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Geez
10-02-2010, 08:30 PM
WOLVES 1 - 0 SPURS
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Spurs: Gomes, Kaboul, Dawson, Bassong, Bale, Bentley, Huddlestone, Jenas (Palacios), Kranjcar (Modric), Defoe, Gudjohnsen (Crouch).
Subs: Alnwick, Pavlyuchenko, Corluka, Kyle Walker.

Harry Redknapp makes five changes from the goalless draw against Villa including debuts for both Younes Kaboul and Eidur Gudjohnsen.

Vedran Corluka and Peter Crouch go to the bench. Sebastien Bassong, Jermaine Jenas and Niko Kranjcar also return for Ledley King, Wilson Palacios and Luka Modric.

Wolves: Hahnemann, Zubar, Craddock, Berra, Ward, Henry, Foley, Adlene Guedioura, David Jones, Jarvis, Doyle.
Subs: Hennessey, Vokes, Elokobi, Ebanks-Blake, Milijas, Mujangi Bia, Mancienne.

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DiscoD1882
10-02-2010, 08:32 PM
ohhhhhhhhhh.................Myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...... ...............God!

avonspurs
10-02-2010, 08:35 PM
Well, well, well..... Not a side I was expecting. Hopefully jot one that Mick McCarthywas expecting either and enough surprises there to give us the advantage

I reckon 0-2. And arsenal scum win snd we're back in 4th!!

ricardo_archibald
10-02-2010, 08:36 PM
MMm interesting, not sure about the line up, but maybe some wholesale changes will be good. We need to be clinical tonight, dominate possession and win at all costs!

COYS!

Edgarsglasses
10-02-2010, 08:38 PM
Intresting eh - i'm for one glad to see things mixed up COYS!!!

Jaispurs
10-02-2010, 08:40 PM
Wtf ?

Corky
10-02-2010, 08:46 PM
Jenas?

lyndonh
10-02-2010, 08:46 PM
Good line up glad to see some changes we should be good enough to win tonight COYS!

pistolP
10-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Very interesting, not bad but would have liked to have Palacios in the side. Hopefully good enough to get us three points tonight.

tinryspurs
10-02-2010, 08:50 PM
can anyone pm me a link please....

Norgie
10-02-2010, 08:51 PM
Not an expected team but strong and what a bench, when you can have mods, palacios, pav, crouch and charlie on the bench and still have a strong team out then you know you have a good squad.

sak11
10-02-2010, 08:53 PM
can anyone pm me a link please....

me too please!!

Timberwolf
10-02-2010, 08:55 PM
could anyone with a decent stream pm me a link too? :)

the sopcast channel seems to be offline and my other stream got cancelled

Spurs_Bear
10-02-2010, 08:56 PM
The only bit that confused me at first was the Kaboul for Corluka, but this could be because we may look to switch to a back 3 if Wolves prove difficult to break down??

Not sure we can be called predictable tonight!

AirTito
10-02-2010, 08:56 PM
Really? Jenas?

steve8
10-02-2010, 08:57 PM
me too please!!

And me?!

KenilworthSpur
10-02-2010, 08:57 PM
Anyone get a stream anywhere?

DOX
10-02-2010, 09:00 PM
And me???

Doonsbury
10-02-2010, 09:04 PM
Try this http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/london/hi/front_page/newsid_8273000/8273157.stm

sebo_sek
10-02-2010, 09:13 PM
Well that's just lovely isn't it

spursbhoy67
10-02-2010, 09:13 PM
1-0 Wolves and it has been coming.

Boz69
10-02-2010, 09:16 PM
sort it out

Spurs71
10-02-2010, 09:16 PM
jesus come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

sebo_sek
10-02-2010, 09:17 PM
Sounds like we're in real need of Palacios. jenas is simply not up to it.

mpickard2087
10-02-2010, 09:17 PM
dawson v. lucky there not to concede a pen!

spursbhoy67
10-02-2010, 09:19 PM
Cross not dealt with and neither Huddlestone or Jenas track their runner who calmly slots home.

davethebear
10-02-2010, 09:27 PM
same here mine just died on me!! :bang:

sebo_sek
10-02-2010, 09:35 PM
We look like we can't be tossed - AGAIN.

Wolves will not roll over and die.

Atrocious.

topspur
10-02-2010, 09:36 PM
But the affirmative flowing wet one is working ok now.

StokeSpur
10-02-2010, 09:36 PM
unbelievable team selection for such an important game! it beggers belief that Harry would think to play Jenas, Eidur and Kaboul in this one, he must have thought it was going to be an easy game.

Come the fuck on Jenas sort yr shit self out and pass to a white shirt!!!!

Floyd
10-02-2010, 09:37 PM
We are playing poor .
Not the team to put out for the fight for the top four .
Just two shots on target .
Looks like Harry wants to shoot himself in the foot.
So very FRUSTRATING !!!! Shit

sebo_sek
10-02-2010, 09:38 PM
Oh, and that WAS a penalty - clear as day.

teejay
10-02-2010, 09:39 PM
Jenas off, havent seen shittier performance from anybody in a while

full-frontal-nudity
10-02-2010, 09:40 PM
Jenas eats shit.

You're what you eat.

2bearis2do
10-02-2010, 09:43 PM
The cl dream...they think it's all over...

2bearis2do
10-02-2010, 09:44 PM
unbelievable team selection for such an important game! it beggers belief that Harry would think to play Jenas, Eidur and Kaboul in this one, he must have thought it was going to be an easy game.

Come the fuck on Jenas sort yr shit self out and pass to a white shirt!!!!

JJ has been so poor for so long it beggars belief he gets a game

bspurs
10-02-2010, 09:44 PM
How many more games you would need to see that Jenas is shit, Harry ?

spursbhoy67
10-02-2010, 09:46 PM
Team selection was poor and the performance so far has been poor too. Can only improve in the second half. Harry needs to give the players a rollicking, maybe make a change - Wilson for Jenas perhaps - and get out with three points if possible.

lenfoeing
10-02-2010, 09:47 PM
Yes have to agree.....was shocking team selection for such an important game. The 4th dream is over as of tonight if we don't win. Not trying to be down but just feel now that Liverpool will kick on and Man city will be pretty strong......never mind. All we have to hope for nowis a cup run

aylespur
10-02-2010, 09:49 PM
:cry: Tonights performance, and indeed quite a few of our recent ones, is showing us how far we are away from clinching that fourth place. Team of bottlers I'm afraid!

Floyd
10-02-2010, 09:51 PM
Jenas off !!!
Gr8

Ryan
10-02-2010, 09:56 PM
The cl dream...they think it's all over...

Liverpool fans were probably thinking that about a month ago.

Ryan
10-02-2010, 09:57 PM
Jenas eats shit.

You're what you eat.


Genius........

guernsey_spurs
10-02-2010, 09:57 PM
anyone find a stream? pm please

JuanRebelde
10-02-2010, 09:58 PM
Embarrassing up to now - starting with 'Arry and his selection.

Boz69
10-02-2010, 10:01 PM
Jenas eats shit.

You're what you eat.
:rofl:

Norse
10-02-2010, 10:03 PM
I am already thinking about next season. I think on of the reasons we have lost the lead in games is that we haven't had an extra defensive midfielder to put in. Hudd tires and Jenas doesn't cut it.

