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Southampton search for new boss as Spurs close in on Pochettino

CrazyHeart

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what makes you thing FDB doesn't have something to prove.

I'm still swaying with FDB, he has experience in getting the best out of eriksen and could also prove to be the deciding factor to keeping hold of vertonghen. those two reasons alone are enough for me. thats forgetting the fact that he is a born winner and has won things at both levels of the game

I'd be good with FDB too.. Pochettino is my preference that's all bro.
 

Spur4life

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Who ever takes over we need too make it fast before the World Cup. Get the right man in and buy and sell before preseason starts. Get a group of players playing a formation that they like and start the season with a bang. Maybe buy 1 or 2 players before deadline day.
 

Stopwn

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Chances are Levy is just going with him because he'll be able to converse with lamela and get something out of him to cover up the fact our record signing is too lightweight for premier league at present.
 

Ledley's Right Foot

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I understand what you're saying, but HR had only ever managed relegation fodder or mid table at best, yet he was the most unlikely success we've had in a long time. Some managers just need a break. As others have said, it's a lottery. No guarantees.
Had AVB and Sherwood not happened, we would all most likely be more excited by Poch appointment (if it happens). There are similarities in that they are young, fairly inexperienced, but that does not mean that Poch (or even FdB) are going to end up like our previous 2 appointments.

This. We seem to be in the market for up and coming managers, no one has the foresight to know which of them will do well. I recall Martinez being linked with us before we appointed avb and the consensus here was he was a relegation specialist. How wrong we were. Who, except those who get to meet them, knows which of these has the most potential and who can fit with our philosophy of playing and current crop of players.

Let's face it, It's a really tough job.

Poch has got 3-4 quality players and an average squad performing well and winning the second league. That's quite impressive. His inconsistent results are not surprising in this league.

Fdb has his history of playing and is breaking records in holland. Also impressive.

Who will adapt best to this job? Toss a coin.

Perhaps the one with a clear vision, who best fits our philosophy and who has the character to lead a team full of potential. With the last point being crucial. There's not much between the top teams, the difference can often be the manager who gets his players believing they can win (see the ferguson affect of last season!)

My view is I don't know enough about fdb and Ajax but I have been impressed with how s'ton attack as a team. Lots of movement and positional understanding between their players. something we very clearly lacked last season.
 

CheeseGromit

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This should be on levy's head.
If he fails levy needs to step away.

Note
This post was about people ticking dislike without justifying their comment Not tye above quote

Thats my grump as well
Some just tick disagree and do not give a reason. I usually find it is people who just have a fixed opinion and nothing changes it Some but not all
 

vigospur

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Pochettino hasn't achieved any more than Adkins would have by now... mid table establishment.
You can't have seen as much of Southampton as me (dragged along to a few games by my son-in-law). Believe me that are light years ahead of where Adkins would have got them.
None of their England World Cup players had even been called up by a England when he arrived. Neither had Schneiderlin, now on France stand by. Players love playing for him and they improve. What's not to like?
And by the way I would be happy enough with de Boer. Two top prospects as managers. Is it too much to hope that whoever gets the nod will have the full support of the Club's supporters?
 

CowInAComa

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Pochettino hasn't achieved any more than Adkins would have by now... mid table establishment.

I really don't like the way we keep flitting between whatever flavour of the month manager/fad happens to be around at the time.

Yeah we should have got Van Gaal or Guardiola, cant believe we let Bayern then Utd steal them away.

Perhaps, we can try and tempt Ferguson out of retirement?
 

millsey

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Thats my grump as well
Some just tick disagree and do not give a reason. I usually find it is people who just have a fixed opinion and nothing changes it Some but not all
He owns a huge stake in the club. He's not going to walk away. And why should he. Before he arrived we were lucky to be mid table. Look at us now. What do people want!
 

CheeseGromit

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He owns a huge stake in the club. He's not going to walk away. And why should he. Before he arrived we were lucky to be mid table. Look at us now. What do people want!
Sorry
Check the amended post
i was not commenting on Levy You right he does
We have come quite a distance
I would however add that what people want is to maximise our capability in all areas of the club And why not
 

Greenspur

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Note
This post was about people ticking dislike without justifying their comment Not tye above quote

Thats my grump as well
Some just tick disagree and do not give a reason. I usually find it is people who just have a fixed opinion and nothing changes it Some but not all

I think there's a big difference between the use of 'disagree' and 'dislike'. If you disagree with something that someone is posted, it should be fairly obvious why. An example might be "Levy should step away". People may have an alternative viewpoint, and so 'disagree'.

