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Mauricio Pochettino accuses Tottenham players of showing lack of passion

DEFchenkOE

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We sold the player who has guts and fight, loved being at spurs as much as we loved him playing for us...Sandro would get them fired up if he was made captain. Even if he has lost some pace, or skill. No worse than Daws. But I can understand Poch. decision, one MF had to go for Benji .. West Brom were up for that game, spurs were not..cos some players mentally, were still travelling back from Belgrade, and some were on their days off..!

Levy has to get a sports physiologist to sort out these players mental attitudes, wake them up..

Sandro is always injured, has played like 1 game for QPR. Maybe that was the main factor for the sale.
 

whitesocks

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Sorry, mate. Have to disagree there. Any talk of a takeover is premature and anyway, it should have zero impact on player morale, the dressing room psyche and on-field performance. That's just an excuse - and yesterday's performance was inexcusable.

The talk may be premature but the tabloids are full of the take over and match commentators ramble on about it all the same. As we do.

The players know that Levy rated them to buy them in the first place, and that must give them some comfort. So if he is leaving, that very much affects their career prospects at spurs.

But no, I did not mean that this is a valid excuse, but today's highly strung multimillionaire players only care for themselves.
They'll throw a hissy fit if their socks are inside out, let alone something potentially as significant as this.
 

ackie

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Don't turn your anger on to the most successful manager Spurs have had since Nicholson.
Even if, as it seems to be fashionable on this site.......you see, you say nothing original and just prove you are a follower with not much to say about anything.
Mate, I'm not for or against Levy or Harry. Levy has done many good and made very bad decisions. Harry's time was good football and CL. He did many good and many bad too. I just don't want to always go back in time when we have poor results!
We are ALL disappointed and angry about yesterday but IMO yesterday's defeat had nothing to do with Levy.
 

JoeT

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Mate, I'm not for or against Levy or Harry. Levy has done many good and made very bad decisions. Harry's time was good football and CL. He did many good and many bad too. I just don't want to always go back in time when we have poor results!
We are ALL disappointed and angry about yesterday but IMO yesterday's defeat had nothing to do with Levy.
How can you say that you are not against Harry when you post expressly, and only, about his failures...using insulting language like "pimping himself"? Now you have brought Daniel Levy into your follow-up post....why I don't know?
And yes, I do get angry....when so many people on here, continually personally insult past Manager Harry Redknapp over and over.
I think the man talked way too much but, we all watched his, and our team perform as one of the most free-flowing teams in the Prem., and got results...don't forget that.
 
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Khilari

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We played badly. We have a new manager, again. The vast majority here wanted Sherwood sacked. A significant number wanted AVB sacked. Our players are adapting to new training, tactics and direction. Pochettino is not a miracle worker, few people are.

Like most teams in the league, we have lost a game we were expected to win. Liverpool did it. Man city did it.

To those "questioning Poch" after a few poor performances, I fear you are the very sterotype that Spurs fans get labelled with. Impatient moaners with an entitlement syndrome. Get a grip.

We are going to have to be patient. It seems Sir Alex Ferguson finished 11th, 2nd, 11th, 13th in his first four years in charge.

Be patient and enjoy Tottenham for when we play to our potential. Grumble when we don't, but to expect us to win every time we are expected to is a little unfair.
 

bigspurs

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So depressing to be writing off the season before it starts, but this may turn out to be a sensible thing to do, rather than getting all worked up about it. If this is what it takes for Poch to get his players in and the deadwood out, then so be it. I'd rather stick with Poch and give him a few seasons before I make any final judgment on him. So in the mean time it's all a WIP...
 

ackie

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How can you say that you are not against Harry when you post expressly, and only, about his failures...using insulting language like "pimping himself"? Now you have brought Daniel Levy into your follow-up post....why I don't know?
And yes, I do get angry....when so many people on here, continually personally insult past Manager Harry Redknapp over and over.
I think the man talked way too much but, we all watched his, and our team perform as one of the most free-flowing teams in the Prem., and got results...don't forget that.
Joe, do me a favor mate...just calm down!
Let's not take yesterday's poor show and defeat on each other...
 

Lucky22

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For me it all steams from a lack of action in the forward line. Ade just hasn't looked up to it and we need to see more from Lamela and Erickson moving forward. We also need to have a Plan B, which we lack.
 

Main Man

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Whether we play West Brom or Liverpool, our play is the same - slow and ponderous. It has nothing to do with the opposition, and Poch has to shoulder just as much responsibility as the players, if not more.

You guys can tell me as much as you want about Poch's pressing game but the simple fact is we are playing in exactly the same fashion and style as AVB's reign - yet AVB was more successful with it.

Performance wise, our start to this season has been disastrous.

