Chelsea sign Michy Batshuayi

worcestersauce · Jun 30, 2016

AUSpur said:
Right. Just pointing out we aren't the only club with Belgians. He may be closer to Hazard than our guys.

Our Belgians are Flemish Belgians their Belgians might be Walloon Belgians, I don't know if that is important to him as I don't know which Belgians are his Belgians and not many sentences have six Belgians in it, shit, seven Belgians in it, shit eight oh bugger it you know what I mean.

cliff jones · Jun 30, 2016

FreddieYid said:
I didn't edit to make myself laugh, I pulled him out because he was the one I wanted to make the point about...

It's not about Poch motivating him, it's about him being a really bad fit for the way we play, which I'm assuming you can clearly see, given you have watched both him and us play a lot. He doesn't suit the bindippers either, which is a big part of why he's been shit.

He's got West Ham written all over him as soon as they stop kidding themselves.

Point made. Twice. I know he dont make intelligent runs or exactly press his bollox off. Some believe Poch can motivate and educate a stone however...

Any views on the others? Who would you like, who you think Levy would fund/could get?

WorcesterTHFC · Jun 30, 2016

worcestersauce said:
Our Belgians are Flemish Belgians their Belgians might be Walloon Belgians, I don't know if that is important to him as I don't know which Belgians are his Belgians and not many sentences have six Belgians in it, shit, seven Belgians in it, shit eight oh bugger it you know what I mean.

Hazard was born and raised in a Walloon province, Hainaut, but Courtois was born and raised in a Flemish province, Limburg, although his name would suggest a French-speaking background. Batshuayi's parents came from DR Congo (previously Zaire), a francophone country. Maybe Batshuayi is closer to the francophone Belgians than he is to the Dutch-speakers. Personally, I think he's just following the money.

WalkerboyUK · Jun 30, 2016

cliff jones said:
Point made. Twice. I know he dont make intelligent runs or exactly press his bollox off. Some believe Poch can motivate and educate a stone however...

Any views on the others? Who would you like, who you think Levy would fund/could get?

Presumably that means Townsend is even lower down the evolutionary chain than a stone!

THFCSPURS19 · Jun 30, 2016

cliff jones said:
dont act the twat. Just give your own opinion.

Why are the two weve been linked with better than these?

Go on.

Sure.

Diafra Sakho is incredibly average. Most West Ham fans seem to want him gone, and we're in trouble if a West Ham reject is our back-up for Kane. There's a reason Sunderland seems to be his next club.

Callum Wilson is actually a player I wouldn't mind- but it's too risky at the moment because of his injury.

Ighalo had a torrid second half of last season- and we want players who have been in-form.

Shane Long is 29. We should be aiming for long-term signings, not someone who's only going to be here for a season or two. He also relies on pace, and that will probably disappear soon.

Pelle turns 31 next month.

Liverpool want to £30m for Benteke- he's incredibly frustrating, and doesn't have the work rate.

You say that 'We need to buy a striker who can lead the line on his own, given the system we play. and he must have presence, pace and hold up play to allow us to play the same way when Kane ain't on the pitch'

That literally is a description of Janssen. In fact, he has been compared specifically to Kane by some Netherlands fans/experts. He's known for his work-rate, strength and finishing ability- all attributes that Kane has, although Kane is obviously better in all aspects.

Janssen has age on his side, unlike all of the players (bar Wilson and maybe Benteke) you have listed, so he can only get better.

My main concern about Janssen is that he's 'too' similar to Kane, and therefore may not offer anything different if we're chasing a goal. But it seems you want a Kane replica of sorts- so you should be in favour of the signing of Janssen.

Regarding Sanabria, I hope that if we sign him, it is in addition to Janssen, because I'm not sure he's ready to instantly make an impact, whereas Janssen could IMO.

tiger666 · Jun 30, 2016

aliz on whether bats was first choice: Neither was 1st choice, he had a list of 4.

Jospur · Jun 30, 2016

THFCSPURS19 said:
Sure.

Diafra Sakho is incredibly average. Most West Ham fans seem to want him gone, and we're in trouble if a West Ham reject is our back-up for Kane. There's a reason Sunderland seems to be his next club.

