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thebenjamin

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Should we ask Anthony Martial that? He slaughtered Trippier and couldn't buy his way past Walker in the last game at WHL.

People are so incredibly blind-sided by the fact that Trippier plays the majority of his games against teams that sit back against us, hence having less opportunity to make mistakes. He played against United and Chelsea, two teams that decided not to pin themselves in their own halves and he struggled big time.

Yeah it was startling as well that the second Walker came on, he shut Martial completely out of the game.
 

wadewill

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Wasnt Walker supposed to have acted like a twat afte being dropped/rotated a couple of times and thats where the falling out came from?

Was that before or after Citys interest was apparent.

Surely we are a "small club punching above our weight" etc. if we actually want rid of him? if he has stepped out of line and we are HAPPY to sell him?

Or is that not the case?

My guess is nobody knows. But dont lose your shit. Even without him, I would still really fancy us to challenge (if we were at WHL :(... )
 

Spurrific

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We going to forget about when we were ripped apart by City and Liverpool with Walker in the team? I agree that Trippier isn't great defensively and isn't as good as Walker but I think the gap between the two and Trippier's supposed lack of any defensive nous is being hugely exaggerated.

Considering Walker has, up until the semi-final last year, played every single game against the big boys - I think it's to be expected that he had the odd bad game. The Liverpool game was mainly Davies getting torched, anyway.

There are two extremes in the "Walker vs Trippier" camp. One camp that is adamant there isn't that big a gap in defensive qualities and the other that are expert judges on football matters.
 

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Considering Walker has, up until the semi-final last year, played every single game against the big boys - I think it's to be expected that he had the odd bad game. The Liverpool game was mainly Davies getting torched, anyway.

There are two extremes in the "Walker vs Trippier" camp. One camp that is adamant there isn't that big a gap in defensive qualities and the other that are expert judges on football matters.

And yet the one man that has propelled us to our best league finishes in over 50 years is happy to let him go, but then I guess the so called expert judges on Football matters clearly know better.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Considering Walker has, up until the semi-final last year, played every single game against the big boys - I think it's to be expected that he had the odd bad game. The Liverpool game was mainly Davies getting torched, anyway.

There are two extremes in the "Walker vs Trippier" camp. One camp that is adamant there isn't that big a gap in defensive qualities and the other that are expert judges on football matters.
Are you criticising my football knowledge?
 

Spurrific

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And yet the one man that has propelled us to our best league finishes in over 50 years is happy to let him go, but then I guess the so called expert judges on Football matters clearly know better.

He also thought it would be a good idea to sign Sissoko?

You reckon he's happy to sanction Walker's sale for footballing matters? :ROFLMAO:

The "expert judges" comment was obviously taking the piss, but I do think it is delusional to think there isn't a gap in defensive class between Trippier and Walker.

I like Trippier, I think he's a good player - but Walker is a complete tank of a RB. Not as good at crossing, obviously, but the rest of his game is vastly superior.
 

Japhet

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Considering Walker has, up until the semi-final last year, played every single game against the big boys - I think it's to be expected that he had the odd bad game. The Liverpool game was mainly Davies getting torched, anyway.

There are two extremes in the "Walker vs Trippier" camp. One camp that is adamant there isn't that big a gap in defensive qualities and the other that are expert judges on football matters.


There's a third camp actually. The one that believes that there is a gulf in class on the attacking front. Trippier put more quality balls into the box in one game than Walker managed all season.
 

yankspurs

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There's a third camp actually. The one that believes that there is a gulf in class on the attacking front. Trippier put more quality balls into the box in one game than Walker managed all season.
Well thank fuck every team we play sits back all the time and let us attack! Oh, wait.
 

Spurrific

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There's a third camp actually. The one that believes that there is a gulf in class on the attacking front. Trippier put more quality balls into the box in one game than Walker managed all season.

Which world class defensive unit was that against?

I completely concede Trippier is better at attacking. Walker still racked up a fair few assists last year, though. Those downplaying his attacking attributes are either trying to convince themselves he will be no loss or just ignorant to his all-round ability.
 
