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The Daily ITK Discussion thread 28th July: The Shellshock Edition

StartingPrice

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1. You know that for a fact, or is that your opinion?
2. Who said anything about automatic starter. If permission is given to talk to him he'll be aware of the terms of his contract.
3. Players get injuries, doesn't make them invaluable.
4. What he has lost in pure athleticism, he makes up for with experience/reading the game....????.....(might be stretching my credibility with this one).

see post above. imo he wouldn't be a bad addition to the squad.

1) If having a vague recollection that when he left Chelsea, and when he left Newcastle he said he wants to 'play', and again a vague recollection that he has since said the same (I wouldn't be appy sitting on bench), then fact...if disputed, hell, I ain't gonna spend the next five hours trying to produce prrof for ya, fella, take-it-or-leave-it, eh:shrug:
2) I would be reasonably happy if he was witting on the bench for us, but, obviously, if I am right about 1, above, then two is correct also. I just can't see him being a player who would be happy to sit on the bench, but he definitely isn't so good as to walk straight into the team every time he returns from injury...but, again, I can't prove it...so, by all means, think it would be a good transfer, and if it happens and you turn out to be right
WOOOHOOO
3) Obviously, King is valuable...if some reports are to be believed, Parker's knee is almost as bad a Ledley's. Do you really think it would be wise to fill up a squad place with 20 games a season man, who isn't good enough to walk into our first team when fit...what would the point of that be?
4) It is my subjective opinion...I am sure he has learned a biton the way (don't we all:wink:), but I really do think that when he left Charlton was the time to sign him. He chose Chelsea. We then tried to sign him when he left them, and he chose Newcastle. We then tried to sell him and he chose Wet Spam. I have become progressively less enthralled with the idea. But like I said, it is just my opinion...so go on, knock yourself out with your Scotty Parker related shenanigans:grin:​
 

kdspur

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i think everyone needs to relax. i have no doubt alot of people have the hump cos we are after a west ham player but when you sit down and think about it you can see why harry is going for player like this.. we have no real bite and aggresion in middle of filed aprt from wilson and whats happens when he gets injured. he cant be expected to play all top games and be at top of game. wilson went off boil abit at end of season albeit trying to avoid a yellow card yes we have modric who is class aprt but if wilson god forbid got injury we are relying on thudd and modric and an inexperienced premier league player and foreigner from brazil who is only 20 to get us thru games that hopefully will be coming every three days till xmas...i feel thudd and modric did brill for top games at end but at times we did get away with it luckily... we need legs in there, we need someone who can be of the type like wilson.. personally i always felt harry is after lassana diarra and still feel that.. that german lad is on his way to madrid khedira so that makes him alonso 2 diarra's and gago kaka just off top of my head there so i reckon L.diarra cud be available.

if he decides to go ahead with central midfield signing i dont expect winger signing although i believe we have serious interest in ashley young. i dont care what anyone says- if he is up for sale in morning, we will have bid in, end of.

parker wud be clever buy mind.. wud not play all games. i believe we will get rid of some rubbish too like jenas and o hara so i wud expect another central midfield player coming in for sure
 

Berglad

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Perhaps POTL's "few irons in the fire" were Carlton Cole, Scott Parker, and Matthew Upson and the "you all will be very happy" part was directed toward Man City, Arsenal, and Liverpool. :razz:
 

LukaMotion

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1) If having a vague recollection that when he left Chelsea, and when he left Newcastle he said he wants to 'play', and again a vague recollection that he has since said the same (I wouldn't be appy sitting on bench), then fact...if disputed, hell, I ain't gonna spend the next five hours trying to produce prrof for ya, fella, take-it-or-leave-it, eh:shrug:
2) I would be reasonably happy if he was witting on the bench for us, but, obviously, if I am right about 1, above, then two is correct also. I just can't see him being a player who would be happy to sit on the bench, but he definitely isn't so good as to walk straight into the team every time he returns from injury...but, again, I can't prove it...so, by all means, think it would be a good transfer, and if it happens and you turn out to be right
WOOOHOOO
3) Obviously, King is valuable...if some reports are to be believed, Parker's knee is almost as bad a Ledley's. Do you really think it would be wise to fill up a squad place with 20 games a season man, who isn't good enough to walk into our first team when fit...what would the point of that be?
4) It is my subjective opinion...I am sure he has learned a biton the way (don't we all:wink:), but I really do think that when he left Charlton was the time to sign him. He chose Chelsea. We then tried to sign him when he left them, and he chose Newcastle. We then tried to sell him and he chose Wet Spam. I have become progressively less enthralled with the idea. But like I said, it is just my opinion...so go on, knock yourself out with your Scotty Parker related shenanigans:grin:​

