Soldado is at breaking point but the supporters won't give up on him
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guate
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I am extremely impressed with the Spurs faithful and their continued support of Roberto Soldado. Like many others I believe that once a few start going in he'll regain his confidence but until then his link up play is second to none.
Pat on the back to Mauricio for sticking with him and to all the Spurs supporters who believe in him.
Pat on the back to Mauricio for sticking with him and to all the Spurs supporters who believe in him.
mil1lion
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I think any striker that tries hard and shows good commitment deserves the backing of the fans. Afterall that's why we're called supporters. It is true that we are harsher on some players more than others though. I guess it's also their personality that wins over fans. In the case of Bobby it seems like he's a bit of a cult hero a bit ike Freund was. Not a lot in it as far as goals are concerned either
Gaz_Gammon
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What did we buy him for?
A non scoring striker cannot be the way forward if we are to reach CL qualification. I mean if Kane gets injured i guess you'd still be happy to play Soldado.
I'm as sorry for him as the next guy but Pav, Rebrov, and Bent to name just three were got rid for the exact same situation that we find ourselves in with Soldado, and thats the players inability to put the ball in the back of the net.
He should be held accountable for that reason above anything else that he does on the pitch. Nothing more and nothing less.
WalkerboyUK
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Joke of an article when they can't get their facts of the miss right:
"Spurs trailed Burnley 2-1 in the FA Cup and Soldado, not for the first time, had missed a sitter. With the goal gaping, the Spaniard blazed Townsend's on a plate cross into the stands from five yards out. It was no exaggeration to say it was easier to score."
BLAZED it into the stands?! A more accurate statement would be that he hit the bar.
"Spurs trailed Burnley 2-1 in the FA Cup and Soldado, not for the first time, had missed a sitter. With the goal gaping, the Spaniard blazed Townsend's on a plate cross into the stands from five yards out. It was no exaggeration to say it was easier to score."
BLAZED it into the stands?! A more accurate statement would be that he hit the bar.
minesadouble
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I would like to see Soldado given time in the 3 behind Kane, probably on the right, with Eriksen and Chadli (or Lamela, Townsend) on the left. He has the creative ability, passing, pressing, and all round game to do the job, at least as an experiment. The advantage is that he would still get scoring chances but Kane would be the focus of attention. If Soldado took a couple of chances he'd then have a chance of being rehabilitated as a main striker. It might not come off but I don't think Lamela and Townsend or Lennon are so perfect on the right that the idea's not worth trying as a means to get more value from our £26m (or whatever) investment.
deadlight
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Well done Gaz - at last, someone gets it!
Yes - Bobby is a top bloke. Yes, the fans love him.; Yes, his link-up play, his intelligence, his unselfishness, his skill, etc. is unquestionable; but without being able to regularly put the ball into the back of the net, he's next to useless. (OK, so he's help set up a few goals, but that's not the same thing).
Gaz_Gammon
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At the expense of who? Eriksen, Chadli (our second top scorer) or Lamela.
It's all very well saying where Soldado should play, but plain stupid to try and justify his place in the team at the expense of another proven player just out of sentimentality. He's not bloody scoring, fact. He does not deserve to take another players place just because of that.
WalkerboyUK
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But..... We have paid/are paying £30 million for Lamela, who's intelligence is questionable, is anything but unselfish, link-up play is poor because of his selfishneess, and assist ratio isn't great and may score a goal every now and then.....
In all seriousness though, Soldado is NOT the man to cover for Kane should an injury occur. Doing so would just make us more reliant on the midfielders getting goals.
I wouldn't cut him loose now though, but would let him go in the Summer.
minesadouble
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Gaz,
Sorry if my post wasn't clear. I implied at the expense of Lamela. I said Eriksen and Chadli would play central and left but in my opinion neither Lamela nor Townsend (nor Lennon) is currently so good on the right that it's not worth trying Soldado there properly. It's not sentimentality. You imply Lamela is "proven" in that role but is he really? We all want Lamela to succeed as much as we want Soldado to. But I think Lamela's one-footedness and positional awareness still need a lot of work, to go with his undoubted talent. Trying Soldado there would have 2 chances of success: either he'd prove surprisingly good in the role or he'd rediscover his scoring touch. Of course, you may well be right and it might not work, but I don't think it's plain stupid.
Sorry if my post wasn't clear. I implied at the expense of Lamela. I said Eriksen and Chadli would play central and left but in my opinion neither Lamela nor Townsend (nor Lennon) is currently so good on the right that it's not worth trying Soldado there properly. It's not sentimentality. You imply Lamela is "proven" in that role but is he really? We all want Lamela to succeed as much as we want Soldado to. But I think Lamela's one-footedness and positional awareness still need a lot of work, to go with his undoubted talent. Trying Soldado there would have 2 chances of success: either he'd prove surprisingly good in the role or he'd rediscover his scoring touch. Of course, you may well be right and it might not work, but I don't think it's plain stupid.