People here are complaing about team selection, but a right back change doesn't usually mean much and trying Gudjonsen isn't a big deal. Krancjar has played well in his position before.

What's more, teams like M Utd can rotate between a Hargreaves (injured), a Fletcher, a Scholes, a Carrick, a Park etc. and still win. We lose when Palacios is missing.

Essentially we need
a) two more central midfielders that can both attack and defend.
b) some more experience as a team.

GlennHoddle
10-02-2010, 10:03 PM
Well Harry 30 mins to sort things out.

To be out thought by the Mighty Tactician that is Mick McCarthy!! once is bad enough, but twice is criminal and unforgivable

2bearis2do
10-02-2010, 10:08 PM
Bring on pav!
I don't care anymore, all the other trialists have failed!

pistolP
10-02-2010, 10:08 PM
I am already thinking about next season. I think on of the reasons we have lost the lead in games is that we haven't had an extra defensive midfielder to put in. Hudd tires and Jenas doesn't cut it.

People here are complaing about team selection, but a right back change doesn't usually mean much and trying Gudjonsen isn't a big deal. Krancjar has played well in his position before.

What's more, teams like M Utd can rotate between a Hargreaves (injured), a Fletcher, a Scholes, a Carrick, a Park etc. and still win. We lose when Palacios is missing.

Essentially we need
a) two more central midfielders that can both attack and defend.
b) some more experience as a team.

Agree and think we need better strikers as well.

kyrre
10-02-2010, 10:11 PM
can someone tell me the channel number for Yes on sopcast (running on mac...)

Spurs71
10-02-2010, 10:11 PM
Come on FFS.

Norse
10-02-2010, 10:13 PM
Agree and think we need better strikers as well.

I know, though world class strikers like Rooney, Zlatan, Torres, Drogba and the like don't come cheap.

pistolP
10-02-2010, 10:16 PM
I know, though world class strikers like Rooney, Zlatan, Torres, Drogba and the like don't come cheap.

True, true but if you do not buy ticket, you do not win lottery.

mpickard2087
10-02-2010, 10:16 PM
why swap like for like? how about taking off a defender or midfielder 'arry? we are losing for ffs!

GlennHoddle
10-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Kaboul at right back?
Think we were a bit hasty getting rid of Hutton on loan, square pegs and round holes - but ah well once we help out another EPL team!

GlennHoddle
10-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Scum one up

rupsmith
10-02-2010, 10:18 PM
Wolves deserve this - Kevin Doyle is playing like Berbatov.

Jenas was vey very poor. Defoe has totally lost form. Not a lot of positives today.

Dont see us scoring today

Norse
10-02-2010, 10:20 PM
True, true but if you do not buy ticket, you do not win lottery.

What can we afford? A few talented youngsters? There aren't that many strikers that are clearly better then the ones we have? Or am I just not well enough informed?

2bearis2do
10-02-2010, 10:22 PM
I think the conclusion is, we're not very good without Lennon.
We shot our load far too early this season by winning our first four games. Since then our form has been mid-table at best.
Last 12 games w4 d6 l2
We're averaging 1.5 points a game, that's not going to win us anything.

GlennHoddle
10-02-2010, 10:23 PM
Wolves deserve this - Kevin Doyle is playing like Berbatov.

Jenas was vey very poor. Defoe has totally lost form. Not a lot of positives today.

Dont see us scoring today

JD lost form and should have been dropped 6/7 games ago

18Klinsmann
10-02-2010, 10:24 PM
If Wolves do a double over us we will have to forget about CL football for a while. Very embarrassing. 7th place here we come. I'm not even sure if I hope for a place in the Europa League.
Who said fickle?!?
Still can't believe the team selection today. Arry is usually Mr. conservative, and suddenly he throws on 5 changes. Odd. After the three changes we're looking like a team that might have started if we meant it.

GlennHoddle
10-02-2010, 10:24 PM
What can we afford? A few talented youngsters? There aren't that many strikers that are clearly better then the ones we have? Or am I just not well enough informed?

The scum seemed to have done ok with just Arshavin up top.

We have 4 supposedly top class strikers and can't score for tosh

JuanRebelde
10-02-2010, 10:25 PM
A few pompey fans I know always used to say their team used to fall away after christmas under Redknapp when they started well. I now know the feeling. What a pityful performance - gutless and toothless (again).

Norse
10-02-2010, 10:28 PM
If Wolves do a double over us we will have to forget about CL football for a while. Very embarrassing. 7th place here we come. I'm not even sure if I hope for a place in the Europa League.
Who said fickle?!?
Still can't believe the team selection today. Arry is usually Mr. conservative, and suddenly he throws on 5 changes. Odd. After the three changes we're looking like a team that might have started if we meant it.

He wants to win the FA cup again, I suppose.

2bearis2do
10-02-2010, 10:28 PM
82nd minute BBC 2126: Spurs have not had a single shot on target in the second half. They are still 1-0 down at Wolves and that's a fairly damning indictment of their top four hopes.

Norse
10-02-2010, 10:29 PM
A few pompey fans I know always used to say their team used to fall away after christmas under Redknapp when they started well. I now know the feeling. What a pityful performance - gutless and toothless (again).

A sympton of a squad that's lacking in depth in crucial areas?

rupsmith
10-02-2010, 10:29 PM
What a poor poor performance really? Its not about effort - we just seem to have lost total confidence. Wolves playing like bloody Real Madrid.

2126: Spurs have not had a single shot on target in the second half. They are still 1-0 down at Wolves and that's a fairly damning indictment of their top four hopes.

Season over in my view - i dont think we wil recover from this one. Not enough men in the dressing room

2bearis2do
10-02-2010, 10:30 PM
Have we scored a last minute goal that has earned us any points this season? Brum early on, but bar that..nowt.

Geez
10-02-2010, 10:31 PM
Stevo on BBC

2126: Spurs have not had a single shot on target in the second half. They are still 1-0 down at Wolves and that's a fairly damning indictment of their top four hopes.

18Klinsmann
10-02-2010, 10:34 PM
He wants to win the FA cup again, I suppose.

I'll bet he does, and so do I, but the priority has to be the league. It's not like we have a congested fixture list this season.
Must be vertigo. Too high up for his liking. 7th or 8th and a decent cup run, that's us. Sickening.

JuanRebelde
10-02-2010, 10:34 PM
A sympton of a squad that's lacking in depth in crucial areas?

Probably but you could also add team selection and tactical weakness as well especially since the new year.

Norse
10-02-2010, 10:34 PM
Another yellow for our warrior. Won't he be suspended for a game soon? :bang:

vuzp
10-02-2010, 10:36 PM
so so poor this it is embarassing really

striebs
10-02-2010, 10:36 PM
About time a club dropped points in the last minute against us .

lenfoeing
10-02-2010, 10:36 PM
this is just so frustrating.........what has happened to this team. I feel like such a turncoat but harry just does not seem to have the tactics to change a game!

Norse
10-02-2010, 10:39 PM
this is just so frustrating.........what has happened to this team. I feel like such a turncoat but harry just does not seem to have the tactics to change a game!

I've heard others make the same comment. It's like Jol again. Still, I'll take it after last season...

