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stevensthfc

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So instead of 2 short, we're 1 short and asking Sissoko to be a CM/AM. We've strengthened. But not by much imo. And we've only strengthened because Levy matched a tremendous overpay at the death because Poch was seemingly desperate for the player. Kudos to Levy though for the backing. But maybe next time we can do it earlier in the window and spend the money wisely on a better player? Oh well.

We're still desperately lacking someone to push Eriksen. But we've managed spend ~£80m on 3 right sided players in 4 years, when the first one we purchased has become imperative to our teams success. Shocking business, IMO.

Very meh about this window. Obviosuly not as bad as it could have been but considering we're in Champions Leangue and the best player we could come up with was Moussa Sissoko is disheartening, to say the least. Really wish Isco would have decided to come.

No you cant fault Daniel for trying for these guys. But you can fault Daniel for, yet again, leaving it extremely late to the point where its way too late to find another option. And considering how Isco was apparently supposed to be in addition to Sissoko, its really baffling why we waited so fucking late when obviously the money was available. So frustrating. But its not surprising.

10 people disagree but this is spot on.
 

yankspurs

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So instead of 2 short, we're 1 short and asking Sissoko to be a CM/AM. We've strengthened. But not by much imo. And we've only strengthened because Levy matched a tremendous overpay at the death because Poch was seemingly desperate for the player. Kudos to Levy though for the backing. But maybe next time we can do it earlier in the window and spend the money wisely on a better player? Oh well.

We're still desperately lacking someone to push Eriksen. But we've managed spend ~£80m on 3 right sided players in 4 years, when the first one we purchased has become imperative to our teams success. Shocking business, IMO.

Very meh about this window. Obviosuly not as bad as it could have been but considering we're in Champions Leangue and the best player we could come up with was Moussa Sissoko is disheartening, to say the least. Really wish Isco would have decided to come.

No you cant fault Daniel for trying for these guys. But you can fault Daniel for, yet again, leaving it extremely late to the point where its way too late to find another option. And considering how Isco was apparently supposed to be in addition to Sissoko, its really baffling why we waited so fucking late when obviously the money was available. So frustrating. But its not surprising.
Okay when I said we strengthened, yeah so much for that
 

jonnyp

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I would like to point out that you didn't actually get any neg reps, and some of the 'Doh's and WTFs were in response to saying that someone else's post should get WTFs (that suusally happens).

Ironically, my post in response to yours actually got negged by someone who agrees with you, so you just have to accept it.

I was talking about my first post in this thread which started it all. This is my post which I think was very benign and clearly just my opinion:
Certainly not the worst window but I don't really see how we've improved the starting eleven at this point. Hope I'm completely wrong of course.

Do you think it warrants 4 WTFs and 3 d'ohs? I don't think the other neg-ratings on my follow-up post were because I said that I should neg-rep lukespurs' reply, obviously mostly the same people doubling-down and maybe some more people who discovered they did not like my opinion - after all lukespurs' reply to my first post got 26 agrees, 9 winners and 1 like.

And the fact your response got a spam rating just proves that the posting culture on here has to change. Your post didn't deserve a spam rating either.
 

cliff jones

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I was talking about my first post in this thread which started it all. This is my post which I think was very benign and clearly just my opinion:


Do you think it warrants 4 WTFs and 3 d'ohs? I don't think the other neg-ratings on my follow-up post were because I said that I should neg-rep lukespurs' reply, obviously mostly the same people doubling-down and maybe some more people who discovered they did not like my opinion - after all lukespurs' reply to my first post got 26 agrees, 9 winners and 1 like.

And the fact your response got a spam rating just proves that the posting culture on here has to change. Your post didn't deserve a spam rating either.