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Arguing about a player that wants to leave. Yeah, that'll make a difference. The who can piss higher than who contest won't figure much into the more important matter of how that cash is reinvested and how the team progresses at rightback and as a unit overall.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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And yet the one man that has propelled us to our best league finishes in over 50 years is happy to let him go, but then I guess the so called expert judges on Football matters clearly know better.

Do we know that he's happy to let him go?
 

Japhet

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Which world class defensive unit was that against?

I completely concede Trippier is better at attacking. Walker still racked up a fair few assists last year, though. Those downplaying his attacking attributes are either trying to convince themselves he will be no loss or just ignorant to his all-round ability.


I don't see anyone saying he will be no loss. If he is pushing for a transfer (which by all accounts he is), we have to move on and deal with it. If Poch thinks it's OK to sanction it, then get on with it. We've lost plenty of players that were better than Walker, and if we get somebody like Pereira in I can't see too much of a problem. There is plenty of expectation also that KWP will be the best of the lot at some point. Give him a run at it before he goes elsewhere. Walker is 27 and once his pace goes he's a very average player.
 

thebenjamin

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I don't see anyone saying he will be no loss. If he is pushing for a transfer (which by all accounts he is), we have to move on and deal with it. If Poch thinks it's OK to sanction it, then get on with it. We've lost plenty of players that were better than Walker, and if we get somebody like Pereira in I can't see too much of a problem. There is plenty of expectation also that KWP will be the best of the lot at some point. Give him a run at it before he goes elsewhere. Walker is 27 and once his pace goes he's a very average player.

I don't understand this. A player signs a 5 year contract for a substantial pay rise, and then says they want to leave a couple of months later. Do you 'move on and deal with it' with every single player who does that? So basically every player who gets tapped up and wants to leave for more money, is free to leave. Dele, Toby, anyone.

Strange policy.
 
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I don't understand this. A player signs a 5 year contract for a substantial pay rise, and then says they want to leave a couple of months later. Do you 'move on and deal with it' with every single player who does that? So basically every player who gets tapped up and wants to leave for more money, is free to leave. Dele, Toby, anyone.

Strange policy.
:ROFLMAO:

Friday bants.
 

fatpiranha

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I think it's fairly obvious that Walker is a better defender than Trippier especially against the big teams. He's faster although much more prone to brain farts.

On the other hand Trippier is more of a threat going forward. Last season in the premier league Walker started in 31 matches and managed 0 goals and 6 assists. Trippier started 6 matches and managed 0 goals and 5 assists. In the matches Walker started we conceded an average of 0.71 goals per game. In the matches where Trippier started we conceded an average of 0.5 goals per game.

I realise this is a small sample but the stats look very good for Trippier.

The question though isn't really who is better? Walker or Trippier? It's which would you rather have - Walker? Or Trippier +£60M? I suppose a lot depends on what we do with the £60M. If we buy 2 Sissokos then it's probably not a good move. If on the other hand we buy 12 Dele Allis it certainly is :cautious:.
 
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yankspurs

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I don't understand this. A player signs a 5 year contract for a substantial pay rise, and then says they want to leave a couple of months later. Do you 'move on and deal with it' with every single player who does that? So basically every player who gets tapped up and wants to leave for more money, is free to leave. Dele, Toby, anyone.

Strange policy.
Well if you're a club where profit and being risk averse trumps showing ambition to win, its not strange at all. It's just a hugely upsetting and disheartening one. Especially when you've competed for the league title 2 years in a row.
 

Spurrific

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I think it's fairly obvious that Walker is a better defender than Trippier especially against the big teams. He's faster although much more prone to brain farts.

On the other hand Trippier is more of a threat going forward. Last season in the premier league Walker started in 31 matches and managed 0 goals and 6 assists. Trippier started 6 matches and managed 0 goals and 5 assists. In the matches Walker started we conceded an average of 0.71 goals per game. In the matches where Trippier started we conceded an average of 0.5 goals per game.

I realise this is a small sample but the stats look very good for Trippier.


The question though isn't really who is better? Walker or Trippier? It's which would you rather have - Walker? Or Trippier +£60M? I suppose a lot depends on what we do with the £60M. If we buy 2 Sissokos then it's probably not a good move. If on the other hand we buy 12 Delle Alis it certainly is :cautious:.

Because he mostly plays against the bantha fodder?
 
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