Spurs71
10-02-2010, 10:39 PM
Just fcuked my whole day up.

ricardo_archibald
10-02-2010, 10:40 PM
McCarthy sussed us out in both games, we are too predictable at the moment, the players worked hard but we lacked creativity once again. Bale beats players but his final ball tonight rarely met a Spurs player. It was a similar story with Bentley on the right, his final ball was not great. Modric, Kranjcar and Defoe were very quiet.

Very, very, very frustrating games and more dropped points.

2bearis2do
10-02-2010, 10:41 PM
The Barry & Harry Interview -

¨Yeah well Barry, you know, it was just one of those games, I fort we did Ok, you know, I tried sumthink different, the boys have played a lot of games recently, but yeah, I dunno why it didn't work for us. But we'll still be there at the end of the season, you know. Wolves dun really good Barry, you know, Micks doing a great job there, I fink they'll be very strong next year, maybe even challenge for europe, Yeah you know, I'm disappointed, yeah, we all are, but we've only lost one in 9 until today, so we're all right. We've got the FACup on Saturday and I've said all season that's the trofee we really want this year, but you know, it's difficult, Bolton away, but we'll be fine¨

Barry: Thanks Harry, and we've time for just one more question: What do you say to those who think you're a better manager when you're scrapping for relegation, as that is what you're used to?

Harry? Harry? Don't walk away from me Harry.

walworthyid
10-02-2010, 10:41 PM
Absolutely bloody shocking! We have become so one dimensional it is untrue! Teams have worked us out and because we don't have a central goal threat from midfield we either go long or go wide. Things will improve when azza comes back, but some major thinking needs to be done!

Geez
10-02-2010, 10:42 PM
At this rate we'll be scrambling to be in the Europa Cup next season :roll:

I predicted 7th before the season started and even that seems under threat now :cry:

Spurs71
10-02-2010, 10:42 PM
What a jokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

If**kinglovespurs
10-02-2010, 10:42 PM
Well a combination of poor attitude and tactics has cost us this one. Why do we have to keep hoofing the ball up in the final 3rd for the goalkeeper to make an easy catch. Whatever happened to keeping the ball on the deck and passing it to open teams up? We made it far too easy for them.

I remember when "Arry first came to the club he said we're a team full of good players but with a soft underbelly. So whats changed???

SpurSince1961
10-02-2010, 10:43 PM
Kaboul crap, Jenas crap, Huddlestone crap, defoe nothing, crouch nothing, modric nothing,

We just have to hope that Lennon comes back and inspires us to win after win after win and all the other teams for the champions league drop points. We still have a chance but the chance is running out!

berbie38
10-02-2010, 10:43 PM
Im not one to slag the team off usually but i watched the last hour of that game and we did not create one! goalscoring chance. diabolical!! 4th place gone!!

rupsmith
10-02-2010, 10:44 PM
I just dont understand it - no one seems to be able to control the ball. Is it beacuse no one can handle pressure? Seems indicative that no one can take a penalty and score.

Well played Wolves - they deserved it and played good football. We were bloody poor. Only Bale came out with some credit.

Jenas is im afraid not good enough for the premier league - the way he struggled against leeds was poof enough. A Wolves player at best - possibly in the Chmpionship. Left the player who scored. Didnt close the cross against Brum.

Very very frustrating - I think at least 4/5 players have to be shown the door.

lenfoeing
10-02-2010, 10:44 PM
I don't know whether it is a mental thing with the team but we just seem incapable of winning when it matters. This is

I also can't help but feel that we missed a few tricks in Jan transfer window...I feel we are weaker and do not have a better squad going into the final part of the season.

The problem is that i feel this was our season to make the 4th spot. I don't want to be gloomy but i cannot see Arsenal, Liverpool and man city being as inconsistant next season.....but who knows.....its football!

Floyd
10-02-2010, 10:45 PM
He wants to win the FA cup again, I suppose.

We can't even beat Wolves ....

Maybe if we play Kidderminster Harriers (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team?id=319) in the FA Final

ashley
10-02-2010, 10:45 PM
was always worried we would do what Villa did last season.When the going got tough we became jelly.Just cant believe whats happening.

JuanRebelde
10-02-2010, 10:45 PM
Reading all these comments it looks like the Honeymoon is well and truly over and Mr Redknapp you have been found out.

InJolWeTrust
10-02-2010, 10:47 PM
The long ball to crouch, the Huddlestone shot from outside the box, the stepover from Bentley before attempting to cross from somewhere near the half-way line. This is getting to be all too familiar and if I can see what is coming every time we attack I am sure Wolves can. Too predictable. And I could understand Kaboul playing defensively and being slow to get up the pitch being sensible with Lennon playing, but Bentley isn't exactly a speed merchant. Really annoyed with this.

sebo_sek
10-02-2010, 10:49 PM
well a double against wolves was to be expected :0)

Oh... We are on the receiving end of that :(

THAT WAS EMBARRASSING AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

Apart from Bale no one worth wasting the time to post.

Abysmal, atrocious, bollox, crap, disasterous, embarrassing, farcical, god awful, horrific, incredible, joke, killing me, ludicrous, masochistic to watch, nasty, old same old, pittiful, (can't think of Q), rusty, SHIT, typical Spurs, unbelievably bad, very disappointing, woeful, Xcremental, yawn,:sleepy:
That's the A-Z of how bad were - and I didn't use a dictionary :grin:

TheDutchMaster
10-02-2010, 10:50 PM
Fake team!

kernowspur
10-02-2010, 10:51 PM
Strikers are not good enough. Complete lack of creativity and I will say it again, Huddlestone is not the answer, he is not good enough for a top 4 team. Too easily blocked out of games. Modric is not back to his form before injury and it means that we have no gebuine top class creativity at present.
Finally, Harry is not the manager to take us further forward. Far too many games like today when his limitations are exposed.

matt5768
10-02-2010, 10:52 PM
gotta say, after seeing the majority of our lest 5 or 6 games, that was our worst by a long shot!! at least before we could blame luck or great goalkeepong but tonight was complete shat!!

why he started jenas i will never know...bale was excellent again and doesnt deserve to play alongside most of these players at the moment!!

not sure where we go from here...but im guessing if we happened to win our next 3 games or do a liverpool it might not look so bad....at least they lost tonight!

Kingstheman
10-02-2010, 10:52 PM
I really can NOT believe how much we miss Lennon.

davidmatzdorf
10-02-2010, 10:53 PM
I've been saying for weeks that there's every chance that we could still get a CL place, but now I think it's going to be very difficult.

That was just excruciating. At least in our previous several matches, we made 20+ chances but couldn't score. Tonight, a badly chosen team played disjointedly, failed to close down, failed to keep possession, made about 2 half-chances in the entire second half and basically created abasolutely fuuk-all. We defended OK, I guess, but against a team that spent 60 minutes protecting a 1-0 lead at home.

Nevertheless: Wolves looked the better side all over the pitch. Harry wants some of the blame for that, but the players want the rest. We just looked clueless this evening. Dreadful, incompetent, disorganised and sluggish.

One more point: if ever there was a match that was howling for Pavlyuchenko, this was it. We couldn't thread the ball through their defence, on at least 15 occasions. Pav is good at scoring from angles and through crowds. I like Crouch, but why on earth did Harry put on Crouch this evening instead of Pav? Just ... bad judgment. Habit.

mart_loves_me
10-02-2010, 10:53 PM
This defeat doesn't even surprise/bother me anymore....gave up on 4th after the Liverpool game. We won't get CL, we might not even get top 6.

