goughie1966
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Basically you haven't got a clue. Thank fuck you're not in charge
Vincent Janssen
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Krule
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May I respectfully ask what 'Let's see it through" means ???? just how long are you prepared to give the guy to come up to expectations, start scoring goals regularly and provide adequate cover for Harry ?
goughie1966
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You're wasting your time. All they can come up with is Josh King. And the fact that's all they can come up with sums up the situation perfectly.
Everlasting Seconds
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Easily next season. 100%. No brainer to me.
goughie1966
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How does he start scoring goals regularly as cover for Kane?
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All 'they' can come up with ?? I was asked for my choice and gave it....blimey talk about 'generalisation' ?? So according to you the 'situation' is we are stuck with Janssen and there isn't another feasible alternative ??...sad times indeed.
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You expect Harry to play in every League, Cup and CPL match ??? Janssen will be given opportunities and must take them...just like the first half this morning against PSG.....what happened...zippo.
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We shall agree to disagree...after all it's all a question of viewpoints and opinions and that's what makes a forum...and in my estimation Vincent Janssen will prove to be one thing...an expensive and costly liability....time will tell. I do wish before people condemn other people's posts on here with cries of 'rubbish' or 'bollocks' they would begin their posting with three golden words...."In My Opinion" ....it would make such a difference and put a more friendlier tone to discussions
goughie1966
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Sorry but many posters want to see Janssen sold and a replacement brought in who will be happy to sit on the bench. The only name to come up is Josh King. I'm not against that to be honest. He's done well at Bournemouth. But many anti Janssen posters wantt a quality replacement that will bang in goals if Harry gets injured. Unfortunately no one can provide an alternative except for King. And I don't think he's much of an upgrade. Basically there's very little in the way of an alternative.
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Just the way it is. If it was in attacking mid I'd say there is plenty of options because whoever signs would have three positions to cover, three different players to be backup to. They'd get plenty of game time. If you've got a Harry Kane it's different.
I look at it the same as Lloris. You wouldn't say we need to spend what would be huge money on a backup and why would this backup sign. We could've spent most of our budget on Pickford but he'd be mental to sign for us. It's the same with striker for us.
Personally I'd love to sign an attacking mid who could play up front if came to it. Beyond that I think it's either King level or another youth prospect like Janssen. Think I'd rather just give Janssen another year.
goughie1966
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Harry will start EVERY league and Champions League game. No way does he sit out any of those games if fit. You're left with the FA cup and League Cup. About a dozen games if we get to the final in each. But by the time we reach the quarter finals Harry will be picked for them too. Signing for Spurs as a striker means sitting on your arse all season waiting for Harry to get injured.
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No striker able to score at even half Kane's rate would come, as even half of Kane's output is enough to justify a starting spot and huge salary/ huge fee at a top club (see Morata).
The other noteworthy point is that, to score at a semi decent rate without a run of games is nigh on and impossible in this league. So we'll never know with him until Harry is out for two/ three months and missed ten games in a row, which we don't want.
Thankfully we have a great array of goal scorers from the support positions, with Son, Dele and Eriksen all double figures players, so the main remit for anyone deputising in Harry's absence is to provide a focal point and lead the line. Janssen certainly does this. I'm not sure who out there, at a 'second choice striker' price, would do any better.
The other noteworthy point is that, to score at a semi decent rate without a run of games is nigh on and impossible in this league. So we'll never know with him until Harry is out for two/ three months and missed ten games in a row, which we don't want.
Thankfully we have a great array of goal scorers from the support positions, with Son, Dele and Eriksen all double figures players, so the main remit for anyone deputising in Harry's absence is to provide a focal point and lead the line. Janssen certainly does this. I'm not sure who out there, at a 'second choice striker' price, would do any better.
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I can't work out if your post is a piss take or for real.
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You're right - but statistically speaking, Harry Kane needing to be rested, getting injured or suspended is higher as each season goes by, as he gets older, as we play him more.
So the 'backup striker' will most likely get to play in the league and in enough games of importance, but will have to be ready to pounce, like Kieran Trippier, Harry Winks, Ryan Mason and Heung Min Son did, rather than assume this.
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goughie1966
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You're right of course. But very few posters can provide an alternative. @Krule has provided a good shout in Josh King, but that's all we have from the anti Janssen brigade. I can't think of alternatives either and I just don't think there's any out there
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(I'd be relatively keen on King; it's feasible that he and Janssen could 'gel' too.)
I actually believe Janssen is a lovely footballer and out of respect for his professionalism and our financial investment we have to give him another year at least to bed in. Lamela is a good example of someone who took time to adapt; and Son was man of the match on at least twice last season too following a bitty first season.
Maybe Wembley might be better for Janssen ? He has a lot on his shoulders to be expected to be an on fire striker when working in Kane's shadow.
So far I like what I see of him, but I won't deny my inner child wants to beat at my keyboard demanding more - I've just reasoned, however, that Poch has the expertise to judge what he feels is best for the team/squad etc.
I actually believe Janssen is a lovely footballer and out of respect for his professionalism and our financial investment we have to give him another year at least to bed in. Lamela is a good example of someone who took time to adapt; and Son was man of the match on at least twice last season too following a bitty first season.
Maybe Wembley might be better for Janssen ? He has a lot on his shoulders to be expected to be an on fire striker when working in Kane's shadow.
So far I like what I see of him, but I won't deny my inner child wants to beat at my keyboard demanding more - I've just reasoned, however, that Poch has the expertise to judge what he feels is best for the team/squad etc.
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Here is a list of some of the criteria one would have to go by to find somebody "better".
Initial cost: Under 20M
Age: 23 or under
In the contention for his national team: Yes
Proven on a senior level: Yes
Represents a possible attitude problem: No
Janssen is one of the top strikers in the PL in his age bracket. Very few players (eg. Rashford) are as young/younger and better.
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