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longtimespur

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He played and so did Dembele for Fulham so they're both cup-tied.
Seems strange if, as it would appear, we're looking for a player to rest Kane in other competitions
 

newbie

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That's not the way the management is looking at it. Multiple quotes from Pochettino have reconfirmed that he does not want to sign a second striker (or any other position) unless it is someone whom he wants for the long term. He has been explicit to the point of being blunt (for him) that we will either sign a player he wants or we will persevere with what we have.

You can worry as much as you like. You can disagree with it. But do not confuse it with negligence or laziness. It is a calculated policy.

And it is backed up with his previous practice. Fazio, Stambouli and Yedlin were all signed in Summer 2014, after Pochettino had been appointed and presumably with his tacit approval. On closer inspection, he found that he didn't like them as footballers and he didn't play them.

If we sign a striker who isn't on his wanted list, he won't play them, even if it costs us results in the short term.

I don't get what he sees in Berahino. I've only watched him play a few times and he seems to be a slightly inferior Defoe-style player to me, certainly nothing like the backup no. 9 that I would like us to sign. But Pochettino has turned Eric Dier into a pretty convincing defensive midfielder in short order, as well as turning Erik Lamela into a tough-tackling all-round midfielder. And he appears to have had Walker on a special diet of brain-food as well. I'd rather trust his judgment until he fucks a couple of those bits of man-management up.

I agree with what you have said but I don't know how much poch wanted Faziio and Benji or how much our primary targets and secondary targets were not coming to us so we took a punt. He didn't have long to assess his squad and youth signings are hard to really know who is to blame. I think Yedlin was a gamble / pr excersise.

Hopefully our crazy money ball policy of selling and signing loads of players so every year our starting 11 is vastly different from the year before has stopped. Listening to his interviews poch seems to have a plan and wants only the right player, I have reservations about SB due his attitude I hope it's the situation rather than him. Tbf I have not really watch him play enough, to know if he will fit in to our system. I thought bent eke would be a good signing but hey that looks to have been a stupid assumption, so what do I know.
 

Lighty64

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Find it strange that if we've been in constant contact with WB trying to get this done that they played him today.

most probably a case of Peace making sure if he is going to buckle he would fuck us over by making him cup tied
 

squirrel

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How many times have we lost leads this season. Having someone with some pace who can play on the shoulder like Berahino to bring on when the other team pushing forward will allow us to exploit the space behind their defence which we don't currently seem able to do
He always look to get behind defenders, a player like this would make a hell of a positive difference to our attack,
either starting or for impact, don't see his temperament being an issue,if it happens he knows its a step up, im sure
he already knows what pochettino expects from him.
 

Parkie

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He played and so did Dembele for Fulham so they're both cup-tied.
Seems strange if, as it would appear, we're looking for a player to rest Kane in other competitions
They started with him on the bench - put him on when it wasn't looking good for them. If WBA had been two up, pretty sure he'd have stayed on the bench.
 

spurs9

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Our average squad age is 23.3. Berahino is 23.5. About average
No our Ave squad age is slightly over 24 an Berahino is 22 not 23. You can't be over the Ave age of the squad if there are only 4 players younger and 4 players the same age unless you only had 12 players.
 

gpatrick

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No our Ave squad age is slightly over 24 an Berahino is 22 not 23. You can't be over the Ave age of the squad if there are only 4 players younger and 4 players the same age unless you only had 12 players.

Math tells us that you can be both the second youngest player on a squad and older than the average age of the squad....
 

thebetamaxboy

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How many times have we lost leads this season. Having someone with some pace who can play on the shoulder like Berahino to bring on when the other team pushing forward will allow us to exploit the space behind their defence which we don't currently seem able to do

Late in the game of Kane is tiring he could be subbed for SB or maybe even drop back into Eriksen role and let the him run them ragged?
 

eViL

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Late in the game of Kane is tiring he could be subbed for SB or maybe even drop back into Eriksen role and let the him run them ragged?

Maybe if the other 3 forwards perhaps started giving Kane the ball in decent positions he wouldn't have to run so much..
 

Tonif

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Why are we looking for back up to Kane?
Why should we not buy someone to compete for his position?
Every other player has someone to compete with and are the better for it.
Just putting out there.
 

tiger666

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Why are we looking for back up to Kane?
Why should we not buy someone to compete for his position?
Every other player has someone to compete with and are the better for it.
Just putting out there.

If you can find a striker of Kane quality who we can afford, pay his wages and who would want to join us, knock yourself out in here:

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/kane-back-up.122860/page-16#post-4900378

Oh and also the club would be willing to sell in Jan..
 
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millsey

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Why are we looking for back up to Kane?
Why should we not buy someone to compete for his position?
Every other player has someone to compete with and are the better for it.
Just putting out there.
If you've got any ideas please share
 

thinktank

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All you know is what Pulis and the Press are pushing. Not the actual facts.

There's been itk from a couple of members on here who have links to WB (forgot which threads, maybe someone else can point you to them).

Sounded plausible to me, but I'm sure everyone will make their own minds up.

Stuck my head in here and it's all going off...

Seems the argument is about pre-judging him and whether we believe what we hear about him and the quality of such info. As someone who has posted a snippet of info previously in the thread I make no apologies. The info I got about him being a pain in the arse, and that this isn't isolated and goes back to prior breaking in to the first team, was from a player. I'd say that's a pretty well placed source/opinion and worth passing on. Up to others how they then judge him on all the evidence available. As I've said, if Poch wants him at a doable price for the club then you have to back him, but the couple of things I have heard don't really add up to a glowing reference character-wise and I haven't got a problem stating that...


@Stoof ^^^^^^^^^^^

Someone else had some itk in the same vein as well, can't remember who.
 

nedley

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If you can find a striker of Kane quality who we can afford, pay his wages and who would want to join us, knock yourself out in here:

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/kane-back-up.122860/page-16#post-4900378

Oh and also the club would be willing to sell in Jan..

I don't think thats the point some are making.

I think everybody would agree with what you are saying. It's difficult or near impossible to buy that standard of striker that could come in and compete with Kane. However we should want and endeavour to do all we can to bring in this type of player...a Lacazette, a Embolo, a Lukaku.

Obviously we hope a player that is brought in is wanted by Poch and the most obvious scenario is that a stop-gap or younger player with less experience is brought in.

The point some including myself is making is that we shouldn't be taking our eyes off these top tier players just so Kane has a free reign upfront.

We should be doing all we can to find competition for Kane rather than cover.
 

Ledleys Knee

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Why are we looking for back up to Kane?
Why should we not buy someone to compete for his position?
Every other player has someone to compete with and are the better for it.
Just putting out there.

Because Kane's one of the best #9s in Europe

We don't have competition for Lloris or Alder either (Vorm and Wimmer), because they are too damn good too
 
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