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Nigel Spinal

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I firmly believe that should Townsend imminently depart, that cash influx will be the catalyst for a striker coming in.
Just the way Levy seems to work, books never get too far out of balance.
ITK suggesting Townsend is about to be gone, frees up wages, opens up a squad place, and provides us with cash. All
to be reallocated to a new striker, some time soon hopefully.

I agree we will balance the books (as always).

However I don't think Townsend leaving will be a stimulus for a forward coming in. More likely there's just no one available who we fancy (this is January after all).

Perhaps Fulham just fancy a tribunal decision on Dembele, rather than banking £5m, and we'll wait for the summer for him? Or the Ramirez buy-back issue still isn't resolving itself? Etc.
 

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Not really. We've actually steadily improved since we moved from £20m annual net spend to zero net spend in 2008. It has made us focus on organic and sustained growth, rather than short-termism

It has also led us to a squad with ONE striker.

The focus on organic growth as you call it has had its benefits. But now is the time to invest - not by splurging gazillions on star names but by focussing on one key position and by bringing in quality - even if it costs 20-30 million...
 

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Going based on the ITK stating that "we don't want to bring in anyone that won't improve us" is getting frustrating. If that really is the position of the club then whilst I understand the premise, I don't agree with it.

The reality is that when you only have 1 striker, adding another will ONLY improve us. It certainly can't make us any worse! I'm not suggesting we go and get another Rasiak but if there is an issue signing a player like Berahino or another that we REALLY want, then we have to be smarter about it, use the scouting network and find a player that can help us and take the burden off of Kane. Find an experienced, savvy veteran player that knows where the net is and can spell Kane in key moments. It will nark a few to say this I'm sure but if he had been available then a player like Jermain Defoe would be ideal right now. We know he can score and he's a different prospect to Kane and we can get him in for 6 months and nothing more.

The bottom line is that we are risking our entire season on the health and form of one striker because if we're stubborn about this, don't sign anyone and Kane goes down in February then we can pretty much kiss goodbye to the top 4.

This isn't a knee jerk reaction to last night's defeat. If Kane's effort hits the bar and goes in then we win that game but it doesn't change the fact that we have needed another striker all season long.

Agree

We should look to bring in a loan player or two to cover for Kane. If we can't find a player to purchase then this would be the preferred option.
 

JonnySpurs

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The "can't make us worse"-solution we already have in the squad. We have many possible solutions to simply patch up the surface of the flaws and carry on. There is no need to purchase any such solutions, when we are not even playing those second string cards we already hold. I'd be in favour of signing a goal getter who'd slip right into the starting 11, but signing yet another gamble of a back up plan is simply not what the club should be doing anymore.

All these solutions we apparently have....who are they? Son and Chadli aren't sufficient solutions to be a backup striker. Even at the best of times. N'Jie may have been but he's injured long term. The only other options we have are youngsters like Harrison and Coulthirst. I'm happy for them to be tried but we don't seem to be ready to do that.

My point is that whether it's a gamble or not, the worst thing that happens is that the player doesn't score goals, thats it. If it was a loan that we found then no real cost has been laid out so really there is very little gamble to speak of.

As I say, doing nothing is unthinkable in my opinion and whilst I dont want us to sign any old player, surely we have the resources available to us to find an experienced veteran that isn't playing or even someone like Kramaric at Leicester who has big potential and is available to leave.
 

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The last time Levy made a move when we had a good chance at CL was to bring in fucking Saha and Nelsen. And that wasnt the last time we had a chance at CL at this juncture. So has he learned? Nope.

I mean this with the greatest respect, but given that you and the other chap are people that have never in their lives spoken to or met Daniel Levy, I think I am fine to completely ignore and/or mock you when you suggest that he has or hasn't "learned" from something and when you contain not even a minute amount of knowledge on the subject, nor a modicum of ability to look at the bigger picture.
 