We've gone backwards from Sherwood - he was producing better performances and results with by and large the same set of players.

This is quite simply unacceptable and this time next week I wouldn't be surprised if we were out of the Carling Cup and looking for a new manager after a disastrous North London derby.
 

myhartlane

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Spot on. The team looked complacent from the off, but selecting Kaboul and Vlad seemed to suggest that WBA would be no threat and we could save Vertonghen and whoever else for the Emirates.

I don't necessarily have a problem with the logic behind that decision. It's up to the players selected to step up to the plate and perform to the level expected of them.
 

myhartlane

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Whether we play West Brom or Liverpool, our play is the same - slow and ponderous. It has nothing to do with the opposition, and Poch has to shoulder just as much responsibility as the players, if not more.

You guys can tell me as much as you want about Poch's pressing game but the simple fact is we are playing in exactly the same fashion and style as AVB's reign - yet AVB was more successful with it.

Performance wise, our start to this season has been disastrous.

We've gone backwards from Sherwood - he was producing better performances and results with by and large the same set of players.

This is quite simply unacceptable and this time next week I wouldn't be surprised if we were out of the Carling Cup and looking for a new manager after a disastrous North London derby.

I'd be interested to know how you think changing the manager under those circumstances would be a good thing. Also who you think would be an alternative to the current manager.
 

Main Man

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I'd be interested to know how you think changing the manager under those circumstances would be a good thing. Also who you think would be an alternative to the current manager.

I dont necessarily think it is a good thing.

I would have kept AVB in charge. The football wasn't like it was under Harry, but he got the maximum out of the squad.

I didn't want Sherwood, he sounded clueless everytime he spoke, but you can't argue with his results or his performances really so I wouldn't have got rid of him either.

But this guy has struck me as clueless from day one, and he is living up to my pre-judgement more and more each game.

I'd get Tony Pulis in - in a heartbeat.

Give him a contract until the end of the season - he would soon weed out the problems that's for sure.
 

Shirtfront

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I dont necessarily think it is a good thing.

I would have kept AVB in charge. The football wasn't like it was under Harry, but he got the maximum out of the squad.

I didn't want Sherwood, he sounded clueless everytime he spoke, but you can't argue with his results or his performances really so I wouldn't have got rid of him either.

But this guy has struck me as clueless from day one, and he is living up to my pre-judgement more and more each game.

I'd get Tony Pulis in - in a heartbeat.

Give him a contract until the end of the season - he would soon weed out the problems that's for sure.

I am genuinely curious. Is this a wind up, or are you actually in favour of firing MP already and appointing Tony Pulis?

Either way: man that's dark.
 

yiddopaul

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Supported Spurs since the early 80s. Complacency has always been a problem with us. Bar a few good seasons.
 

myhartlane

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I dont necessarily think it is a good thing.

I would have kept AVB in charge. The football wasn't like it was under Harry, but he got the maximum out of the squad.

I didn't want Sherwood, he sounded clueless everytime he spoke, but you can't argue with his results or his performances really so I wouldn't have got rid of him either.

But this guy has struck me as clueless from day one, and he is living up to my pre-judgement more and more each game.

I'd get Tony Pulis in - in a heartbeat.

Give him a contract until the end of the season - he would soon weed out the problems that's for sure.

Fair enough, I agree with you about AVB and also Sherwood.
 

Lighty64

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How can you say that you are not against Harry when you post expressly, and only, about his failures...using insulting language like "pimping himself"? Now you have brought Daniel Levy into your follow-up post....why I don't know?
And yes, I do get angry....when so many people on here, continually personally insult past Manager Harry Redknapp over and over.
I think the man talked way too much but, we all watched his, and our team perform as one of the most free-flowing teams in the Prem., and got results...don't forget that.

Can't be asked to find the post in which you stated our most successful manager since Sir Billy Nic, but your obviously forgetting Keith Birkenshaw. Even the team he took down for 1 season had more passion than the footballers of today.
 
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Don't turn your anger on to the most successful manager Spurs have had since Nicholson.
Even if, as it seems to be fashionable on this site.......you see, you say nothing original and just prove you are a follower with not much to say about anything.

Just. Not. True. Unless we have totally different ways of measuring success (trophies, league placings, etc).
 

Dennism

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Our players do show a lack of passion. Why? Is it that they genuinely do not care? Are were just recruiting the wrong type of player? I am sick of it. Players at lower level teams like Leicester have players willing to die for the cause. The successful teams also have this and are able to buy players with character. The likes of Paulinho are a disgrace and we need to ditch them as soon as possible. Do they just join for the money and the bright lights of London? We need to link their wages to results and then they may break sweat. A whole change of attitude is needed in that bunch of underachieving losers. I just hope that Poch is able to bring it about.
 
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