Judging by Redknapp's team selection today he's going all out for the FA Cup, and I can sort of see why. However, that shoudn't condone us putting in a half-arsed, useless performance in tonight against, lets face it, a poor team. Jenas is playing like a pub player, im not even a Jenas hater but he needs to leave the club for his sake as well as ours. He's gone stale the last couple of years.

We'll beat Bolton on Sunday, then get drawn away to Chelsea in the cup. I can just see it...

octavian
10-02-2010, 10:54 PM
The never content with mediocrity Daniel Levy can show us his ambition for Spurs and get "the special one" in the summer.I mean it's only 9 years at the helm and never anywhere near wining the league.Levy and Lewis can fuck off anytime they like as far as I am concerned or put on the Chirpy outfit,wankers both of 'em

browndchl
10-02-2010, 10:56 PM
One of our worst performances of the season. I won't critisize individual players but why oh why did Harry make so many changes? The team against Villa did really well and created lots of chances. We just couldn't get past a stubborn defence that day. Harry should have only made necessary enforced changes i.e. King.

The game was 100mph and Wolves were biting in the tackle for the whole 90 mins. I can only remember 2 on target shots from the 1st half and fuck all in the 2nd!! We ain't gonna score if we don't shoot at the target!

That's it now, I'm not putting my hard earned cash on my beloved Spurs anymore this season.

JimmyG2
10-02-2010, 10:57 PM
I'm giving it 24hrs, or at least 12, before posting.
Still only 1pt. behind Liverpool.
Not that we would deserve it but things might just get even more confused and complicated before the end.

sebo_sek
10-02-2010, 10:57 PM
The never content with mediocrity Daniel Levy can show us his ambition for Spurs and get "the special one" in the summer.I mean it's only 9 years at the helm and never anywhere near wining the league.Levy and Lewis can fuck off anytime they like as far as I am concerned or put on the Chirpy outfit,wankers both of 'em
If you mean Mourinho you're more deluded than you think.

Leave Inter to join Spurs :rofl:

sebo_sek
10-02-2010, 10:59 PM
I'm giving it 24hrs, or at least 12, before posting.
Still only 1pt. behind Liverpool.
Not that we would deserve it but things might just get even more confused and complicated before the end.
Obviously you're forgetting the one game Villa have and two that City have.

It's over
There's always next year.

glenda
10-02-2010, 10:59 PM
Thats it im fucked at work tomorrow Gooner pricks,breaking balls at fucking day....cant believe we lost...

biggtravers
10-02-2010, 10:59 PM
What an absolute joke. Top four my arse! We'll be lucky to get a Europa spot. Utterly, utterly pathetic.

rupsmith
10-02-2010, 11:01 PM
Obviously you're forgetting the one game Villa have and two that City have.

It's over
There's always next year.

I know - it is so disappointing. No Europe either. Wish Pav would get a run. Man we are not strong mentally - very very poor

Ryan
10-02-2010, 11:01 PM
Now i remember why i didnt mind when we sold Defoe.

shivermechivers
10-02-2010, 11:02 PM
Top three still to aim for 'arry?
Now it's time for the team to shut the fcuk up about CL & prove themselves.
Squad full of players on loan..... what a load of crap.

rupsmith
10-02-2010, 11:02 PM
Now i remember why i didnt mind when we sold Defoe.

I agree - he was truely aweful today. Could not control the ball at all

battspur
10-02-2010, 11:04 PM
Jenas is so bad. How was he allowed to play from the start (OR AT ALL)
Hudlelston cant play from home & WHY CANT WE SE THE CROATS PLAY TOGETHER !
No midfield & long balls from Dawson all night !!!!
Why cant we keep the ball on the ground !!!
We have all the players we need (except Jenas, but all in the wrong order !
No drive within the team at all !
Another one down to Harry

pistolP
10-02-2010, 11:05 PM
Too many negative comments tonight, Harry is our hero. Your boys and girls of all ages, if you do not like it, go and support another. I am out of here. I have broad shoulder, i can take it.

StokeSpur
10-02-2010, 11:05 PM
It seems the Harry love in'ners have left the building.

What a stupid, amateurish mistake Harry made putting that team out for this game.

We really needed to win this to put us back on the right foot, why on earth play Jenas (wank), Eidur (not up with our pace) and Kaboul (who wasnt too bad tbh).. Modric on the bench FFS!!

When Harry came we had a good squad, he sorted em out and we did ok. The start of the season saw us score sumat like 8 or 9 in the 1st 3 games and Defoe/keane looked really sharp.

Since then he has systematically fucked our squad, and the way we play, by signing Crouch, he has, IMO, treated Pav terribly who had a really good first season for us considering he has no rest from his old clubs season, the language and getting used to the Prem.

We have bought half of Portsmouth and given better players away than we have got, I'd have O'Hara over Jenas any day of the week, Eidur shouldnt be playing yet, he needs fitness and time to adapt to how we play (win lots of headers) and weve loaned out a perfectly good RB in Hutton to replaced him with Kaboul, we have one good keeper and 2 crocked CB's.

Wolves out thought us and out fought us tonight, they played 5 in the middle and his tactics worked, where were our tactics?????

I am getting quite worried at where we'll end up under Harry.

Cant believe Modric was on the bench, the best player we have. I guess he'll be off in the summer and we'll end up with some fkr from Pompy.

Well pissed off!

Breezer
10-02-2010, 11:05 PM
We're just a small team in London playing second fiddle to Arsenal for as long as we live!

Harry has lost the plot! Tactically woeful! Does he honestly think he can get away with dropping Palacios, Modric and starting Eidur in an away game? By bringing on Palacios at half time just showed he got it wrong! He probably would have wanted to take off Eidur aswell but didnt! The top teams do not drop there best players, especially when the only rock we have in the middle is replaced by JERMAINE PENAS!!

pistolP
10-02-2010, 11:07 PM
Support your team. I think we can still finish 2nd in the league this season.

DiscoD1882
10-02-2010, 11:07 PM
No comment

2dareis2do
10-02-2010, 11:09 PM
Sunday, 14 February 2010
The FA Cup
<!--Fixture ID: 3245016--> Bolton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bolton_wanderers/default.stm) v Tottenham (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/default.stm), R5, 13:30

Hope we can win it this year and judging by the team selection and performance or lack of on the pitch today, so does Harry.

Would love to win the FA Cup as a Spur's fan and applaud Harry's decison to rotate/rest players away at Wolves.

Still could have won the game though if we had taken the chances we did create. Unlucky.

Kingstheman
10-02-2010, 11:09 PM
We're just a small team in London playing second fiddle to Arsenal for as long as we live!


I hate the realisation that I started to follow football in 1991 - only to watch it come to this. That your position is cemented ad infinitum...

Breezer
10-02-2010, 11:10 PM
Too many negative comments tonight, Harry is our hero. Your boys and girls of all ages, if you do not like it, go and support another. I am out of here. I have broad shoulder, i can take it.

Put a sock in it!

SEANSPURS1975
10-02-2010, 11:10 PM
Put a date in your diaries:
10th Feb 2010- The day the dream died.

mart_loves_me
10-02-2010, 11:11 PM
Support your team. I think we can still finish 2nd in the league this season.

