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always_spurs
28-11-2006, 04:07 AM
Once again it's here, one of football's greatest derbies. We love it, we fear it, and we always await it with the most enormous anticipation. Quite rightly so, it rarely disappoints in terms of explosiveness and excitement. And who knows? This could very well be Our time. But I'll leave that debate to the posts that are no doubt to follow before Saturday's game. Let us wet our appetites with the history and reasons behind this great clash...

The first meeting between us was a friendly on November 11, 1887, when Arsenal were known as Royal Arsenal. The match was abandoned 15 minutes before it was due to end "owing to darkness" with Spurs leading 2-1. The first League match between the clubs was in the First Division, on December 4, 1909; Arsenal won 1-0.

However, the fierce rivalry between the two teams did not begin until World War I. First, in 1913, Arsenal moved from their South London home of Woolwich to Arsenal Stadium, Highbury, just four miles from White Hart Lane, thus becoming our nearest neighbours and thus beginning a natural local rivalry. But this rivalry escalated in 1919 when the First Division was to be expanded by two teams. 19th-placed Chelsea, who would otherwise have been relegated, were allowed to stay. The final place could have been awarded to Tottenham in 20th-place, or Barnsley, who had finished 3rd in the Second Division, but both missed out. Instead it was decided that Arsenal would be promoted, despite them only finishing 5th in Division Two. It has been frequently alleged that Arsenal chairman Sir Henry Norris used underhand dealings in order to bring this about, although nothing has been proven. Tottenham were promoted back into the top flight after taking the Second Division title the next season, and so the fierce rivalry has continued ever since.

As of April 22, 2006, there have been 151 competitive first-class meetings between the two teams since the first league meeting in 1909, of which Arsenal have won 63 and Tottenham 49. The most goals in one game were scored in the closely contested 5-4 Arsenal victory at White Hart Lane on November 13, 2004 (we won't forget that one in a hurry!). The biggest winning margin was 6-0 to Arsenal on March 6, 1935, although Tottenham have twice won 5-0 (December 25, 1911 and April 4, 1983).

Tottenham's record for goals scored against Arsenal is shared by Billy Minter and Bobby Smith, with nine goals each. Arsenal's record is held by Alan Sunderland, with eight. Arsenal's long-time defender David O'Leary holds the record for most North London derbies played (35), while Gary Mabbutt is our corresponding record-holder, with 31.

And there we have it..........I can't wait.

tommyt
28-11-2006, 03:19 PM
nice post to get the ball rolling. 12.45 kick off doesn't give me much time to get a few beers in before going to the pub. i'll more than likely be the lone Spurs voice with a splattering of goon, manu, liverpool and celtic supporters mocking me......


...Until we win of course.


2-1 Spurs. Dimi and Robbie.

GDG
28-11-2006, 03:27 PM
A good history lesson, and a good primer for the weekend. I have no idea why, but I have a good feeling about this one.

mawspurs
28-11-2006, 03:31 PM
Thanks for that its good to get a bit of history before a game like this.

I have a feeling we might do them this time, we've come so close recently but this time we have a stronger squad. And what a place to get the first away win of the season.

TheChosenOne
28-11-2006, 05:22 PM
We've never been beaten at The Imiigrants

Marty
28-11-2006, 07:04 PM
We've never been beaten at The Imiigrants

Mate, we've never played at the Immigrants.
But after the game you'll be able to say it with your head held high! I've got a very good feeling about this one, especially after seeing Le Arse struggle recently.

shelfsideyido
28-11-2006, 09:30 PM
Well i for one have a bad feeling. Which is good in this case as whenever i have a good feeling, we never take all 3 points. Nice little history lesson there, been looking for a ticket for weeks, can anyone help ? ?

BringBack_leGin
28-11-2006, 10:47 PM
Ahhh i remember the 4-5 so well, with jermain scoring that beautiful goal and there being 9 different scorers (yet another record involving spurs). Was BMJ's first game in full control (the charlton game a week earlier where he handed league debuts to carrick and ziegler was only as caretaker boss). That morning, on the way back home from uni to north london to meet my dad and go to the game i had a near death car crash which involved me somersaulting and totalling my metro on the A1. I came out uninjured, but the dr's and police told me i had no right to be alive. my dad came and found me, he was hysterical (understandably) and didn't want to go to the game, but i made him see sense... and is my memory from that day the near death early morning car crash on the saturday 13th november 2004.... NO! It's taking my usual west stand upper seat having missed the opening exchanges (bloody police needed a statement, and bloody paramedics had to check for internal injuries) to see Naybet scoring his first for the club and the first of the game... and the rest is history. We may have lost, but that game still stands amongst my most treasure for no other reason than it was bloody exciting!

That season we the last time we handed out any proper thrashings to league opponents... the game of Marney vs Everton, battering Aston Villa with fatty Reid scoring from long range, and i believe Defoe scored a hatrick at home against some one (possibly Southampton) but i don't quite remember who! And this team had a Davies, a Reid, a Brown for where there now stands a Lennon, Malbranque, and any number of quality central mids. Surely its about time we battered someone... BRING ON THE GOONS!

COYS!