shelfmonkey
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Just imagine IF Baldy did go for it!! Winning the league and all the financial revelry that would come with it, Bale's wages would be a breeze!
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Just imagine IF Baldy did go for it!! Winning the league and all the financial revelry that would come with it, Bale's wages would be a breeze!
How do we strengthen our first 11?
Lilbaz
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Love this thread but am sceptical that poch will walk or bale will rejoin. Not a slight on any of the itk's, they pass on the info they have which hasn't said either will happen but just they are possibilities.
Think we'll be somewhere in the middle. But who knows?
Think we'll be somewhere in the middle. But who knows?
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We spent the money the summer we sold him how could it be a neutral spend?Re; Bale back to Spurs. In terms of the financial services, would it be fair to say that if we got him back for what RM paid for him then it would be, in effect, a neutral spend and the only real stumbling block would be wages?!!!!
LexingtonSpurs
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no.Re; Bale back to Spurs. In terms of the financial services, would it be fair to say that if we got him back for what RM paid for him then it would be, in effect, a neutral spend and the only real stumbling block would be wages?!!!!
Spurs' transfer budget largely consists of money in = money out - each year. From an accounting perspective, the team makes profits or losses on each player - depending on amount paid and depreciation charges on their contracts. But, from a "neutral" spend perspective - we would have to sell a few players to match the transfer price for Bale - Walker, Sissoko, Wimmer - and that is before we discuss replacements for both Walker and Wimmer. If we were smart about our transfer business, then perhaps we could get those replacements in cheaply - covered by Bentaleb and Fazio's sale ~ £20M.
Then there are the wages - both for Bale, and for others who will be here longer than Bale and want to get paid. Maybe there is some language in the Nike deal that would kick in to help pay Bale's wages, or maybe we could get Madrid to kick in a share. But that seems to be a stretch, and does not account for everyone else wanting to get paid.
And, none of that really addresses the issue of whether Bale really fits into Poch's tactics, or whether he would be likely to be healthy enough to eat the transfer fee - because we won't make any of it back in a future transfer...
Lilbaz
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You wont know that till the end of next season. Lukaku might be worse than ibra etc...
King of Otters
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Spurs ain't a franchise. GTFO with that shit.
shelfmonkey
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I'm too knackered to think about that. It was just a thought, £80m in, £80m out?
King of Otters
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But Lindelof will almost certainly be an improvement on all their current defenders bar Bailey.
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Re; Bale back to Spurs. In terms of the financial services, would it be fair to say that if we got him back for what RM paid for him then it would be, in effect, a neutral spend and the only real stumbling block would be wages?!!!!
Well no, because the Beatles weren't free and the most expensive one is still here
shelfmonkey
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Lilbaz
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So is the best one.
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We're not a "franchise".
Frozen_Waffles
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We have the best squad, the best youngsters coming through and a squad, most of which signed new contracts in the last year or two. More importantly we have the best manager to develop them.
Poch is unhappy about what? Levy not spunking another 30m down the toilet on his recommendation?
The players are unhappy about what? That contract that they were happy to sign 6 months ago is now worth less and want another.
If this is true then both Poch and the players need to grow a pair and the deal stuff, chairman wants best deal shocker!
Levy is far from perfect and should attempt to keep people happy. Although from all the new contracts, facilities and Sissoko he seems to have done that.
One month of inactivity in a ridiculous market has turned people in to lunatics.
Poch is unhappy about what? Levy not spunking another 30m down the toilet on his recommendation?
The players are unhappy about what? That contract that they were happy to sign 6 months ago is now worth less and want another.
If this is true then both Poch and the players need to grow a pair and the deal stuff, chairman wants best deal shocker!
Levy is far from perfect and should attempt to keep people happy. Although from all the new contracts, facilities and Sissoko he seems to have done that.
One month of inactivity in a ridiculous market has turned people in to lunatics.
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What I can't get out of my head is that the gains from these last minute changing of the goal posts must be getting smaller and smaller with the money that is in the game right now. It just doesn't seem like it would be worth it to risk the deals. It must just a sport to Levy.
EJWTartanSpur
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Did this Goat info surface anywhere else today ?