Sarcasm or misguided delusion...not sure which to think

shivermechivers
10-02-2010, 11:12 PM
Shit! I've just realised Mick McCarthy got 6 pionts off us!!!

Kingstheman
10-02-2010, 11:13 PM
Shit! I've just realised Mick McCarthy got 6 pionts off us!!!

That towering football intellect, that he is.

Floyd
10-02-2010, 11:15 PM
Support your team. I think we can still finish 2nd in the league this season.

Spurs I love ...
Finish 2nd.......:rofl:
Harry.......:rofl:

UncleBuck
10-02-2010, 11:15 PM
The last 6 league games have resulted in 6 points, we have scored 3 goals in this period.

Therein lies our problem, we might be creating 30 chances a game (unlike tonight which was complete garbage) but our highly rated strike force and attacking midfield are not scoring goals.

No goals = mid table.

Three way fight now between us, Villa and Brum in trying to make 6th spot.

I just can't understand WP not starting, this was the type of game we bought him for in the first place......

topspur
10-02-2010, 11:19 PM
I hate the realisation that I started to follow football in 1991 - only to watch it come to this. That your position is cemented ad infinitum...

1991... ? I've been at it since 1969... I suppose I did get to see the Keith Burkinshaw teams and a third place in the league! But, otherwise, not a lot has changed!

pistolP
10-02-2010, 11:22 PM
The Barry & Harry Interview -

¨Yeah well Barry, you know, it was just one of those games, I fort we did Ok, you know, I tried sumthink different, the boys have played a lot of games recently, but yeah, I dunno why it didn't work for us. But we'll still be there at the end of the season, you know. Wolves dun really good Barry, you know, Micks doing a great job there, I fink they'll be very strong next year, maybe even challenge for europe, Yeah you know, I'm disappointed, yeah, we all are, but we've only lost one in 9 until today, so we're all right. We've got the FACup on Saturday and I've said all season that's the trofee we really want this year, but you know, it's difficult, Bolton away, but we'll be fine¨

Barry: Thanks Harry, and we've time for just one more question: What do you say to those who think you're a better manager when you're scrapping for relegation, as that is what you're used to?

Harry? Harry? Don't walk away from me Harry.

Classic, i like it

JuanRebelde
10-02-2010, 11:27 PM
Darren Bent's just twittered that his Missus would have picked a better team than Redknapp tonight.....

Kingstheman
10-02-2010, 11:28 PM
1991... ? I've been at it since 1969... I suppose I did get to see the Keith Burkinshaw teams and a third place in the league! But, otherwise, not a lot has changed!

I think there was a little more variety back then based on who won what.

Now everything is fixed.

2dareis2do
10-02-2010, 11:28 PM
Now i remember why i didnt mind when we sold Defoe.

Yeah, especially after he scored that hatrick at Elland Road.

1882andallthat
10-02-2010, 11:29 PM
Villa and Liverpool two of our rivals for 4th spot drop points and we fail to capitalize....... does that sound familier?......Just how many times and chances do we need to capitalize on our rivals misfortunes ??????

I thought Groundhog Day was February the 2nd!!! Are we a football team or a bloody charity?.....Oh how could I forget Charity begins and ends in a Spurs shirt!!!!

AJ
10-02-2010, 11:31 PM
One of the worst performances in recent years. If we lost to them at home, why take unnecessary chances with heavy rotation? I'll tell you: Harry's main objective is clearly in the FA Cup. He seems to have given up on finishing in the top four. Well, quite rightly so, if you consider our recent form... I just hope he pulls it off and we beat Bolton on Sunday. But considering that we've only managed to beat Fulham (who barely had enough men available for the starting XI) and Leeds without Lennon, I'm not feeling too confident.

That was the first Wolves double over us in nearly half a century.

The most annoying thing in all this is that this season would've been perfect for launching a serious push into the top four or even the title. All the top teams have struggled to some degree. If we hadn't dropped points against Stoke, Wolves and Hull, we would actually be four points from the top and two ahead of Arsenal. But softness, arrogance and lack of motivation have indeed cost us dearly.

Breezer
10-02-2010, 11:41 PM
Yeah, especially after he scored that hatrick at Elland Road.


What.. against league 1 opposition?

Kingstheman
10-02-2010, 11:46 PM
I'll tell you: Harry's main objective is clearly in the FA Cup. He seems to have given up on finishing in the top four.


Why, oh why is he putting our eggs into a single basket.... I must admit, I have thought similarly to this.

keano89
10-02-2010, 11:49 PM
It was great Redknapps strategy. In April weve got difficult games and Harry said that we must lose with Wolves. So in April Wenger and Ferguson will slight us. And then we win and Champions League will be in WHL. COYS

TheDutchMaster
10-02-2010, 11:57 PM
What are some of you on about?

No european games!
No carling cup games!
1 point off CL spot.. not that were gonna get it! and
12 games to go! How can the FA cup be Harrys priority?

He tried to be smart and his decisions back fired! I honestly cant believe he left Palacios out.. our only rock and presence in midfield, this was a typical game for him! Doggish midfield battles, away at relegation fighting teams scrapping for points! You dont see any of the big teams leave there best players out unless there injured or carrying knocks!

smudger
10-02-2010, 11:57 PM
What.. against league 1 opposition?


4 against wigan or the 3 against hull :shrug:

steffenfreundlovesme
10-02-2010, 11:57 PM
i think the whole team is running out of ideas/steam/momentum/morale because they're finding it so hard to break the opposition down without lennon on the pitch. our season has gone rapidly downhill since he got injured and we've watched the team slowly grind to a halt. personally i'm convinced we would have the extra points needed to keep us in a champions league spot if he had been fit the last couple of months. He stretches the game and completely changes the way we play and the way other teams line up against us. Without him in the team we are very predictable, the opposition can sit back and mark crouch and defoe out the game. I presume Harry recognises this but we don't have another lennon and we couldn't afford to buy someone similar. what we have resorted to in his absence is not particularly pretty or effective and its only because other teams have been equally disapointing that we still have a glimmer of hope. If Lennon is back for Wigan and hits the ground running then we could start playing the football we were in the first 10-15 games of the season and miraculously steal fourth. Maybe that is just the last bit of hope speaking but there is almost a third of the season remaining, if we could regain some momentum you never know. We were as good earlier in the season as we were poor tonight. In fact i would say tonight was the worst of only a handful of poor performances this season it's just gutting because Liverpool, Villa and City really aren't that good so the chance was (maybe still is) there this season. chin up though

COYS

Jonesey
11-02-2010, 12:00 AM
Me too - his control has always been average at best and he's always been easy to defend against as he rarely runs at players/takes them on in order to create a shooting opportunity.

I feared this would happen when we re-bought him, just as I feared we would become a one-dimensional long-ball team when we bought Crouch.

Striker-wise now we don't even have Keane - although he was off-form and clearly unhappy with us before going to Celtic - and Harry won't play Pav, who's probably low on confidence anyway.

Which leaves Eidur, who is a very similar player to Keane except not as fit.

Jesus we do it to ourselves don't we? ALWAYS.

If I was Levy I would be absolutely furious tonight. If I didn't live in Australia and had paid to watch that drivel I'd be even worse.

