What's new

Say No To Stratford. Requiem for a dream.

adamthfc

Member
Jun 28, 2004
775
170
Ok, you live 40 miles away and oppose the proposed move, you're still a minority.



Again, you live far away and you oppose it, yet you're still the minority.


Another thing we need to consider is that SC is again, only a MINORITY of the whole Tottenham fan base, we might see a majority of people on SC against the proposed move despite how far or close they live, but that doesn't mean very much, as you're still a minority!

how do you know those opposed are a minority?there has been no offical poll of supporters other than levy saying it
 

Paolo10

Well-Known Member
Apr 6, 2004
6,179
7,621
Say no to competing with the big 4, say no to a CL wage structure, say no to more fans at games, say no to progress, say no to the future.

JUST SAY NO.
 

stemark44

Well-Known Member
Mar 17, 2005
6,598
1,829
If any of our fans in North London have any relations that own land around the Lane(that the club needs to develop our current location)could you please ask them to sell it for a fair price rather than 10 tens its value.
These are the profit makers that our fans should be harassing because they are driving us out of Tottenham.
 

Spurz

Well-Known Member
Feb 3, 2004
2,612
499
We are not moving to east London, we are conquering east london. And the spams will become our feeder club when they go down
 

Spurz

Well-Known Member
Feb 3, 2004
2,612
499
well there are signatures on paper and not on the net apparently and many people don't really bother with petitions.If you speak to people around the ground it is very much not a minority

The majority are neutral. The anti crowd is just being extremely vocal and getting more emotional when they realise they are not getting the response they want from the neutrals. They are almost losing their logic, the more they argue.
 

nailsy

SC Supporter
Jul 24, 2005
30,536
46,628
I don't think the club should leave N17 and move to Stratford

I live approx 18500 miles away.

Barmy do you ever get to go to a game at The Lane? I've been wondering how much our overseas visitors have affected that average figure of 40 miles.

Personally I'm not sure if the OS is the right move for us, but if the cost of staying in Tottenham means a new stadium there is now unaffordable we are going to have to move somewhere. Are there any alternative locations within five or six miles of Tottenham that would be better than the OS?
 

adamthfc

Member
Jun 28, 2004
775
170
The majority are neutral. The anti crowd is just being extremely vocal and getting more emotional when they realise they are not getting the response they want from the neutrals. They are almost losing their logic, the more they argue.

again how do you know the majority are neutral?the club could easily carry out a survey to prove it one way or the other
 

michaelden

Knight of the Fat Fanny
Aug 13, 2004
26,386
21,685
I don't think the club should leave N17 and move to Stratford

I live approx 18500 miles away.

The SC president gets involved! :snooty:

This is exactly the political pressure DL said shoukld be avoided if a fair & reasonable poutcome to the bidding process was to be achieved
 

Hoowl

Dr wHo(owl)
Staff
Aug 18, 2005
6,526
266
I've posted this in the Stadium thread, which is where these threads may end up if they end up with the same discussion. Anyway:

Just to try and summarise what I think is the 'Pro Stratford' view, I think almost everyone ok with the move is first and foremost concerned with having a new Stadium.

1) They primarily want a new bigger stadium because:
a) They want us to be able accomodate the huge number of extra fans who want to come and watch each week.
b) They've seen the plans for the naming rights stadum and excited by them.
c) They've seen the strong correlation between wages and sustained success.
d) They are frustrated at our current inability to attract players due to the fact we cannot offer enough wages.

2) Because they want a new stadium they are willing to move as:
a) They do not see it as deminishing our history or as selling out
b) Levy has said the the NDP is not viable
c) The OS seems far less of a finanacial risk to the club than the NDP.
d) The OS will most likely be far more profitable than a new stadium in Tottenham
e) The club haven't previously been able to find any other suitable site in North London.

As Levy has said, the primary driver is a new Stadium, not moving to Stratford. It is because a new stadium is so important to people that they are willing to move to Stratford.
 

CosmicHotspur

Better a wag than a WAG
Aug 14, 2006
51,069
22,383
The video was a nice idea and had some good potted history, despite the errors already mentioned.