Was just driving home from work and Danny Kelly said on TS 'there has been a report today online that Poch is unhappy with Levy for missing out on a few players'
Wouldn't surprise me if Danny Kelly was on this site all the time, he's a proper bonified Spurs geek after all !
Re Breezer
Wimmer valuation was never over the top in my eyes, he has been dreadfully unfortunate to find himself behind the Ajax boys. In this summers market 20m isn't ridiculous, and if he has to go, which I don't want to happen, then that's a really nice profit and he can be considered a successful signing.
All I'll say about the Bale situation is that maybe there's a very small chance that he will have made so much money by the time he leaves Madrid, that he'd be willing to work for a more manageable figure. When you've been hauling in 350k a week then it really does get to the point that you have really accrued all the money you'll ever need and then some. Not saying he would play for a joke of a weekly wage, but maybe something that is near viable.
Good to have the ITK thread alive again and more like it was in many years gone by !
Was just driving home from work and Danny Kelly said on TS 'there has been a report today online that Poch is unhappy with Levy for missing out on a few players'
Wouldn't surprise me if Danny Kelly was on this site all the time, he's a proper bonified Spurs geek after all !
Re Breezer
Wimmer valuation was never over the top in my eyes, he has been dreadfully unfortunate to find himself behind the Ajax boys. In this summers market 20m isn't ridiculous, and if he has to go, which I don't want to happen, then that's a really nice profit and he can be considered a successful signing.
All I'll say about the Bale situation is that maybe there's a very small chance that he will have made so much money by the time he leaves Madrid, that he'd be willing to work for a more manageable figure. When you've been hauling in 350k a week then it really does get to the point that you have really accrued all the money you'll ever need and then some. Not saying he would play for a joke of a weekly wage, but maybe something that is near viable.
Good to have the ITK thread alive again and more like it was in many years gone by !
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I'm well aware! It's a generic term for the face of a club. Ronaldo, Pogba, Messi, Terry etc. The kind you want to be your rainmaker in the commercial setting. Fyi, I hate theAmericanisationn of 'soccer' and wasn't using the term that way
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Re: Goat's latest - too many doubtful bits for me to believe the info. If we wanted Barkley, and agreed £20m and all the rest, I think Levy would be fine to do it.
I also don't feel Levy would recommend players himself, he's always wanted someone between him and the manager to offer another football voice, and this points to me that he knows that football knowledge isn't his strength. We got rid of Mitchell pretty quickly, upgraded Poch's job title, so I think he is happy to let Poch take the lead on the football side of things. If finances are restrained because of the stadium, well that would have be known from the moment poch took the job.
Onto Bale, surprised he would love to come back just because if he was happy with the terms we would offer, then he would have his choice of teams to play for both here and abroad. Maybe when he is into his thirties, but not just yet. Would be fantastic though.
I feel Poch is confident in his ability in improving players individually, so if we sign anyone he has not already worked with, they will not be players to go straight into the first team, and therefore they wont be massive stars or prices. The Link with Andre Gomes, for example, makes no sense. Late twenties, never played in England or for Poch, big fee, I can't see why Poch would want that, nor why it would fit into our buying criteria.
I also don't feel Levy would recommend players himself, he's always wanted someone between him and the manager to offer another football voice, and this points to me that he knows that football knowledge isn't his strength. We got rid of Mitchell pretty quickly, upgraded Poch's job title, so I think he is happy to let Poch take the lead on the football side of things. If finances are restrained because of the stadium, well that would have be known from the moment poch took the job.
Onto Bale, surprised he would love to come back just because if he was happy with the terms we would offer, then he would have his choice of teams to play for both here and abroad. Maybe when he is into his thirties, but not just yet. Would be fantastic though.
I feel Poch is confident in his ability in improving players individually, so if we sign anyone he has not already worked with, they will not be players to go straight into the first team, and therefore they wont be massive stars or prices. The Link with Andre Gomes, for example, makes no sense. Late twenties, never played in England or for Poch, big fee, I can't see why Poch would want that, nor why it would fit into our buying criteria.
Johnny J
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By buying better players for the squad as a whole, resulting in more competition and raising the bar.
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