Breezer
11-02-2010, 12:01 AM
4 against wigan or the 3 against hull :shrug:

Leeds, Hull, Wigan all bottom of the league Junk! How many has Defoe scored against the top 4? In any fucking season?

SimonSpur
11-02-2010, 12:11 AM
Yeah, there's no way teams like Arsenal, Liverpool or Villa would want a striker who has already scored 20 goals this season (let alone the three he's scored for England - two against Holland good enough for you?).

tvspur
11-02-2010, 12:11 AM
I'm sick of this. There is no doubt now that we have to play our STRONGEST team from the start for EVERY game; we don't have the depth nor quality to do anything else. For example, to leave out "Mad Dog" Palacios in favour of Jenas is criminal. Secondly, how is it we found a starting place for Gudjohnson when on Saturday there was no-one worthy of being taken off.

We have now contributed 25% of the premiership points for a crummy team like Wolves. We should be ashamed.

TonyK
11-02-2010, 12:18 AM
I was born in 74 in Belfast and have supported the mighty Spurs for as long as I can remember thanks to my late father. But I have to admit - wha the hell is the craic with Jermain Jenas? He has been below average for about 6 seasons now and has managed to still be picked by 4 managers. Am I missing something? He needs to go - tonight should be his last.

YidLee King
11-02-2010, 12:39 AM
I hope so. I never want to see jenas in a spurs shirt again.

Boaman
11-02-2010, 12:59 AM
disappointing, big games bring out the worst in us

spurs_viola
11-02-2010, 01:00 AM
The Barry & Harry Interview -

¨Yeah well Barry, you know, it was just one of those games, I fort we did Ok, you know, I tried sumthink different, the boys have played a lot of games recently, but yeah, I dunno why it didn't work for us. But we'll still be there at the end of the season, you know. Wolves dun really good Barry, you know, Micks doing a great job there, I fink they'll be very strong next year, maybe even challenge for europe, Yeah you know, I'm disappointed, yeah, we all are, but we've only lost one in 9 until today, so we're all right. We've got the FACup on Saturday and I've said all season that's the trofee we really want this year, but you know, it's difficult, Bolton away, but we'll be fine¨

Barry: Thanks Harry, and we've time for just one more question: What do you say to those who think you're a better manager when you're scrapping for relegation, as that is what you're used to?

Harry? Harry? Don't walk away from me Harry.

Uncannily accurate...Quite a few people suspected after the 9-10m purchase of Crouch that Harry was indeed a manager who may be good enough to scrape into the top 6-7, but not to guide the team into the top 4. And this is the season when that top 4 place has been very realistically achievable.

This shows the fallacy of the arguments like "we're doing well enough, why change anything" which were shouted down with the righteous indignation at those who were pointing out at the signs of shortcomings in attack and on the wings. Well, while the manager successfully neutralised the options of Pavlyuchenko and the unmentionable pacy Aztecan so that he could just keep playing his favoured players week in week out, the team has now found itself so clearly short of that kind of options - someone who can provide that extra cleverness, movement and unpredictability in the tight matches against defensive teams. Like what happened in the 20 min v Leeds.

In effect, Harry has limited the team's options through his own choice.
And that is what comes back to bite you after the initial quick start.

will8587
11-02-2010, 01:22 AM
That was one of the most pathetic performances I've ever seen. Every player besides maybe Dawson and Bale looked like absolute shit and couldn't care less about it.

Some observations:
Kranjcar is useless defending and tracking back. He gives his man yards of space, which allows the opposition to have their way. Also, is it that difficult to not kick the ball into the second tier? My god, his shots were awful. He also should have done better to finish that shot on Hahnemann.
Defoe was completely ineffective because we had no support to him. I was appalled by how many times he had to track back to behind midfield to get the ball. Once he did have it, he was way out of his element (and position) and looked like shit.
Jenas was absolute, utter, unbearably shit. Shocking performance. He should be embarrassed. This was exacerbated by the fact that he was playing Palacios' DM role. THIS MAKES NO SENSE. I honestly don't understand what Jenas brings to the table. He's not defensively minded, but too sloppy and limited in his vision to play Huddlestone's role.
Bentley, for all the time he had on the ball, managed to beat his man about three times. When he did, his crosses were up there with Aaron Lennon at his worst. Furthermore, he started tracking so far inside, he ended up passing the ball to Bale on the left! This left Kaboul isolated.....
Speaking of Kaboul, what a shit performance. Why the fuck wasn't Corluka playing? Kaboul proved today he should never again be considered for RB. What a terrible display. He couldn't beat a single man. On top of that, he was utterly incapable of playing a good cross.
Bassong was horrible in the first half. Horrible. He was consistently out of position, and Dawson did admirably to clean up most of his mistakes, like where Bassong got caught with his pants down on. Bassong get his shit together for the 2nd half, but his poor first half outweighed his performance in the 2nd.

Bravo to Dawson for his gritty performance. He really showed his class amidst the rest of the crap displayed by Spurs.
Bale also played very well, but needs to work on his crosses. I wish he'd put some crosses in sooner, instead of sprinting to the endline and cutting in. It gives the opposition, especially in the case of Villa and Wolves who love to crowd the box, time to get settled. I can't wait for BAE to come back, so he can be played at LM. Kranjcar and Modric don't cut it on the left.

Now onto Harry, I was one of many calling for some changes, but did we really need five changes??! I understand Gudjohnsen and Kranjcar, but what was Jenas and Kaboul? What did an out of position Kaboul add? Why was Jenas expected to play a defensive midfield role?

Fucking embarrassing. Harry better have learned something from this game, because he got it all wrong today.

bryanabutler
11-02-2010, 01:48 AM
Bring on Alex Inglethorpe and Clive Allen cant be any worse than Harry, who just buys average players

doom
11-02-2010, 01:53 AM
I would say the unpredictability of both Lennon and Assou Ekotto are very much missed. Bale adds something so we need to keep him in the team. Lets see Pav start the next few matches up on his own with Krankjar or Gudjonsen behind. This team is crying out for something different which does not include Jenas or players out of position.

grittyspur1
11-02-2010, 02:16 AM
Let's hoper and pray that Lennon is back and fit for our next premiership game against Wigan! This is getting really pathetic and hard to fathom.
Any team that gives six points to Wolves should not be in the Champions League!
coys

not_tenth-again
11-02-2010, 02:28 AM
So that's 6 points we've shipped to Wolves... on top of the debacle of Stoke and Hull.

When are we going to stop being a charity for relegation fodder teams!!

AirTito
11-02-2010, 03:54 AM
Sunday, 14 February 2010
The FA Cup
<!--Fixture ID: 3245016-->Bolton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bolton_wanderers/default.stm) v Tottenham (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/default.stm), R5, 13:30

Hope we can win it this year and judging by the team selection and performance or lack of on the pitch today, so does Harry.

Would love to win the FA Cup as a Spur's fan and applaud Harry's decison to rotate/rest players away at Wolves.

Still could have won the game though if we had taken the chances we did create. Unlucky.

:hump:

jolsnogross
11-02-2010, 05:50 AM
Just found out the score. Too annoyed to read all the comments.

That was a ridiculous line up. The idea that we can put out less than our best team against wolves away is such a ridiculous decision it is only worthy of contempt.

I'd also like to point out that several commenters on here have been bitching at Harry every game to use other players, drop Crouch etc. Well, you got what you wanted.

