at the sacking of Damien Comolli but that doesn't necessarily mean thats the end of the Sporting Director role at the club does it

Wu_Tom
26-10-2008, 04:45 AM
Does it?

Mooch
26-10-2008, 04:46 AM
My mate texted me this news when I was out clubbing. I thought he was having a laugh! Then I get home to see the news all over Sky.
I really hope Harry turns it around for us...he certainly knows the premiership inside out. COYS!

glenda
26-10-2008, 05:09 AM
thank fuck for that i could not bare to see ramos in charge any longer!!! he was worst than Sven!!!! if its harry then let get it sorted.

BelsizeSpur
26-10-2008, 05:25 AM
The best part of this is the probably £10 million plus this shambles will cost the club (5 for Pompey, f**k knows how much for Ramos and the others). It shows that Mr. Levy is not quite the best businessman on the planet.

pezinhoTHFC
26-10-2008, 05:25 AM
Like a lot of players, some managers just dont seem to cut the mustard in the Premier League.

I do feel for Ramos because he is clearly a successful manager. He brought us our first silverware in 9 years and we need to remember that. I also feel for Gus Poyet because I think he handled the media extremely well since he and Ramos took charge.

However, it didnt work out for them and they have paid the ultimate price; a price we knew all too well was on the cards. Im a bit surprised it's been done the day before a league game...but is there any good, appropriate or preferrable time for such action?

So the news is Redknapp is in line to be our next Manager. I, for one, am overjoyed at that prospect. He has a fantastic pedigree, great reputation and is a proven winner now. He has obviously studied the goings on at the Lane from afar already and clearly understands that we have a lack of leadership and certainty in the middle of the park. I seriously would not bet against Jermain Man coming back to WHL and furthermore, I cant wait to see who, if anyone, he brings in as Asst Coach.

Farewell Juande, Gus & Marcos, really appreciate your efforts and thank you for the CC victory.

Come on 'Arry, take Tottenham back to the glory days x

See ya at the Emirates son!

Bill_Oddie
26-10-2008, 05:38 AM
Ooh, our very own 'Night of the long knives'. Cool. I missed these.

So, welcome BAR. Hopefully you can teach the club a thing or two about dealing with the press and public, if nothing else.

And nice to see a certain consistency over fans showing total commitment and support for a senior management figure who would rather have been at the Bar Codes. Bless.

Cruyff
26-10-2008, 07:10 AM
Was Comolli listed first in the announcement because he was considered more important or senior than Ramos?

adwanhussein
26-10-2008, 07:28 AM
Saturday night massacre ,good riddance ,The Spurs can only improve because they have no other way to go.

Bill_Oddie
26-10-2008, 07:51 AM
Was Comolli listed first in the announcement because he was considered more important or senior than Ramos?

Well, he was his boss, so...

StauntonSpur
26-10-2008, 08:21 AM
Like I said over the recent years , sooner or later we have to stick with someone or we ain't never going anywhere.......
Its not supprising , when you see us play you can see what a mess it is ,but given time and the right support I think Ramos would have turned us into a class side.. A big plus, at least there was a real clear out ......
I think Harry can do a good job for us lets hope he get full reign.

The King is Dead Long Live the King.....

rooster1
26-10-2008, 08:42 AM
FLASHBACK !

WE can only presume that Levy comes back, emergency board meeting !!
They decide a rescue plan. They call in Ramos, Poyet and Comolli to ask
what's going on. They all point the finger at each other.
Levy cuts the air with a knife. You're all SACKED.


C'mon, C'mon, hurry up Harry , C'mon...........

Haven't we already got a Harry Hotspur ?

Back to reality, 3 points today, please Harry.

Garm
26-10-2008, 09:17 AM
Harry will rescue us!

