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Spurs' Man of the Match


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Spurs_Bear

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Having thought about it, as I still can't really determine a MOTM, I'm going to give it to the bloke in front of me in the chip shop at Northumberland Park before the game. His order went like this:

Woman behind the counter: "Do you want any salad on your Cheeseburger mate?"

Bloke in front: "Nah...just some doner meat please."

Doner meat. On a Cheeseburger.

For the love of God.
 

onthetwo

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I've been a little controversial in MOM tonight - I've given it to Naughton, as much because of the absurd criticism some folk on here give him as for any definitively head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the team. if I was to give rating, I would probably have 4 or 5, including Naughton on the same grade.

Liked Lloris, too.




Not really. Giving one for a subjective opinion that is neither offensive or crazy is more problematic IMVHO. It is axiomatic that if it is a footballing matter that you disagree with, then he automatically disagrees with you, by virtue of holding an opinion you disagree with. In this case why on earth should he not apply the same standard to you as you have to him. Indeed, I think it is pretty bizarre that you should complain. Bizarre...



...and this.
There is a thread on the ratings system, perhaps you should read it. Myself, I prefer to debate if I disagree with someone, and tend to use the negging rarely and only when someone is being incredibly contetnious, obtuse or offensive.

Naughton was my MoM too - looks like hes played that position his whole career which obviously isnt the case, solid going forward and in defence. Lloris looked calm too.
 

phil

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Naughton was my MoM too - looks like hes played that position his whole career which obviously isnt the case, solid going forward and in defence. Lloris looked calm too.

I don't think that Naughton looks at all comfortable on the left. It will be interesting to see what AVB does when Benni returns as I would like to see Naughton given a chance on the right. Walker's defending doesn't seem to be improving; he continually fails to track players. What he gives us going forward just doesn't compensate for his poor defending.
 

BorisTM

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Dec 30, 2007
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Just even thinking that Townsend is anywhere near their levels is simply laughable. You ask any unbias person who knows anything about football and they would say the same thing.

Both are regulars for Arsenal. Has Townsend started an EPL match yet?

And for the record I like him as well.

That tells ya how much better our squad is. :D
 

Reshep

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I've been a little controversial in MOM tonight - I've given it to Naughton, as much because of the absurd criticism some folk on here give him as for any definitively head-and-shoulders above anyone else in the team. if I was to give rating, I would probably have 4 or 5, including Naughton on the same grade.

Liked Lloris, too.




Not really. Giving one for a subjective opinion that is neither offensive or crazy is more problematic IMVHO. It is axiomatic that if it is a footballing matter that you disagree with, then he automatically disagrees with you, by virtue of holding an opinion you disagree with. In this case why on earth should he not apply the same standard to you as you have to him. Indeed, I think it is pretty bizarre that you should complain. Bizarre...



...and this.
There is a thread on the ratings system, perhaps you should read it. Myself, I prefer to debate if I disagree with someone, and tend to use the negging rarely and only when someone is being incredibly contetnious, obtuse or offensive.

I have no problem with someone disagreeing with my opinion, fact is in the Reading Ratings Thread 9 people disagreed with my ratings and none agreed!! (Despite these not being "crazy" or "offensive"). After those users disagreed with me, I did not go and find the last post from each and every one of them to administer a negative or dumb rating out of spite. That in my opinion would have been childish, and petty. I took the disagreements on the chin as they were genuine from users who did not agree with my assessment of the game - that is fair enough.

I disagreed on this thread because I disagreed with his match ratings (shock horror) - I fail to see how this is problematic? Omar gave a dumb to my post on the Reading match day thread in response to my disagreement with him on this thread, not based on an opinion or reasonable argument but based on the fact that I hurt his emotions by disagreeing with him.

To be honest I am not that fussed about who agrees with me or not, I am not here to blow smoke up your arse Omar’s arse or anyone else’s. But if you are going to rate posts then do it genuinely, based on what is stated rather than doing it in spite.
 

DJS

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Dec 9, 2006
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I'd like to see us continuing to use Townsend when possible as the main cover for Bale.

If Bale does eventually then feel the urge to go abroad to Real Madrid or Barcelona then we'll have a ready-made replacement for him rather then having to splosh out major wonga. :D
 

Spurs_Bear

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Naughton was my MoM too - looks like hes played that position his whole career which obviously isnt the case, solid going forward and in defence.

No offence, and I'm not going to neg it, but that is literally fucking mental.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I'd like to see us continuing to use Townsend when possible as the main cover for Bale.

If Bale does eventually then feel the urge to go abroad to Real Madrid or Barcelona then we'll have a ready-made replacement for him rather then having to splosh out major wonga. :D

Really? Bit of a step down don't you think?
 

moomin

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Having thought about it, as I still can't really determine a MOTM, I'm going to give it to the bloke in front of me in the chip shop at Northumberland Park before the game. His order went like this:

Woman behind the counter: "Do you want any salad on your Cheeseburger mate?"

Bloke in front: "Nah...just some doner meat please."

Doner meat. On a Cheeseburger.

For the love of God.
As an american, im more off put about the "salad on a burger" comment.
i'm picturing a full on salad, croutons dressing and all on a burger.....

is that how you brits refer to lettuce/onions/tomato on a burger? salad?
 

Spurs_Bear

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As an american, im more off put about the "salad on a burger" comment.
i'm picturing a full on salad, croutons dressing and all on a burger.....

is that how you brits refer to lettuce/onions/tomato on a burger? salad?

Do Americans know what 'doner meat' is.....? :)
 

Spursidol

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Really? Bit of a step down don't you think?