AJ
11-02-2010, 07:50 AM
Questionable? Quadruple halfway?

Freddiehotspur
11-02-2010, 09:21 AM
Harry should really stamp some discipline into the players. I didn't see any of them trying to take the game to wolves and beat them up.

Firstly, I would fine each of the players on the field yesterday. Maybe £10.000, not much, but enough to make a stand. Then I would remove Jenas from the squad. He really has shown that he can't perform at this level. Even gets overrun these days, and running used to be the only thing he did well. Half a year in the reserves and then sell him in the summer. I guess we would still recouperate £5mill.

Then, Defoe.... I said after the game against West Ham that he is totally of form. He isn't running any channels and not getting into any scoring position at all. He's not stretching play, not on the centre back's shoulder, where the f*** is he? I liked the idea of him and Gudjohnsson playing together to create some pacy inter-passing, and we did see it once, when Kranjcar was played through, admittedly by Defoe, but apart from that, nothing. He won't be goin to the world cup this summer, if he continues this trend.

And then Hudd... He's nowhere near dictating the pace of play. He doesn't link up, play one-touch, he's not tackling. He only got overrun this game (probably also due to the ineffective Jenas who neither tackled or harrassed any in orange and black).

I'll give credit to two players this night. Bale and Palacios, and Bentley's first half.

On a positive note, this will probably shut up the 4th place jibberish.

bspurs
11-02-2010, 09:24 AM
Sorry, but I can't support Harry anymore.
Anyone come up with this kind of starting line up wont take us anywhere.
I can't understand a manager that let Jenas start or even let him get on the field.
This is not his first time with this kind of performance.
Will Harry ever learn ?
Peter Crouch is not a good player, he maybe just good enough for Portsmouth or some mid table team, and sorry, IMO, Harry as well.

tottenham28
11-02-2010, 09:38 AM
So will all the people that has been backing Harry now open their eyes!!!
I for one have not been so thick lately. I could see this coming (as shown in my other posts). So many do gooders on here saying, 'we are playing really well, it just won't go in the net'. Well now you know!!!
This day was always going to come. Which shows all the times when we are 'playing well', if you don't win, shit like this happens...
We were so average last night it was like watching a lower league side. As for the team Harry selected, with the players that were available to him, don't get me started on that!!
Harry has no plan B. When sides play us, they now know to play, 1 up front and smother the midfield and we will get no more than a point ( if we are lucky).
So it is up to the manager to work on the training ground to prevent this. The so called 'top 4' would have figured out a way to break teams like this down, which only tells me, the manager is not good enough.
Harry is (as I said before ), good enough to keep teams up, but not good enough to take us to the next level.
Harry's last interview (after the Villa game ), said we are 'in form'???
He obviously needs to wake up because 8 points from a possible 24 (now 8 from 27) is not what I would call 'in form'!!!
So now join me in hoping that we can get to th F.A cup final, because that is the only joy the rest of the season holds!!!:evil:

2bearis2do
11-02-2010, 10:15 AM
Bring on Alex Inglethorpe and Clive Allen cant be any worse than Harry, who just buys average players

I like your thinking.

ataggy
11-02-2010, 10:51 AM
1) why choose now, after off loading TWO right backs, to rest Corluka with a DEBUTANT that is naturally a CENTER BACK. He called Kyle Walker back because apparantly he was playing well out on loan..so then surely he should of been given a go. not saying he would of immediatly settled and started playing well but at least he would be in his natrual pos and would of been no worse than Kaboul.

2) why play jenas instead of wilson. Wilson has been taken off alot halfway through the 2nd half etc so he cant need resting that much so just play him! This is the game we needed wilson in from the start.

3) I was in favour of dropping crouch but for pav not for an UNFIT DEBUTANT that is clearly not on the same page as defoe yet and has never played with him before.

4) 2 new players that arent used to how we play and move (admitedly we dont move much) just spelt disaster especially away to a team scrapping for life.

5) should of brought Modric on much earlier.

For someone that dont like making bold subs or desicions in general, why the hell he decided to just chuck 2 new players in from the start (1 unfit and 1 out of pos) is beyond me.

DEFchenkOE
11-02-2010, 10:59 AM
The top teams do not drop there best players, especially when the only rock we have in the middle is replaced by JERMAINE PENAS!!

:rofl:

AFred
11-02-2010, 11:08 AM
Not really surprised by this result really. We are really a team of players with above average ability who on their day will beat weak teams.

But when some bottle and desire is required to go with their above average ability is required, we somehow come up short.

I will probably get slaughtered for this but we are really like a poor man's Arsenal.

Lesser teams try to stop Arsenal from playing but although lacking any real bottle, Arsenal still have one of two players like Fabregas and Arshavin who with a piece of magic can win games singlehandedly (Fabregas against Villa and Arshavin against Liverpool).

14/04/91
11-02-2010, 11:16 AM
Dear oh dear. I'm so glad I made the effort to go last night, just wish the players had too.
Firstly a shocking lack of effort, desire and application; it was like the bad old days, typical Spurs away at a struggling team on a cold February night. There is no excuse for that.
It was strange decision to leave Palacios out in a game tailor made for his busy style but let's not forget he replaced him with a 20-cap England international. Jenas was nothing short of a disgrace, he summed up our performance - no professional pride, completely unfussed about the result.

Redknapp & his staff - we all know what a good job HR has done so far but I'm beginning to have serious reservations about the coaching TEAM. Coupled with our 3 AWFUL home results, last night was much of the same; all our substitutions were like for like, we didn't change shape. Bale was the only bright spark going forward, why not go 3 at the back and push him on?! Doyle was a lone forward so did we really need 4 defenders & Palacios?? Surely not.
We need someone sat next to Redknapp who can suggest changing shape when things are going wrong. Can someone tell me what Bond does?

Finally Gareth Bale was the only player to come out with any credit, he's beginning to look a first class player.
He was also the only player to applaud the travelling support, the other 10 just shrugged their shoulders and shuffled off.

GlennHoddle
11-02-2010, 11:21 AM
The never content with mediocrity Daniel Levy can show us his ambition for Spurs and get "the special one" in the summer.I mean it's only 9 years at the helm and never anywhere near wining the league.Levy and Lewis can fuck off anytime they like as far as I am concerned or put on the Chirpy outfit,wankers both of 'em

How can you blame the chairman?

Funds were always made available to managers, now building a state of the art stadium

I know its borne out of frustration, me too, so direct it at the management and players

WhiteHeartLowe
11-02-2010, 11:28 AM
Seems that we are to be what Villa were last year, strong at first, but then fading badly mid-season. Now I think we are realistically scrapping for sixth place, which is a disgrace considering our early promise. I suppose you could say that by some miracle getting into the CL would have been a waste of time anyway, as on these recent performances we would not have got beyond the group stages anyway!

GlennHoddle
11-02-2010, 11:39 AM
The loans of Hutton and Keane look a bit silly now.

We are not that desperate for cash are we?

On Defoe coming deep for the ball, maybe thats as a result of playing up top with the immobile Crouch, we are a long ball with him, end of.
At least Keane would come deep and demand the ball, something which alot of our players hide from. JD could then stay up top.

I think Harry has made a grave mistake in letting those two go on loan when what we should have being dong was keeping the squad together and add one or two for the final push.

