New Stadium Details And Discussions

degoose · Jul 12, 2016

i'm really not that happy with how big a gap there is from the crowd to the pitch, i got so use to WHL being really close and i was guessing and it's looking like it that there will be quite some gap now like all modern stadiums.

SandroClegane · Jul 12, 2016

degoose said:
i'm really not that happy with how big a gap there is from the crowd to the pitch, i got so use to WHL being really close and i was guessing and it's looking like it that there will be quite some gap now like all modern stadiums.

they already pushed the limit with that with FIFAPro rules, and still broke them in order to have our pitch closer than others. 6m isn't that bad compared to other stadiums (and especially compared to West Ham).

tottenmal · Jul 12, 2016

SandroClegane said:
they already pushed the limit with that with FIFAPro rules, and still broke them in order to have our pitch closer than others. 6m isn't that bad compared to other stadiums (and especially compared to West Ham).

Yeah, sadly with all the requirements for media and player safety (run off space etc) I think its the best it could be. It's still not bad, and I think when its built it will be special.

It won't match WHL though in that regard.

Giovanni · Jul 13, 2016

I dont think the distance is too bad at all actually overall. If you used the 18yard boxy as a guide and visually flipped it over you would see that a tad more that half the stand behind the goal is covered within that distance...id say thats good going for a stsdium this size!
The acoustics of the ground are much more of an importance.
I wonder what the furthest seat at the library are like compared to this?

degoose · Jul 13, 2016

SandroClegane said:
they already pushed the limit with that with FIFAPro rules, and still broke them in order to have our pitch closer than others. 6m isn't that bad compared to other stadiums (and especially compared to West Ham).

That's a load of space, thank god we don't have a running track.

KingKay · Jul 13, 2016

Probably been mentiond in here before but I think having a pitch with dimensions that suit our style of play will massively help us. Fewer 0-0 struggles against West Brom or last minute sucker punches.

chrissivad · Jul 13, 2016

KingKay said:
Probably been mentiond in here before but I think having a pitch with dimensions that suit our style of play will massively help us. Fewer 0-0 struggles against West Brom or last minute sucker punches.

It might help is break down some teams, but it's also more ground to cover when pressing as well.

KingKay · Jul 13, 2016

chrissivad said:
It might help is break down some teams, but it's also more ground to cover when pressing as well.

True, swings and roundabouts I suppose but i'd still fancy us to outrun / work most teams on our own patch.

Dougal · Jul 13, 2016

So... Is he still up there?

Lilbaz · Jul 13, 2016

degoose said:
i'm really not that happy with how big a gap there is from the crowd to the pitch, i got so use to WHL being really close and i was guessing and it's looking like it that there will be quite some gap now like all modern stadiums.

UEFA rules are part of it.

Hoopspur · Jul 13, 2016

Phischy said:
Ok, so lets compare (with the above picture flipped to be the correct orientation as the one above has been reversed and with sizing matched)...

Old:

New:

New picture is slightly zoomed out, so can see a little more around the edges, so can see the roof bend around in the top left; has also had the colour intensity slightly toned down, which looks a bit more realistic! Interestingly, whoever modified the render obviously was happy with some people (the players) but decided move some of the others around (assistant ref, and subs out warming up) and remove some completely (byline photographers). But other than that the main changes to the design I can see are as follows: -

1. Changes to floodlights
2. Inclusion of skylounge above the floodlights (North end)
3. Roof struts covered all the way around the roof where previously exposed.
4. Design of the glass roof area changed, prominence and size of the supports reduced making the glass area more attractive and subtle.
5. White hoardings across the middle of the 'kop' which were previously blue. This seems to break the kop in two and whilst maybe necessary and indicative of things like the location of the disabled areas, this calls into question whether the stand really is a kop. It may not have one stand overhanging another, but with a clear line of hoardings right through the middle of the stand it would still seem to be separated into two tiers.

So apart from some minor changes, it would seem, having improved the West Stand entrance (although I am not sure I am convinced by the new design and whether it really is better, and think they've missed an opportunity to put something iconic there) the next job on the list was to improve the interior appearance of the roof area, which they definitely have done.

