Blackcanary
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Kyle Walker
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absolute bobbins
Am Yisrael Chai
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No he isn't, he's paid to be a footballer.
absolute bobbins
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MarcusG
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Why? He hasn't done anything illegal, it was before pre-season and it's only because the red top trolls have decided to publish now (in international week) that we're even discussing it. So if he was pictured before pre-season out with friends enjoying a beer (not rolling around on the floor drunk), you would make the same conclusion?
Rout-Ledge
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Drinking to excess is worse - both for the user and those around them, than inhaling laughing gas - in pretty much every respect.
Footballers do that all the time.
guiltyparty
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People don't have to break the law to be idiotic. Being a West Ham fan was legal last time I looked (*ba-boom tish!*)
It's not a fail from The Mirror, they have dirt and they are muck-rakers, so they wait till the best time possible to sell as many papers with it as possible. That's just good business on their part. No one made Kyle do it, I wish we'd stop this diverting of blame away from our poor, precious players.
It never ceases to amaze me how utterly stupid and thoughtless footballers are, and how fans rush to defend them
tiger666
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He's a young lad. Did you never do anything stupid as a young man? I know I certainly did. Just because he's a footballer, that doesn't mean he has to live like a monk. Calling him utterly stupid and thoughtless is ridiculous.
guiltyparty
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They're celebrities now, they are paid ridiculous amounts of money to compensate, they have to deal with that. This is not new - footballers know if they do anything that isn't whiter than white, it will get picked on and blown up. They are not children.
Poppers are legal and make you laugh, too, but imagine the stories that would be written about anyone who partook in those in public. It's just common sense, and a lot of footballers seem to lack that
karennina
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This bit always gets me. The (capitalist) scumbags were being reasonable because their harmful actions made sweet sweet profit!
guiltyparty
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He's 23, not 16. In my household you were responsible for what you did after you were 18. What's he been doing for the last five years?
Yes I did plenty of stupid stuff. But I'm not a public figure.
Anyway, this is getting to be like I'm attacking him, and I'm not. If anything I'm bemoaning those who defend footballers in general when they do silly things. It's a storm in a teacup, but it still didn't need to be even that if he'd used a couple of brain cells
guiltyparty
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Didn't say they were reasonable, said it was to be expected
Everyone had their eyes wide open, and to pretend that you didn't know this would happen is to be untruthful
JerryGarcia
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You must have had trouble reading my posts or are choosing to ignore where I've said twice now that I think Walker was stupid for letting himself be caught on camera. As for the part in bold though, what the actual fuck? You think it's good business to try to ruin a young mans international career? What absolute bollocks, if they gave a shit about the so called effects of laughing gas they would have reported this straight away so as to save lives and stop even more people becoming addicted to this heroin like substance also known as 'hippy crack'.
Nobody is trying to divert blame from Walker, they're saying he didn't actually do much wrong in the first place. Personaly I find it worse that you are defending the Mirror and the Daily Mail.
karennina
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Given that you said "it's not a fail from the mirror...that's just good business on their part.", 'reasonable' is a totally accurate summation of the view of their actions you put forward.
Protestants during the counter reformation would have been silly expecting the inquisition not to torture them for any heresies they put forward. Loyola didn't 'fail' in his bid to violently extinguish religious freedom and scientific thought across swathes of southern europe. But to judge his actions 'not a fail' as a whole, without enough qualification to ultimately reverse the judgement, is to put a positive valuation on what we'd see as monstrosity, today.
The daily mirror will be looked back on as an inquisition pamphlet of the early 21st century.
guiltyparty
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Yes, but you then add a load of stuff where you think he's not, and come up with something slightly bizarre that you think is "worse", so I respond again. We agree he was stupid. I'm just not making excuses for him afterwards
It is good business to ruin a young man's international career, yes, that's why they do it. It sells paper. I'm not condoning it, but I am a realist. It happens. Life's not all flowers, sunshine and £200k-a-week deals. Simply stating a fact is not defending the tabloid press. We all know what they are, and you're in denial if you don't accept that.
guiltyparty
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You're talking as if The Mirror has morals. To come from that start point is to be setting off on the wrong foot
From their point of view, this is a total win. They have done nothing illegal, also – in an age when newspapers seem to do illegal stuff for fun, quite some feat. Yet you're very quick to defend Kyle for his not-illegal behaviour, but quite want to stick one into the Mirror, for it's not-illegal behaviour too.
It's a perplexing one. The Mirror is a nasty rag. Kyle was stupid. I'm a realist
guiltyparty
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I shudder to think what a Spurs player could be found guilty of and still be defended by some Spurs fans
We like to rip the piss out of Chelsea fans for defending Terry or Liverpool fans for defending Suarez, but our lot have it in them, too. All fans are the same, you take the rough with the smooth
We like to rip the piss out of Chelsea fans for defending Terry or Liverpool fans for defending Suarez, but our lot have it in them, too. All fans are the same, you take the rough with the smooth
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