Now bring in Defoe, Crouch and Diarra in january :grin:

WhiteHeartLowe
26-10-2008, 10:15 AM
Actually I will be sorry to see Ramos, and especially Gus Poyet go. Redknapp is hardly a step up in my estimation. Our current problems stem from the fact that the heart was ripped out of the team in the transfer window, it is well known that Ramos likes his summer transfers over with early in the window (as opposed to midnight on the last day), I also believe that he wasnt given the players that he wanted or thought we needed, to replace the ones who left. Once a team gets into this spiral of getting beat on a Saturday, losing confidence so playing badly, so losing again, it can be very difficult to break out of it, it can be done, if they have the quality, (and Ibelieve we do), but it takes TIME. Had Ramos been allowed that time, I always beleived that we would have avoided the drop this season, if nothing else, then we would have been able to build a decent squad for next year. Now, we are back to square one. And if Harry doesnt turn it around in a few months will we sack him too?
This is a bad dream!

infamousyiddo
26-10-2008, 10:21 AM
WOW!!!!

just hearing about this, WOW!!!

After thursday ramos HAD to go. the team is in disarray, players have no clue about what their role is on the pitch, and tactically i felt he didnt have the answers to drag us out of this. saying that i DONT think he is a bad manager.

The back room staff also had to go as im sure Redknapp will want to bring in his own back room staff.

as for redknapp, theres no doubt that ramos is a better tactician and has done more in his career, but if there is a manager who can drag us out of this it is redknapp, as he has so much experience in this situation.

Reckon we will go back to 4-4-2, I think (HOPE) that he strips King of the captaincy, as its pointless having a part-time captain, and i think come january harry will indentify want we REALLY need.

Also i think its the end of the DoF for us, as i cant see Harry working under someone. HOORAY.

Ramos, thanks for the carlling cup, and I will you well for the future.

HARRY REDKNAPPS BLUE AND WHITE AAARMYYYY!!

COYS

StokeSpur
26-10-2008, 10:22 AM
Thank fuck Comolli has gone!! but how long before Levy fucks up another manager, that twitch of 'Arry's' will become worse each transfer window!

What a twat Levy has made us look again!

On the upside it looks like the DOF has been scrapped.. woo fkn hoooo!

DefoeFan
26-10-2008, 10:26 AM
Personally I'm delighted, especially with comolli gone.. Harry really has free reign and can bring in whoever he likes from the ground up...

Sorry but I don't think poxy gooner adams will be coming, And if you listen carefully to harry's interview he doesn't want him either...

Love to see defoe comeback and play for the club he really loves...

IMO Ramos tinkered with formations and selections WAY too much.. playing players way out of position.. I'm glad he's gone...

If Jol was given the same lone gunman role as harry has been given now. I'm sure we'd be in the champions league now.. But the past is the past.. And lets forget about what could have been and all the pointless posts about given managers more time.. We have a great english manager at last, for which I'm glad

crowster
26-10-2008, 10:26 AM
Harry is one of the best man managers in the game. Players always seem to enjoy playing for him. I personally think he is the right replacement for Ramos who I think was unlucky to have Commoli as DOF!! COYS

Roberts84
26-10-2008, 10:39 AM
thanks to the fuckers leaving we still have no grit, midfield or strikers. cheers Commoli you toe punt

asher
26-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Been saying this for weeks on here that we need Redknapp, so pleased we've done it. He's definitelt the best man for the job right now. I don't think that any supporters will be unhappy with this appointment. Suspect Mr.Defoe could be back in Jan!!!!!

He's a lovely chap, he's a lovely chap, Harry Redknapp, Harry Redknapp, he's a lovely chap!!!

GetSpurredOn
26-10-2008, 11:26 AM
I thought when Ramos signed on we were destined for big things, we had a manager on par with the big four. But Carling cup aside, our performances have been nothing short of inept, our form post cup win was absolutley shocking, and nothing has changed going into the start of this season. I still had confidence that Ramos, Poyet and co could have turned it round, but I'm not sure if that was just blind faith and hope. It may look like the whole affair is a car crash of an event, but give Levy credit for making the decision to try and halt the slump, because frankly despite my hopes, realistically I couldn't see an end to the string of poor performances.