Are they saving money by reducing the carpet surrounding the pitch? Bloody skinflints, cutting corners again!

Phischy · Jul 13, 2016

Hoopspur said:
Are they saving money by reducing the carpet surrounding the pitch? Bloody skinflints, cutting corners again!

Oh yeah, good spot. Bonus points if you can spot another change I didn't mention... has something to do with the assistant referees!

spursfan77 · Jul 13, 2016

FYI. Possibly of interest. It's behind a paywall but should be available somewhere.

http://m.propertyweek.com/5084088.article?mobilesite=enabled&origin=PWweekly

Argent Related will lead a £1bn development of Tottenham Hale in north London that will deliver 800 homes, Haringey Council announced today.

The developer will partner with the council to develop the area around the Tottenham Hale underground and national rail station, which is also a future Crossrail 2 site.

chrissivad · Jul 13, 2016

Dougal said:
So... Is he still up there?

Not up there anymore. He was talked down yesterday afternoon

Hoopspur · Jul 13, 2016

Phischy said:
Oh yeah, good spot. Bonus points if you can spot another change I didn't mention... has something to do with the assistant referees!

Going to be 4? We seem to have 2 up the near end. meanwhile, back to scrutinising....

Phischy · Jul 13, 2016

Hoopspur said:
Going to be 4? We seem to have 2 up the near end. meanwhile, back to scrutinising....

I don't know about 4, but we certainly seem to have too many at this end of the pitch!!

Wine Gum · Jul 13, 2016

spursfan77 said:
FYI. Possibly of interest. It's behind a paywall but should be available somewhere.

http://m.propertyweek.com/5084088.article?mobilesite=enabled&origin=PWweekly

Argent Related will lead a £1bn development of Tottenham Hale in north London that will deliver 800 homes, Haringey Council announced today.

The developer will partner with the council to develop the area around the Tottenham Hale underground and national rail station, which is also a future Crossrail 2 site.

Argent Related will lead a £1bn development of Tottenham Hale in north London that will deliver 800 homes, Haringey council announced today.

The developer will partner with the council to develop the area around the Tottenham Hale underground and national rail station, which is also a future Crossrail 2 site.

Alongside the new homes – which include properties for market sale, build to rent, and affordable units– the developer will deliver new shops, cafes, and restaurants, as well as new community facilities including a health centre.

The council approved plans for the scheme at a cabinet meeting last night.

The scheme is the latest in a string of major development projects planned for the area: Haringey council is still seeking a partner for both the building of 1,400 homes in the High Road West area of North Tottenham, and for a £2bn regeneration project of the Wood Green and Tottenham areas, which will involve 5,000 homes built.

Leader of the council Claire Kober said the scheme would create “thousands of new jobs and new affordable homes”.

“We look forward to working with Argent Related to deliver a thriving new town centre with great places to live, work and shop in the heart of Tottenham Hale.”

Argent partner Robert Evans said he was keen to “move forward quickly into design and delivery.”

He added: “Argent Related is focused on opportunities, like Tottenham Hale, to work with committed local authority partners to transform urban areas and improve the lives of communities with the right housing and workspace provision, social and community facilities, public infrastructure and other investment.”

longtimespur · Jul 13, 2016

DIEHARD · Jul 13, 2016

So thus new stadium is fully sprinklered... now apart from the obvious... what is the fuss? Why highlight it as a particular attribute of the stadium?

dazzle · Jul 13, 2016

DIEHARD said:
So thus new stadium is fully sprinklered... now apart from the obvious... what is the fuss? Why highlight it as a particular attribute of the stadium?

In a traditional stadium, you don't need fire suppression in most of the areas because they are built to be non-flammable (e.g. concrete walls, floors and ceilings - with everything else being hard-surfaced and fire retardant). Therefore most concourses feel like some sort of prison.

As NWHL is gong to be fully sprinklered, we can pimp it up with shagpile carpets and beanbags.

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