agree its not about effort, its ability, totally outclassedThe players did. They were just the wrong players.
Precisely.. To think Hoffenheim did score against them.. We did shit nothingAs bad as we were, we would've gotten the away goal had it not been for that awful decision.
Because as good as they are going forward their defence looked nothing special. Now it's 3-0 and it's gone.
Mason has stopped doing all the things he was good at, surging forward runs, shots from the edge of the box etc.. but hes become a boring nothing player just doing the basics very poorly.
Come on.. Onomah shouldn't be paying the whole match.. The blame can't be entirely on Carroll and Mason.. Geez
Any chance they'll think it's job done and rest/become complacent 2nd leg?
I think we go into that game thinking it's a one off and just play the way we know we can. Forget 3-0 tonight. Just win the game at the Lane. If we somehow get an early goal or not, please whoever goes (myself included) support the boys. Give Dortmund the atmosphere they want to experience. Strongest side possible next week please Poch. Show them that we are capable of beating them!
What was your response?
Have you ever heard of the saying "hindsight is 20/20"? I am pretty sure that if he knew this would be our draw that he would have handled things differently up to now. Hell, if he knew we would have BVB next before we played fiorentina he probably would have handled that tie differently. But you know what...he didn't. So you play the game in front of you.If he's putting out that team against one of Europe's best, why bother even getting through group stages. Would have been safer putting youth out from start. That result tonight does nothing for confidence.
The whole tie is over by the looks of it yes, but an early goal and who knows? All I'm saying is just go out there to win the game itself. Show them we can beat them if we bother to play.It will be like the Real Madrid second leg in the CL. I was there and it was a complete waste of time. Everyone knew the tie was over. I saw kaka though, that was awesome he was head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch.
For me, this is the first time Poch has 'blinked'
He has realised a lot of players are running on empty and realistically couldn't sustain a challenge on two fronts.
I think for all intents and purposes he wanted to do what we did to Fiorentina, keep it tight away with a weakened team, then make a real match of it in the home tie with all the big guns out.
Although it worked well then, this was superior opposition and the whole approach felt very que sera sera, with us putting an even weaker side out than previously.
Most of all, I think what probably made Poch's mind up were the poor results against West Ham and Arsenal... If we had won them I wouldn't have actually been surprised to see a strong side fielded tonight. Our title challenge isn't look as healthy as it was a week or so ago and our top 4 position is far from cemented.
Fingers crossed we look back at this decision come May and praise it, it may be that we had to sacrifice this to keep the players from completely burning out... We only ever know half the story as fans.