I thought the DOF system was a good system, but since Arnesen and Jol parted ways with Franks defection, our DOF and Manager have never been on the same page, and having them in tandem is key to the setup working, Commolli must take the blame for that as he inherited Arnesen's choice of manager, but when he got his choice in Ramos, things still seemed strained from the outside and Commolli's signings have not been a total success have they. Time to move on and get behind the new manager.

My mate text me late last night to tell me that Commolli and Ramos had gone, only got the message this morning. My thoughts instantly turned to Roberto Mancini as I'd read a newspaper article in the week claiming he had rented a flat in London in advance of tying up a job in the capital, they hinted it was QPR, but I had a sneaking feeling it could be us. I expected to put the tv on seeing us linked with numerous big name managers from accross europe, Rijkaard etc. Seeing us as good as having signed Redknapp, my intial feeling was one of disappointment, but after getting used to the idea and reading comments on here, the thought is growing a bit more attractive. He turned Pompey round when he went there for his second stint and they were staring down the barrell of relegation. He seems to get his teams disciplined, together and organised, and that's what we're missing.the games I've watched recently we've been lacking direction and more importatntly cohesiveness, players don't seem to be able to pass to eachother, they're not on the same wavelength. Redknapp will bring them together as a unit, and at medium sized clubs he has a good record, now comin to one of the league's bigger outfits, he seems to have massive enthusiasm to join us and turn things round from the brief comments I've read, he want's a chance to prove he can be as succesful with a big club as he has elsewhere, many feel its his lack of experience with a big club that has held him back form the England job. He seems to be joining us with genuine excitement, ambition, confidence and desire to succeed, and that can only be a good thing, his mood will be infectious, lifting the whole squad hopefully.

As for assistants, the departure of Poyet and Alvarez tends to suggest that Redknapp has demanded to join on his own terms with his own backroom staff. Maybe that's what we've been missing, one of my few criticisms about Ramos apart from his continued tinkering with the lineup, was he always seemed so quiet almost resigned to the fact that he had to tow the party line given the DOF situation, Rednknapp will make the job his own. I expect announcements over appointments of assistants to be made over the coming days, and historically I'd expect Adams to be joining given he was Harry's current assistant, and from recent stories I've read, Redknapp rates him highly. But along with the potential signing of Adams, and let's be honest our defence needs some guidance, and Adams was a top centre half in a miserley Ar5ena1 defence, but along with him, I expect a former Spur to join to placate the fans, and my money would be on either Redknapp jnr, or maybe the one and only Teddy Sherringham given his time worked with Harry at Pompey and also his SPurs links, he has been vocal about his desire to return to Spurs in a coaching capacity.

Now on to today's game, and loads more conjecture about who Harry will sign first?

octavian
26-10-2008, 11:34 AM
Levy's the author of this sorry mess.He remains an incompetent,jumped -up,obstinate,clever dick.I wish he would fuck off,and stop regarding himself as a Spurs fan,because that's the one thing he most certainly is not.He's sold our four best players in recent years,and with that he exposes himself and his motivation.Only because he owns the shares does he remain at the club,if performance mattered he would have been long gone.

cockyyid
26-10-2008, 11:45 AM
Feel for ramos though,but sadly his style just did'nt work for us, and we don't have the time to wait.
Harry will surely be a success,he can get the best out of any player and we have a good squad of players for him to work with.
Going to the game today in a different mood now,let's hope this will be the start of our season. COYS

The Original Yiddster
26-10-2008, 11:52 AM
I questioned Ramos' credentials to manage Tottenham Hotspur last year.

I argued in particular with The Original Yiddster, who told me Ramos was 'proven quality'.

I feel a small sense of smug self satisfaction. It is a pity it has come at the expense of Tottenham Hotspur.