On the other hand, if I was to write, "I prefer FDB to Poch", then nobody should disagree. Nobody has the right to 'disagree' with what I like. They do, on the other hand, have the right to 'dislike' my choice.

Having said all that, I really don't like the use of the 'dislike' icon. I have seen someone reporting a factual story (e.g. LVG is going to Manchester United) and been given a 'dislike'.
 

EllenAlex

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If this happens, I will feel mega disappointed. Pochettino made Saints a solid mid table side, but I'm not convinced he can do more.

I neither disagree, or agree here, as you just never know. I honestly didn't think Brendan Rodgers could better his time at Swansea, but the vitality of resources plays a huge part in who can surpass their potential, and who can't.

Brendan Rodgers would not have been able to replicate this season; not finishing position, but success of transition, with the resources of Everton.
 

strader

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Honestly its going to be a toss of a coin on this one.

Some say FDB hasn't got PL experience how tino didn't before he went to the saints.

i have argument for and against both however i have kinda swayed towards frank just becos he has that winning experience under his belt. Be it at ajax, that experience and knowledge of winning titles will give that little extra when the team needs a little nudge over the finishing line.

Also tino doesn't speak English "runs for cover, hoping someone has not lost their sense of humour"
 

millsey

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Sorry
Check the amended post
i was not commenting on Levy You right he does
We have come quite a distance
I would however add that what people want is to maximise our capability in all areas of the club And why not
I just think he's doing his best for the club. Unlike a lot of chairmen. He can't get a guaranteed manager,ie Jose,achelotti, van gaal, so he's got to take a chance. Who else is out there? Nearest is Benitez,but he knows majority of fans will moan about that so he can't win
 

slartibartfast

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Er, maybe they disagree with your statement that if it fails levy should stand aside. Maybe we should ask the people who agree with you, why they agree with you. :)

I would've thought someone rating a statement as disagree is fairly clear as to what they are rating.
It took all I have not to give you a disagree rating then lol ;)
 

whitesocks

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Pochettino would make it clear that he expects his Spanish-speaking staff — assistant Jesus Perez, first-team coach Miguel D’Agostino, goalkeeping coach Toni Jimenez and technical support coach Fran Alonso — to move to the capital with him, which would mean a bill of about £4million for Spurs to release the quintet from their contracts.

I dislike him already. He knows nothing about running a club the size of tottenham, yet insists on clearing out all/majority of our senior coaches without even meeting them, to make way for his mates.
It is total arrogance. I would have thought Ramsey, Freund and Parks have enough credibility with the fans to warrant further time. Of course Levy may well have had enough of them all anyway, but this team had us operating at a top 6 level for a couple of years plus good runs in europa, with a multi international squad so they cannot all be rubbish.
The same accusation can be thrown at AVB who sacked the whole team that was getting top 4 finishes - were they all rubbish?
Equally it was wrong to throw Poyet out.
We need continuity and the manager should manager the resources he is given - and assess them and keep the staff that are working well.
Staff being routinely flushed away every few years is part of our pattern of failure imo.
 

slartibartfast

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I dislike him already. He knows nothing about running a club the size of tottenham, yet insists on clearing out all/majority of our senior coaches without even meeting them, to make way for his mates.
It is total arrogance. I would have thought Ramsey, Freund and Parks have enough credibility with the fans to warrant further time. Of course Levy may well have had enough of them all anyway, but this team had us operating at a top 6 level for a couple of years plus good runs in europa, with a multi international squad so they cannot all be rubbish.
The same accusation can be thrown at AVB who sacked the whole team that was getting top 4 finishes - were they all rubbish?
Equally it was wrong to throw Poyet out.
We need continuity and the manager should manager the resources he is given - and assess them and keep the staff that are working well.
Staff being routinely flushed away every few years is part of our pattern of failure imo.
Most managers / coaches bring in their own back room staff.
Nothing surprising here imo.
Jobs for the boys in most cases imo.
 
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