If Bale goes, we are unlikely to find and buy an equivalent, so any replacement willl, in your words, 'be a step down'

However the idea of using Townsend (or any of the youngsters) to come on as a sub and, after a few sub appearances, start matches is precisely the way to develop young players - and get tyhem to the the level that Bale is. Remember Bale dod not start as a world beater either.

Probably 50% or even 75% of the youngsters coming into the first team will move on after a couple of seasons as there are other better players coming to Spurs, either by being bought or coming through tyhe youth system.

However it will not be apparant for some time who the successes are and who will move on. Right now Townsend is looking a good prospect, as are Carroll, Kane, Smith, Caulker and others.
 

onthetwo

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No offence, and I'm not going to neg it, but that is literally fucking mental.
i have the occassional "mental" moment, and i was at the game....sober....and if you tell me that youre the head of technical analysis at the FA then i will defer to your superior technical knowledge of football (and Ive been watching Spurs for the last 40 years so you could make a case that the emotional rollercoaster has dulled my footballing senses) but go on, lets hear the 'literally mental" explanation, im all Gareth Bale pre-op.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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If Bale goes, we are unlikely to find and buy an equivalent, so any replacement willl, in your words, 'be a step down'

However the idea of using Townsend (or any of the youngsters) to come on as a sub and, after a few sub appearances, start matches is precisely the way to develop young players - and get tyhem to the the level that Bale is. Remember Bale dod not start as a world beater either.

Probably 50% or even 75% of the youngsters coming into the first team will move on after a couple of seasons as there are other better players coming to Spurs, either by being bought or coming through tyhe youth system.

However it will not be apparant for some time who the successes are and who will move on. Right now Townsend is looking a good prospect, as are Carroll, Kane, Smith, Caulker and others.


Bale didn't start as a world beater but we bought him as a youth player with huge potential which he is fulfilling to a certain extent.

Townsend looks nothing more than decent IMO. I don't see any big clubs chasing him after his loan spells.

Personally I would hope that we are a bit more ambitious when considering a replacement for Bale.
 

elDiablo

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Sandro MOTM for me. Lloris and Verts look class acts. Naughon and Caulker have a way to go yet but have plenty of time

Start Lloris Sunday for petes sake, and Hugo's!

I wonder if Brad has it written into his contract, that whilst he is fit, then he plays premier league games until the record is broken.
 

Spurs_Bear

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i have the occassional "mental" moment, and i was at the game....sober....so go on, lets hear it.

As was I.

I don't have anything to say about him defensively last night. because he had no need to be involved, but time and time again he left us short by not advancing down the left to create the space, as I've said before it's not his fault, he's a right back playing in an alien position, and his left foot is for nothing but standing on. We were awfully lopsided when attacking and there were numerous times when Bale was looking for someone on the overlap, and he was hanging back, or was late moving into position.

We are all guilty of Tottenham tinted glasses, and we're doing that with Naughton at the moment, he's showing nothing more than the ability to 'fill in', which is fine, but MOTM? Come on...
 

stormfly

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The Daily Fail just gets better and better "youngsters Andros Townsend and Ryan Mason also aquitted themselves well..." Mason played for 2 seconds! Do they watch matches at the Daily Fail?
 

Spursidol

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Bale didn't start as a world beater but we bought him as a youth player with huge potential which he is fulfilling to a certain extent.

Townsend looks nothing more than decent IMO. I don't see any big clubs chasing him after his loan spells.

Personally I would hope that we are a bit more ambitious when considering a replacement for Bale.

What I said was allow Townsend to develop.

If and when Bale looks like leaving is the time to assess whether Townsend can step full time into Bale's shoes. Right now, I would suggest its unlikely, but if Bale stays 2 seasons, then its perfectly possible (not probable but perfectly possible).

Whilst Bale was bought with potential, it was just potentional. It took him several years to become the player he is now - and initially I thought we should have bought Walcott and not Bale. Not any longer - which is a good example of the difficulty of predicting how a young player wiull turn out
 

onthetwo

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As was I.

I don't have anything to say about him defensively last night. because he had no need to be involved, but time and time again he left us short by not advancing down the left to create the space, as I've said before it's not his fault, he's a right back playing in an alien position, and his left foot is for nothing but standing on. We were awfully lopsided when attacking and there were numerous times when Bale was looking for someone on the overlap, and he was hanging back, or was late moving into position.

We are all guilty of Tottenham tinted glasses, and we're doing that with Naughton at the moment, he's showing nothing more than the ability to 'fill in', which is fine, but MOTM? Come on...

I guess i was thinking about it from the perspective of a young kid making his first home start for us, playing out of position against decent opposition. On that basis i thought he acquitted himself very well. But in terms of rampaging overlapping fullbacks, id agree that i didnt see much to suggest thats hes going to be the answer. But when he hits the injury-time winner into the top corner on Sunday, left footed, I'll be back to haunt you. Heres hoping :D
 

stevenqoz

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Lloris - 6.5

Walker - 5.5

Caulker - 7.5

Vertonghen - 8

Naughton - 6

Lennon - 6

Sandro - 6

Dembele - 7

Dempsey - 6

Bale - 6

Defoe - 6

SUBS:

Sigurdsson - 5.5

Townsend - 6

Hard done by for 2 of the 3 disallowed goals. That said Lazio had a couple of good chances too. As I said eleswhere that midfield 3 lacked guile.....no not in the way Dembele glides effortlessly past players or the way Sandro positions his body so well in getting in front of the opponent when covering or not even the neat way Dempsey connected the play. No we lacked the guile that big Tom cold supply with his intelligent passing. With Huddlestone not getting a minute we were laboured, predictable and playing largely in front of centre backs with a combined age around 70. Defoe played the best two balls of the night and you could hardly call him visionary as a passer. Huddlestone moves the ball quicker and more precisly than the honest hard working Sandro.....we needed to change the balance today especially in the last half an hour
 
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