I wouldnt be too smug ........ Ramos was royally screwed unlike Jol who had the best pair of strikers in Europe and still did nothing. It was like asking Ramos to win the OLympics 100m but having his legs cut off first...

Bonjour
26-10-2008, 12:09 PM
I had a dream last night that Redknapp was appointed our new manager. Slightly weird I thought. Even weirder now I find that he has.

Seriously. That's weirded me out. :-|

supertedley
26-10-2008, 12:35 PM
Actually I will be sorry to see Ramos, and especially Gus Poyet go. Redknapp is hardly a step up in my estimation. Our current problems stem from the fact that the heart was ripped out of the team in the transfer window, it is well known that Ramos likes his summer transfers over with early in the window (as opposed to midnight on the last day), I also believe that he wasnt given the players that he wanted or thought we needed, to replace the ones who left. Once a team gets into this spiral of getting beat on a Saturday, losing confidence so playing badly, so losing again, it can be very difficult to break out of it, it can be done, if they have the quality, (and Ibelieve we do), but it takes TIME. Had Ramos been allowed that time, I always beleived that we would have avoided the drop this season, if nothing else, then we would have been able to build a decent squad for next year. Now, we are back to square one. And if Harry doesnt turn it around in a few months will we sack him too?
This is a bad dream!


How much time did he need???? I'm all for giving the manager time to develope his own style etc but FFS he was proving to be inept very early on last season let alone this one!

JimmyG2
26-10-2008, 01:03 PM
We did this last year and look where we are now. Proof of the pudding and so on.
Good luck Harry but we have made ourselves look very stupid and all our grand hopes and designs have gone out the window.
Strange timing before a crucial game,arn't they all from here on in.
The architect of all our lost hopes,Levy, is still there and the rest of the season is going to be horrible and frustrating to be judged only by our position on the final day.
Sad to lose Poyet but as a decent man there was no way he would stay.
Harry is a pragmatist and will do whatever is needed in terms of signings and tactics. Expect expediency over long term vision but thats what he has been appointed for,but if we do survive then we can blame it all on Ramos and Comolli.
Another sad day for the fans and in the history of Spurs.

mawspurs
26-10-2008, 01:43 PM
I had a dream last night that Redknapp was appointed our new manager. Slightly weird I thought. Even weirder now I find that he has.

Seriously. That's weirded me out. :-|

Spooky that. Eek

guate
26-10-2008, 04:08 PM
Not having turned on the Tv or cranked up internet yesterday I had no idea whatsoever of this bombshell until opening up soccernet.com this morning.
WOW.......WOW.....WOW......WOW....WOW.
Levy has, in one fell swoop, restored my confidence in his position by taking a very ballsy decision which although unfortunate for those involved in the shakeup was very necessary for our club's future.
Levy has also shown he's man enough to accept that his fuck ups were the root cause of all this by bringing the club back to basics and appointing a manager well renown for his communication skills, something sadly lacking since M.J left.
Harry may not be everyone's ideal manager, even bringing along a certain amount of unwanted baggage, but at this moment in time it's his street fighting instincts we so desperately need to get us well off the bottom of the table.
To my knowledge this is the first time Harry has been given the opportunity to manage one of the League's big clubs and, provided he is allowed to call the shots, I see no reason hy he can't take us all the way to the top.........provided he's given that precious commodity which most managers never get at Tottenham, TIME.

QUE VIVA LOS SPURS

PartyBoy
26-10-2008, 04:49 PM
I honestly have to say LEVY has got balls

Well tops marks for observation, and there was me wondering why he was not called Danielle Levy! What a fucking retard I am!!!:shake:

PartyBoy
26-10-2008, 04:54 PM
On a serious note I am very impressed about how we did not hear this through the press, bunch of cnuts at least are not currently trustworthy of their reporting so we should all realise that we need to be dismissive of their sh!t as a means forward. Too many supporters are too easily swayed these days.