Anyone talking in first XI terms deserves a doh, it's a squad game and now City, after the Scum, have managed to stay in contention in the premier while playing well in the CL group, which requires probably at least 18 players of the required standard depending on injuries, whereas we probably have 10-12. It doesnt matter for example whether Wanyama is in, or Dier, as holding mid, when they are both good enough. What matters is filling the gaps, and in so doing developing some variety to our play.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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Watching SKY Sunday supplement, they are suggesting that our wage structure and other financial commitments meant that we were on list number 3 when coming to purchase Janssen.
 

guiltyparty

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I don't mind people disagreeing with me, just click the disagree button. But I don't think it's fair to neg-rep someone with d'oh, dislike and spam-ratings because the person has a different opinion to yours. Nothing in my posts warranted neg-repping, I just stated my opinion and got loads of shit for it. And I think this is becoming a general problem on this forum lately. It's slowly turning into COYS where any opinion that is not positive or differs from the general consensus is slated, ridiculed and neg-repped instead of discussed which I thought the forum was for in the first place.

Welcome to 2016 and post-fact Britain. Not just this forum, it's the general level of what passes for debate nowadays
 

Syn_13

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Watching SKY Sunday supplement, they are suggesting that our wage structure and other financial commitments meant that we were on list number 3 when coming to purchase Janssen.

Sorry mate, what do you mean by list number 3?
 

sunnydelight786

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So instead of 2 short, we're 1 short and asking Sissoko to be a CM/AM. We've strengthened. But not by much imo. And we've only strengthened because Levy matched a tremendous overpay at the death because Poch was seemingly desperate for the player. Kudos to Levy though for the backing. But maybe next time we can do it earlier in the window and spend the money wisely on a better player? Oh well.

We're still desperately lacking someone to push Eriksen. But we've managed spend ~£80m on 3 right sided players in 4 years, when the first one we purchased has become imperative to our teams success. Shocking business, IMO.

Very meh about this window. Obviosuly not as bad as it could have been but considering we're in Champions Leangue and the best player we could come up with was Moussa Sissoko is disheartening, to say the least. Really wish Isco would have decided to come.

No you cant fault Daniel for trying for these guys. But you can fault Daniel for, yet again, leaving it extremely late to the point where its way too late to find another option. And considering how Isco was apparently supposed to be in addition to Sissoko, its really baffling why we waited so fucking late when obviously the money was available. So frustrating. But its not surprising.
You've made a total mug out of them 10 who disagreed with you :p

That was a nail on head post but the happy clappers are loathed to give you credit for it...,
 

shelfboy68

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He was our third choice, perhaps..?

Hardly a big reveal. It was pretty obvious we wanted Batshuayi first and foremost.

Agree we did want the batman first but it dragged on too long as always and if that's true then scratching around for third on a list is woeful for a club that aspires to be considered top four truly woeful.
 

mill

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Agree we did want the batman first but it dragged on too long as always and if that's true then scratching around for third on a list is woeful for a club that aspires to be considered top four truly woeful.

When signing a striker was the absolute priority as well
 

shelfboy68

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When signing a striker was the absolute priority as well

Does make you wonder what goes on at high level boardroom meetings regarding transfers at our club, we never seem to get it right sadly there must be something or someone accountable for our poor transfer activity.
What I do hope is that if we don't qualify for top four or win anything this year which is likely, that we keep hold of our best players and don't sell.
I can see keeping Hugo might be a challenge as he looks and sounds like he is getting a bit frustrated with the lack of progression the team is making, surely he isn't going to fall for levys patter regarding the club is moving in the right direction etc and then he looks at our transfer dealings.
Hugo is at his peak and will surely want to play regular CL and win big prizes but is he going to do that at Spurs? I'm not sure he can if I'm honest.
 

ginola99

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Watched half of that SS clip on Skysports.

I get so fed up of this at times.

It's a such a vicious circle we go through at times but there's a reason why we go through it, we can't afford anything else and that's before you get into what is currently the most expensive capital project in the history of club football (only Wembley Stadium has cost more than this, in the history of football stadiums). We wanted Batshuyi, but Chelsea came in with mega bucks as they always do, anything to stop others improving, any excuse to throw their weight, and above all else, their money around, any excuse and they'll do it.

I can understand the criticism of Poch's team changes in the CL but some people forget the injuries we are incurring at the moment. The expectations going into the UCL was understandable, especially after the wait we've had to painfully endure but we saw what happened last time around, and even with Leeds and Newcastle in years before 2010/11, when you put all your eggs into one European basket, falling the wayside domestically and not returning to the UCL for a long time, if not ever. .

It's amazing how critical these journalists get when talking about our transfer policy, yet if I went up to them and asked

Me: "do you know what the economics of scale is?"