Callum Wilson is actually a player I wouldn't mind- but it's too risky at the moment because of his injury.

Ighalo had a torrid second half of last season- and we want players who have been in-form.

Shane Long is 29. We should be aiming for long-term signings, not someone who's only going to be here for a season or two. He also relies on pace, and that will probably disappear soon.

Pelle turns 31 next month.

Liverpool want to £30m for Benteke- he's incredibly frustrating, and doesn't have the work rate.

You say that 'We need to buy a striker who can lead the line on his own, given the system we play. and he must have presence, pace and hold up play to allow us to play the same way when Kane ain't on the pitch'

That literally is a description of Janssen. In fact, he has been compared specifically to Kane by some Netherlands fans/experts. He's known for his work-rate, strength and finishing ability- all attributes that Kane has, although Kane is obviously better in all aspects.

Janssen has age on his side, unlike all of the players (bar Wilson and maybe Benteke) you have listed, so he can only get better.

My main concern about Janssen is that he's 'too' similar to Kane, and therefore may not offer anything different if we're chasing a goal. But it seems you want a Kane replica of sorts- so you should be in favour of the signing of Janssen.

Regarding Sanabria, I hope that if we sign him, it is in addition to Janssen, because I'm not sure he's ready to instantly make an impact, whereas Janssen could IMO.

The sense I get about Janssen is that he would be a Kane alternative. Batshuayi, on the other hand, could play effectively with Kane as well as being a replacement for him.

Jules77 · Jun 30, 2016

King of Otters said:
If you've been following this nonsense long enough you can tell when something has legs.

With itk it's generally safe to assume that there's no smoke without fire, and there's been a lot of smoke with this one.

You can tell when people want it to have legs. The Sock anyone?

Sarsipius · Jun 30, 2016

If we're going to spend +£30mill on a player this summer I'd rather it went on someone who will dramatically improved the attacking 3 rather than provide competition for our Golden Boot striker.

Janssen looks like he will be perfect 'cover' for H, who has proven he has the ability to be our main man for a good few years.

Bats might have a better all round game and be more athletic attributes but H is one of the best finishers I think the EL has ever seen. He's going to break a lot more records in the years to come.

Having said that, careful acquisition has been the name of the game recently and that kind of money can be very wisely invested across two or maybe 3 more players.

guy · Jun 30, 2016

k33pster said:
Lots of comments on Levy not paying the fee, blah blah blah. Same old "tight Levy" money focused nonsense.

Reality is apparently the fee was north of £30m, allegedly Batman wanted £100k a week. 5 year deal takes the total outlay to £55m. That is before considering agent fees and the wage rises the rest of our squad would then demand to have pay parity.

It is a massive outlay on someone who has talent, but is currently still inconsistent and unproven in PL.

Poch spoke about finding value, being smart, in the transfer market. What is smart about spunking £55m minimum on Bats?

We are spending circa £700m on a stadium. We cannot afford to gamble £50m+ on ONE player.

Mate you could say this a million times and people will still complain that we didn't pay 20% extra trf fee and 50% more wages than we had originally assessed and valued him at.

Bus-Conductor · Jul 1, 2016

THFCSPURS19 said:
Jesus fucking Christ.

Welcome to my - Berahino, Ings & McCarthy - world.

Flashspur · Jul 1, 2016

What are the odds that the Berahino rumours start up again...very soon

cliff jones · Jul 1, 2016

WalkerboyUK said:
Presumably that means Townsend is even lower down the evolutionary chain than a stone!

i see Pardew is gonna have a go. Not sure where he fits into the evolutionary chain either!

cliff jones · Jul 1, 2016

THFCSPURS19 said:
Sure.

Diafra Sakho is incredibly average. Most West Ham fans seem to want him gone, and we're in trouble if a West Ham reject is our back-up for Kane. There's a reason Sunderland seems to be his next club.

Callum Wilson is actually a player I wouldn't mind- but it's too risky at the moment because of his injury.

Ighalo had a torrid second half of last season- and we want players who have been in-form.

Shane Long is 29. We should be aiming for long-term signings, not someone who's only going to be here for a season or two. He also relies on pace, and that will probably disappear soon.

Pelle turns 31 next month.