Insomnia

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levy & poch out & take fucking Chadli with you while you're there
we want Jenas back
 

slartibartfast

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I mean, you know none of that to be true.
Yes it is true. We've only got one out and out striker on the books, again!!!
And I said it 'may' cost us.
I didn't say we wont get anyone this window, just we shouldn't have found ourselves in this positon again as this is the 2nd time.
I dont believe thats down to the fact that nobody across the world was available or suitable or that Poch simply didn't want anybody but down to Levy refusing to part with what it would take to get someone suitable.
Poch is saying he wants someone now so either it was a massive oversight on his part by thinking one striker was enough, highly unlikely (fkin hope so or it makes him incompetent), or his hands were tied in the summer.
You can't paint this any other way than a fuck up.
We've now got to go into this window with clubs knowing full well we're desperate and will have to pay over the odds.
Doesn't seem very good business sense to me, especially if we don't bring anyone in and it costs us CL football and all the financial rewards that entails.
I'd be looking at a loan deal at the very least.
To do nothing would be madness.
 

slartibartfast

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I mean this with the greatest respect, but given that you and the other chap are people that have never in their lives spoken to or met Daniel Levy, I think I am fine to completely ignore and/or mock you when you suggest that he has or hasn't "learned" from something and when you contain not even a minute amount of knowledge on the subject, nor a modicum of ability to look at the bigger picture.
Ok. Anybody on here who doesn't personally know Mr Levy please stop making any comments or opinions regarding him.

What makes you think he has learnt given we're in the same position.
Did he tell you?
edit A Spurs birthday card does not count. A 1 to 1 sit down with a cup of tea and minimum of 2 custard creams gets you your opinion of Levy pass.

Just realised you're saying I don't know and have never met Levy. How the fuck do you know that oh wise one? Your right of course but just sayin lol.
 
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Everlasting Seconds

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I mean this with the greatest respect, but given that you and the other chap are people that have never in their lives spoken to or met Daniel Levy, I think I am fine to completely ignore and/or mock you when you suggest that he has or hasn't "learned" from something and when you contain not even a minute amount of knowledge on the subject, nor a modicum of ability to look at the bigger picture.
Come on, what he was expressing was completely within the realms of opinions. Are those opinions correct? Maybe not. Did they warrant a semi-intense moderator attack? Absolutely not.
 

slartibartfast

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Come on, what he was expressing was completely within the realms of opinions. Are those opinions correct? Maybe not. Did they warrant a semi-intense moderator attack? Absolutely not.
No he's right.
Must be. He's an adminstrator.
I'm sure Levy learnt from last time and thought it went so well he'd do it again :confused:
Its ok he thinks Im talking bollocks.
The feeling is mutual.
Someone is to blame for the position we're in reg a striker and I dont think its Poch.

Should add I'm not on a lynch Levy crusade.
I think hes a fantastic chairman and were lucky to have him but this situation is poor to say the least.
 

Real_madyidd

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It has also led us to a squad with ONE striker.

The focus on organic growth as you call it has had its benefits. But now is the time to invest - not by splurging gazillions on star names but by focussing on one key position and by bringing in quality - even if it costs 20-30 million...


Who? Lamela played the furthest up yesterday, is it him? Is it Son? Is it Clinton? Chadli?

Who is this one striker? - I am going to guess you mean Kane as he has the weight of the world on his shoulders, but he isn't the only striker at the club.
 

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Semi intense moderator attack

I'm laid up on my sofa suffering from a severe attack of man flu and reading that induced a frenzy of laughter, coughing, snot bubbles and hyena calls, resulting in several painful ribs and cramp in my left bollock twitcher muscle.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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I'm very much against this approach voiced in this thread today by so many. "Let's just do something, there is no risk, can't be worse than not scoring anyway". It is indeed a very reactive way of acting, if that makes sense. We should be bolder and more decisive, not just be ready to accept that "Oh, at least we tried".

Either we buy somebody who is a long term interesting fit for this squad, especially also for next season, and we make that happen, or we stick with what we've got for now. Who cares about getting some old, one-legged pirate who maybe knew how to score at one point. Might as well buy Defoe for crying out loud, wasn't he the top scorer in the last round.
:wtf:
 
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