Gaz_Gammon
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O.K.
So where is the salary space to be made to provide an option to Kane? Ade will not move so that leaves Soldado as the only option to free up money to buy another player who can offer us more in the scoring department.
I mean would you play Mason, or Rose up front and drop Soldado to left back or midfield just to accommodate him?
To be brutal and honest, if i were a fringe player (like Kane and Mason were) i'd be well pissed if the first team played a striker week after week who was not scoring. What hope do they have in breaking through into the first team like Kane did?
You have to look at the bigger picture, and the Club did do when it came to off loading Pav, Bent and Rebrov. We simply cannot rely (and NO top four side does) in a single striker to supply all the goals. At the moment this is where we find ourselves.
Geyzer Soze
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Because he always seems to give 100% effort as opposed to those you mention who didn't appear to I guess
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The fundamental difference between Soldado and those in the past such as Pav and Bent is he is a proven top class striker.
Now for whatever reason his confidence is low and he cant seem to get out of this hole but if/when he does he could be one of the best we've had in an age.
That is why he's being granted more time than normal.
It doesn't help that on the rare occasion he does find the net he then finds himself on the bench again next match. 3 times that's happened that I can remember.
I'm no psychologist but I would think that doesn't really do much to help someone low on confidence. Not the way to show you have confidence in a player and if you dont show confidence in him hows that going to improve his self confidence?
You can see in his general play he is one of the most skilful creative players we have.
Ive changed my mind on this one and think we should stick with him.
Play him every cup game and when he scores PLAY HIM FFS in the next league game, even if it puts 3pts at stake because if he can get back on form, and thats the thing here isnt it, back on form NOT come good, then we'll have one of the best goal scorers in the league... Oops my bad.... two of the best goal scorers
Now for whatever reason his confidence is low and he cant seem to get out of this hole but if/when he does he could be one of the best we've had in an age.
That is why he's being granted more time than normal.
It doesn't help that on the rare occasion he does find the net he then finds himself on the bench again next match. 3 times that's happened that I can remember.
I'm no psychologist but I would think that doesn't really do much to help someone low on confidence. Not the way to show you have confidence in a player and if you dont show confidence in him hows that going to improve his self confidence?
You can see in his general play he is one of the most skilful creative players we have.
Ive changed my mind on this one and think we should stick with him.
Play him every cup game and when he scores PLAY HIM FFS in the next league game, even if it puts 3pts at stake because if he can get back on form, and thats the thing here isnt it, back on form NOT come good, then we'll have one of the best goal scorers in the league... Oops my bad.... two of the best goal scorers
Gaz_Gammon
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But despite all his huffing, and puffing he's not bloody scoring. Face the truth, he's failed in his job description and that is to score goals. It's interesting to see how SC members want to carry a player on the team who is failing miserably at the job he's paid to do just because he appears to run about a fucking bit as Harry would say.
He hasnt scored goals, so he's failed in that aspect. But the job description of a striker is more than just scoring goals. It's also to create goal scoring opportunities for either himself and/or others. He has done that. He also gets on with his job, doesnt sulk and doesnt cause trouble.
If you're going to give me a choice between carrying on with him or carrying on with Ade, I am choosing Soldado 12 times out of 10.
Geyzer Soze
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yeah, sure, i don't disagree. But fact remains it's probably how he keeps the fans onsides whereas Pav, Bent and Crouch didn't. Well, i guess Crouchy did.
Point is that is not all Saldado's fault. He's a top class striker in a slower league that stresses refinement and technicality and less on physical power. In other words, he is ill suited to the EPL. Baldindi, Levy, or whoever is instrumental in paying £27M for him is guilty of bad judgement, pure and simple.
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Totally Agree with above. I like him as much as anyone but its not a personality contest.He's here to produce and he has'nt done it FACT.
Similar to Defoe he would get slated also and still does,but he still produced goals more consistently and probally will continue to. Baffling!
deadlight
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But surely, at 21, is still 'finding his game'', no? I can't cut that much slack to Soldado, at 29.
diamondlight
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My theory: like Torres, he's a sensitive soul, and he doesn't like English culture, which is crass and aggressive. He probably wishes he'd never come here, is upset by Tottenham fans who hurl abuse from the stands (not necessarily at him, but at any player), and feels like he can't be himself on or off the pitch. When you don't feel comfortable in your skin, you don't perform - simple as that.
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