Journo "yes, I do"

Me: "and what do you think of it?"

Journo: "It's proof that the bigger the economy you are, the more money you earn, the more you can spend and control and vice versa."

Me: "Right. So why don't you apply it to Tottenham Hotspur's transfer policy when they earn three times less than what Manchester United do?"

I bet you I'd be told that I either, don't know what I'm talking about or am focusing on the wrongs or just bitter.
 
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RichieS

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Watched half of that SS clip on Skysports.

I get so fed up of this at times.

It's a such a vicious circle we go through at times but there's a reason why we go through it, we can't afford anything else and that's before you get into what is currently the most expensive capital project in the history of club football (only Wembley Stadium has cost more than this, in the history of football stadiums). We wanted Batshuyi, but Chelsea came in with mega bucks as they always do, anything to stop others improving, any excuse to throw their weight, and above all else, their money around, any excuse and they'll do it.

I can understand the criticism of Poch's team changes in the CL but some people forget the injuries we are incurring at the moment. The expectations going into the UCL was understandable, especially after the wait we've had to painfully endure but we saw what happened last time around, and even with Leeds and Newcastle in years before 2010/11, when you put all your eggs into one European basket, falling the wayside domestically and not returning to the UCL for a long time, if not ever. .

It's amazing how critical these journalists get when talking about our transfer policy, yet if I went up to them and asked

Me: "do you know what the economics of scale is?"

Journo "yes, I do"

Me: "and what do you think of it?"

Journo: "It's proof that the bigger the economy you are, the more money you earn, the more you can spend and control and vice versa."

Me: "Right. So why don't you apply it to Tottenham Hotspur's transfer policy when they earn three times less than what Manchester United do?"

I bet you I'd be told that I either, don't know what I'm talking about or am focusing on the wrongs or just bitter.
They are generally idiots but it's also understandable because, apart from Arsenal and United, all the other regular top teams are where they are because of the money they threw and continue to throw around. We seem to be the only team towards the top of the league that attempts to comply with the now seemingly defunct FFP regulations.

The silver lining is that running with such a model has seen us get into a position where in a couple years we will have, with the exception of maybe one or two clubs, the best overall infrastructure in the world and, relatively speaking, minimal debt. This will enable one of two things to happen:
1) ENIC continue to run us as a sustainable concern, but given massively increased income we are able to pay our top earners £200k p/w rather than the current £100k.
2) We become ripe for a takeover by some dude with lots of money and a small penis, and follow the Chelsea, City and Liverpool path to the top of the league.

My opinion may change in the future, but Option 1 I can get behind, Option 2 not so much.
 

danielneeds

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Watched half of that SS clip on Skysports.

We wanted Batshuyi, but Chelsea came in with mega bucks as they always do, anything to stop others improving, any excuse to throw their weight, and above all else, their money around, any excuse and they'll do it.
Not sure it is that in this case. Chelsea wanted Lukaku or Morata, but couldn't get those deals done, so they went to their third choice, ironically meaning we end up with our 2nd or third choice. Of course, if Levy wasn't playing chicken with Marseille to get him on the cheap, we could have done it before Chelsea came in, but...

The rest of your post was spot on though.
 

millsey

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Dec 8, 2005
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They are generally idiots but it's also understandable because, apart from Arsenal and United, all the other regular top teams are where they are because of the money they threw and continue to throw around. We seem to be the only team towards the top of the league that attempts to comply with the now seemingly defunct FFP regulations.

The silver lining is that running with such a model has seen us get into a position where in a couple years we will have, with the exception of maybe one or two clubs, the best overall infrastructure in the world and, relatively speaking, minimal debt. This will enable one of two things to happen:
1) ENIC continue to run us as a sustainable concern, but given massively increased income we are able to pay our top earners £200k p/w rather than the current £100k.
2) We become ripe for a takeover by some dude with lots of money and a small penis, and follow the Chelsea, City and Liverpool path to the top of the league.

My opinion may change in the future, but Option 1 I can get behind, Option 2 not so much.
What's the problem with being taken over and given millions to spend like the big boys? Wanting some moral growth by living wishing our means will mean we just fall further behind. Look at Arsenal
 
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