No, I don't want us to move and I didn't know that Billy Nick's ashes were scattered at WHL and I found that bit of info quite emotional.
 

StanSpur

Ronny Rosenthal
Jul 15, 2004
2,436
2,042
Video raised some good points .

A move to Stratford means the end of Tottenham Hotspur for many of us .

Whatever club was playing in Stratford , it wouldn't be Tottenham Hotspur anymore , it would be a new entity .

Doesn't take many people thinking along those lines and the new stadium won't even be getting the 36k we get today .

Does that part of London need a new club when they've already got Leyton Orient and West Ham ?


I sincerely hope Levy sees sense and pulls out from making the biggest mistake in the clubs history .

What a load of BS.

History does not get erased because of a move. Tottenham in Stratford would still be the same club as the one that won the double in 61. They would just play in a different ground. We were a club before we moved to WHL and if we move away we'll still be the same club, all this sentimental BS about our 'home' is a load of nonsense. Read the history books and we talk about the days the club formed - let me just point out that it wasn't near the paxton road. Yet that is our club and our history. The original site for Anfield used to belong to Everton does that matter? Stamford Bridge was intended for Fulham, does that matter? Is moving 5 miles (still within London) that big of a deal? I don't think so.

I love going to the Lane and the walk from 7 Sisters as it brings me back to my youth and the early days of being treated to a rare game with my dad. I'd prefer to stay there if possible BUT, if it will put the club in huge debt i'd rather we explored different options. We need to move to increase our revenue just to keep up with our rivals and if it is in Stratford then i'll still have those fond memories of the new west stand going in, meeting gazza and lineker and posing on the pitch with the FA cup in full strip. No move can take that away. A bigger stadium would elevate our revenue and make us a more attractive proposition for transfers and start a new chapter in our history, not wipe it out.
 

dannythomas

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2004
3,757
2,813
Since staying at WHL is " not an option " I would like to know the back up plan from Levy if as seems likely ( hopefully ) we don't win the bid . Seems like we will start from scratch and have no choice but to do what is not an option for the foreseeable future.
Levy is very patronizing when he says it is only a very small minority who oppose the plan. Why didn't he start off by polling all the season ticket holders and those on the waiting list and Spurs Members to find out a truer picture?
 

Bobbins

SC's 14th Sexiest Male 2008
May 5, 2005
21,548
45,031
Video was pretty cack, though I don't want us to move.

Also, we're not building a 'soulless bowl' - that bit really, really pissed me off as it's total bollocks. The new stadium design is absolutely brilliant, with a fecking Kop stand for God's sake.

Still, I want it built at WHL, not Stratford. But I can see the club's reasons for wanting to do so.
 

nailsy

SC Supporter
Jul 24, 2005
30,536
46,628
Since staying at WHL is " not an option " I would like to know the back up plan from Levy if as seems likely ( hopefully ) we don't win the bid . Seems like we will start from scratch and have no choice but to do what is not an option for the foreseeable future.
Levy is very patronizing when he says it is only a very small minority who oppose the plan. Why didn't he start off by polling all the season ticket holders and those on the waiting list and Spurs Members to find out a truer picture?

My guess is that if he did that then there would have been a huge 'No' response as people would have just gone with a gut response rather than considering the options and benefits of each venue. He's given people the time to become aware of the issues surrounding the OS and that gives him more of a chance of people saying 'Yes' when they are eventually consulted.
 

Rafael

Banned
Nov 25, 2010
220
1
when do we find out about the bids for the OS

Not sure mate, the original deciding date had been postponed to give more time to decide on who to go with.


Another thing that annoys me is that all the anti-Stratford are so blinded by their arrogance of their anti-Stratford, they either don't see the positives for Stratford or refuse to admit them.

Again, this leads back to that their behaviour and their 'anti-Stratford' campaign's are rather selfish.


I can see the positives of staying at WHL, but the positives and other good things pro-Stratford significantly outweigh the positives of staying at WHL. Also the positives for Stratford are much more firm and rational than the positives for staying at WHL.
 

rich75

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2004
7,591
3,215
Well that's me convinced , Stratford all the way . Any campaign that uses that fuck awful piece of music deserves to fail.
 
Top