Liverpool want to £30m for Benteke- he's incredibly frustrating, and doesn't have the work rate.

You say that 'We need to buy a striker who can lead the line on his own, given the system we play. and he must have presence, pace and hold up play to allow us to play the same way when Kane ain't on the pitch'

That literally is a description of Janssen. In fact, he has been compared specifically to Kane by some Netherlands fans/experts. He's known for his work-rate, strength and finishing ability- all attributes that Kane has, although Kane is obviously better in all aspects.

Janssen has age on his side, unlike all of the players (bar Wilson and maybe Benteke) you have listed, so he can only get better.

My main concern about Janssen is that he's 'too' similar to Kane, and therefore may not offer anything different if we're chasing a goal. But it seems you want a Kane replica of sorts- so you should be in favour of the signing of Janssen.

Regarding Sanabria, I hope that if we sign him, it is in addition to Janssen, because I'm not sure he's ready to instantly make an impact, whereas Janssen could IMO.

First three, my top three, agree to completely disagree.

Id prefer the soton boys to the paraguayan bloke, but know levy wouldnt deal given the age factor.

I hope if we do sign janssen your bold statements are true. At what point does he become too expensive and too much of a risk given his inexperience? 20m euros, 25?

Bus-Conductor · Jul 1, 2016

cliff jones said:
First three, my top three, agree to completely disagree.

Id prefer the soton boys to the paraguayan bloke, but know levy wouldnt deal given the age factor.

I hope if we do sign janssen your bold statements are true. At what point does he become too expensive and too much of a risk given his inexperience? 20m euros, 25?

Show me a man who wants Sakho, Shane Long and Pelle and I'll show you a man who's tired of football.

DIEHARD · Jul 1, 2016

Bus-Conductor said:
Show me a man who wants Sakho, Shane Long and Pelle and I'll show you a man who's tired of football.

I'd take Pelle... i like him as a player.

I'm exhausted

cliff jones · Jul 1, 2016

Bus-Conductor said:
Show me a man who wants Sakho, Shane Long and Pelle and I'll show you a man who's tired of football.

they are all good players. Im not above or beyond any of those i listed, and if levy gets played again over janssen some fans will rather choose prem experience above some paraguayan no one heard of till a fortnight back.

Might have recalled in correctly but if you are one of those calling for a back up as opposed to competition for kane then it seems you are either starving yourself of options in ruling these bods out and or bolting one off prematurely on a youth team player.

Ossie85 · Jul 1, 2016

guy said:
Mate you could say this a million times and people will still complain that we didn't pay 20% extra trf fee and 50% more wages than we had originally assessed and valued him at.

You have a point. But you know what's the problem here? That this has happened all the time for the past 3 season. We didn't sign a single striker. Thank God Harry step up.
Maybe we should reassess our values for the players. Strikers always cost more. You can't always get bargains

CoopsieDeadpool · Jul 1, 2016

Everlasting Seconds said:
This is more and more a farce if the number is correct. Maybe they paid off the agent, that's the part of the story we never hear facts about.

Everlasting Seconds said:
Isn't it even more strange though, if Chelsea didn't offer substantially higher salary?

My mate told me that his agent was offered/paid £2mil, but he also said the Chavs offered Bats £150k p/w, twice what we offered him. Still, it's (obviously) not inconceivable that Roman the dodgy Russian offered the agent a nice wedge, just to keep the player out of our hands.

I hate that ****!!

CoopsieDeadpool · Jul 1, 2016

Jospur said:
Maybe some Spurs fans have been reading ITK on here and believing what has been said. Or are you saying that the ITK on Batshuayi has been meaningless and groundless?

Then they're fucking stupid!

How many times has A&C stated in his ITK threads "treat all info with a dose of salt" ??

How many times has Trix told us "the club is working hard, but it's impossible to say how it'll unfold"?

How many times has JJ come on here & told us "look, things change all the time, even when the player is in Levy's office" (think Willian).

Sure, put a bit of faith in what's said, but to believe it as 100% fact, in a landscape that is constantly changing, is downright bloody stupid.

Anyone who takes ITK as gospel, is setting themselves up to be disappointed, as well as constantly filling thread after thread with bullshit protestations about how shit Levy/THFC are at getting players in.

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