My god, Daniel Levy's an even bigger genius than i thought if he's trying to sell other clubs players. :wink:

Also, bit of a rant there SP :razz:
 

fazza

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Bellamy, Parker, C.Cole all depress me greatly. Turan, Ozil and Dzeko make me sex wee :hump:

Anyone else feel the same.............
 

punky

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just posted by Paul Smith over at SO

I don't get that - thats opinion not ITK? Or am I reading it wrong?

I don't think Parker would be a good addition to our squad. We've got decent tackling midfielders in Palacios and Huddlestone. I also rate O'Hara above Parker, not to mention being younger and despite having a bad back at the moment, is less injury-prone. And we've also got Sandro.

Parker is alright but not a quantum leap above what we already have. And not a position in which we're desperate in either.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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I understand that some people don't want Parker I'm not too fussed myself any more but he is a good player and if we are serious about mounting a challenge this season we need some Parker like players along with the International superstars everyone is getting excited about and we should remember that by common consent Parker is responsible for West Ham's continued premiership status.
 

yozza

It's Totti, not Shitty.......get it right!
Feb 23, 2004
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Holly Crap :eek:mg:

I finish work, go to the gym, have dinner and then log on to find all this!!!!
It's only been 3hrs since I last checked up on any ITK.

I'm trying not to get too excited about all this but its not easy!

If Levy manages to get Ozil to sign he will be even more of a legend in my books!
 

smudger

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Bellamy, Parker, C.Cole all depress me greatly. Turan, Ozil and Dzeko make me sex wee :hump:

Anyone else feel the same.............

i'm with you fazza :beer:

dunno whether to laugh or cry with each bit of info i see :bang:

gotta love transfer window and ITK especially now we've got out daily thread it now offically feels like the pre-season has started
 

LukaMotion

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I understand that some people don't want Parker I'm not too fussed myself any more but he is a good player and if we are serious about mounting a challenge this season we need some Parker like players along with the International superstars everyone is getting excited about and we should remember that by common consent Parker is responsible for West Ham's continued premiership status.

The thing is, we already do. Wilson and Tom are proven in that department, along with the highly rated Sandro. Now do we really need more than 3 defensive midfielders in a 25 man squad? Not to mention we have Kaboul who can play there aswell, and we still have JJ and O'hara on our books.

It's really not an area we need strengthening IMO.
 

BPR_U16

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Jun 28, 2006
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bayern in for ozil

well thats a surprise!!

there's bound to be lots of interest, we just have to hope that DL can promise something the others can't because think we all admit that realistically it would be one hell of a surprise if he chose us over some of the others supposedly interested
 

Rackybear

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Aug 10, 2008
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Hoddle Ledge on the Ozil ITK thread said he spoke to Paul Allen at the gym who said "we were trying for ozil".

*Come on, whos gonna jizz there pants first?*
 

DoublePivot

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Jul 1, 2005
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Oezil to Bayern? Ribbery, Robben, Kroos, Prajnic, Sosa and Mueller make me think that this isn't a story with legs
 

WexfordTownSpur

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Fukin fantastic. Well done this is great news. I am so glad to see it back the way it is. Now I know when I see a "new" and bolded itk thread I know it is new itk in and not just idle chat in the thread.

Thank you thank for this.

Yer know it makes sense;-)
 

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
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My god, Daniel Levy's an even bigger genius than i thought if he's trying to sell other clubs players. :wink:

Also, bit of a rant there SP :razz:

1) You got me there Pard'ner:oops:

2) Well, ranting seems to be the order of the day regarding player we cold buy, should buy, have brought, or haven't brought...just thought I'd join in (otherwise I would stand out and kids would chase me down the street poking me with sticks until I had a stroke or summit:cry:).
 

C-oops

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Cant see why we would have bid for Parker. havemore than enough cover inhis position and IIRC he is on something like 80 grand a week. ( I posted their wages a while back - cant remember where I got them from)
 
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