First time I have questioned whether HR is the right man to take us forward.

GlennHoddle
11-02-2010, 12:01 PM
I can only think that Harry still loves Wham and was just building us up so he could crush our hopes like so many before him and then laugh at the joke that is THFC

green+white
11-02-2010, 12:52 PM
We were outbattled by Man u ,Wolves twice Hull ,L`pool,Everton ,Brum ,Villa twice amoung others.My point is we have no bottle when it is put up to us. It seems the other prem managers can see this and use it .wolves had 19 passes before scoring and no Spurs player got near tackling, for instance.
Harrys press talk was waffle and with that attitude I fear the rest of the season

pistolP
11-02-2010, 01:00 PM
Breezer - Yesterday, 11:10

Put a sock in it!

mart_loves_me - Yesterday, 11:11 PM


Sarcasm or misguided delusion...not sure which to think

Floyd - Yesterday, 11:15 PM


Spurs I love ...
Finish 2nd.......:rofl:
Harry.......:rofl:

Read between the line, guys. Sarcasm - yes or misguided delusion - no...not sure which to think - now you have your answer. I am disappointed that i did not elicit more reaction that these few comments.

JimmyG2
11-02-2010, 01:41 PM
Champions League ? don't think so. Out of the Europa places? I dont think so.
There is a third of the season to go and theoretically we could win the league or finish mid-table. We are safe from relegation.
A poor performance by manager,team or an individual does not make a poor manager, team or player.
However this was not a one- off. Wolves who are not the better team individually, apart from Doyle, played better than us last night.
Their keeper had one save to make and made it. Gomes had one save to make and didn't make it.
Poor team selection, too many changes, and nobody except Bale came out with any credit. Harry gambled, particularly on Gudjohnsen, and lost.
Many of us who have asked for changes got what we asked for but not what we wanted.
Even the candle I have held up for so long for Jenas spluttered and went out last night.
Not sure that Harry has the resources to turn it around, personally or otherwise.
But he has surprised us in the past and we have to believe that for the moment he will again.
Otherwise we are off on the merry-go-round again.

herefordyid
11-02-2010, 02:26 PM
I was unfortunate enough to be there last night, a few things became quite clear though.

1. We are not good enough to qualify for the champions league
2. Jermaine Jenas is just not good enough!!!

Jenas was like a fish out of water, gave the ball away whenever he had it, got caught in possession and lacked any grit and tenacity that we need to a scrap with a shite side like Wolves. It got to the point where he failed to track back after loosing the ball in the final third.

It was beyond me how Gudjohnson started?? what has he done to warrant a start? It was quite clear to see he is not interested in running his socks off for the cause and gave the ball away on numerous occasions - unfortunately quite the opposite to keane.

As for charlie, he was dropped to the bench so big Younes could play right back? another strange decision.

The only bright spark on a hugely depressing night was again a superb performance from Gareth Bale, He was again our best performer and always looked dangerous going forward.

I think it is safe to say NO LENNON NO SPURS.:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:

Come on Aitch. lets get some consistancy! We are better than this.

COYS

klintheman
11-02-2010, 04:32 PM
Also made the trip last night and came away gutted...probably didn't help the fact that my trip home to essex was a car full of Wolves fans.

My two pence worth:

- Same as everyone else here i think regarding the selection, Kaboul gave us nothing going forward. He'll still make a very decent centre back (better than Bassong on last night) but to play his first game back out of position was a joke.

- Jenas, I've never been so disgusted by a performance than his. I'm not usually one to bash a player, everyone has bad games, but commitment should be 100% every time they put a Spurs shirt on. Those that were there last night will back me, towards the end of the second half Jenas made a break forward to make a (at best) limp challenge on (i think) Jones. He was slipped, Wolves counter attacked and he literally stood there watching all the orange shirts blaze past him, waving his arms and shacking his head.
At not one point did he decide to track back, it's not a knee jerk reaction but a combination on toss performances, I never want to see him in a Spurs shirt again, never!!!

- Redknapp - I know you're only used to fighting relegation but pull your finger out because the fans will not put up with it much longer, shocking tactical decisions and apparently from the side lines motivation.

- No heart from the majority, in my opinion the only players that can hold there heads up high are Bale, Dawson, Bentley and Kaboul (sheer effort)

Things need to change and quick, on that performance we won't even win a raffle.


COYS

octavian
11-02-2010, 04:46 PM
If you mean Mourinho you're more deluded than you think.

Leave Inter to join Spurs :rofl:

Maurice Johnston,Luis Figo etc,etc

herefordyid
11-02-2010, 05:00 PM
Totally agree, thats the same point in the game I was making reference to. We have been patient enough with Jenas. He was shocking last night, all he showed againt wolves was his pea heart!!! I wouldnt want him behind me in the trenches!

As a footnote, hated where we sat, all along that narrow front of the Steve Bull Stand, we couldnt get any atmosphere going and to top it all off, as we walked to go out of the gang ways at the final whistle we were getting pelters from the wolves fans in the hospitalilty boxes, they were holding up signs saying "champions league, ur having a laugh". It was unbareable and we couldnt do chuff all about it! I cannot get accross my anger/disappoinment following last night.:bang::bang:

Wolves are shite and they have taken 6 points off us, we couldnt even score in 180 minutes of football.

Again we seem further away than ever from gettin near the champions league!

Dear Jermain Jenas,

Will you refund my ticket/petrol/half time pie?



Jonny

sebo_sek
11-02-2010, 05:15 PM
Maurice Johnston,Luis Figo etc,etc
When did Figo play for us?

There is no way we are getting Mourinho.

Breezer
11-02-2010, 05:24 PM
Those that were there last night will back me, towards the end of the second half Jenas made a break forward to make a (at best) limp challenge on (i think) Jones. He was slipped, Wolves counter attacked and he literally stood there watching all the orange shirts blaze past him, waving his arms and shacking his head.
At not one point did he decide to track back, it's not a knee jerk reaction but a combination on toss performances, I never want to see him in a Spurs shirt again, never!!!



Do you mean end of the first half? Cause i'm sure Penas was taken off at half time.

Totsfan
11-02-2010, 06:32 PM
Totally agree, thats the same point in the game I was making reference to. We have been patient enough with Jenas. He was shocking last night, all he showed againt wolves was his pea heart!!! I wouldnt want him behind me in the trenches!

As a footnote, hated where we sat, all along that narrow front of the Steve Bull Stand, we couldnt get any atmosphere going and to top it all off, as we walked to go out of the gang ways at the final whistle we were getting pelters from the wolves fans in the hospitalilty boxes, they were holding up signs saying "champions league, ur having a laugh". It was unbareable and we couldnt do chuff all about it! I cannot get accross my anger/disappoinment following last night.:bang::bang:

Wolves are shite and they have taken 6 points off us, we couldnt even score in 180 minutes of football.

Again we seem further away than ever from gettin near the champions league!

Dear Jermain Jenas,

Will you refund my ticket/petrol/half time pie?



Jonny

I see enough is already being said of my least favourite player at my beloved Spurs. Totally, utterly shocking and disgraceful that he calls himself a footballer.......

klintheman
11-02-2010, 11:12 PM
Sorry, yeah meant the end of the first half, best decision of the night was when Wilson cams out instead