The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 19th August 2017

rossdapep · Aug 19, 2017

Hercules did say don't focus too much on Martial. Must be someone else.

Ghost Hardware · Aug 19, 2017

Martial has been very good in his last two sub performances, I don't see why Utd would sell, especially to a PL team.

Antilokhos · Aug 19, 2017

RJR1949 said:
I hope it's opinion. I fear it's ITK. Thanks for posting it.

It's obvious.

Good Doctor M · Aug 19, 2017

rossdapep said:
Hercules did say don't focus too much on Martial. Must be someone else.

Probably one of many possibilities... We've perhaps got a half finger dipped in a few different pies, but lets not turn this into a guessing game.

Univarn · Aug 19, 2017

rossdapep said:
Hercules did say don't focus too much on Martial. Must be someone else.

Moving forward with a couple of targets on a tight budget near the end of the window but keeping an eye on Martial to see how ManU's buys and his relationship with management develops over the remainder of this window is not a terrible strategy. Hercules comment to me meant more "don't obsess over him. If it can work out we will work it out, but we have options"

doctor stefan Freud · Aug 19, 2017

Good Doctor M said:
Probably one of many possibilities... We've perhaps got a half finger dipped in a few different pies, but lets not turn this into a guessing game.

Agree- everyone needs to just tighten their sphincters and wait for things to develop

Hercules · Aug 19, 2017

Ghost Hardware said:
Martial has been very good in his last two sub performances, I don't see why Utd would sell, especially to a PL team.

This is my opinion to that and nothing else. They want another player (wide) to satisfy Jose, player profile could go in a price-range which will put them under pressure to sell Martial. As you can only fit so many players in final third. In the agent world Martial has quietly confidentially offered to specific clubs by his agents, with Yanited's knowledge.

Whatever is happening off the bench with him, I believe (opinion) if someone (Top 4) offered say 60m plus, they certainly would very seriously consider it.

thinktank · Aug 19, 2017

doctor stefan Freud said:
Agree- everyone needs to just tighten their sphincters and wait for things to develop

Will only make it hurt more when Archie drops The D on you. My advice - stay loose.

robertgoulet · Aug 19, 2017

Hercules said:
Ghost Hardware said:

Martial has been very good in his last two sub performances, I don't see why Utd would sell, especially to a PL team.

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This is my opinion to that and nothing else. They want another player (wide) to satisfy Jose, player profile could go in a price-range which will put them under pressure to sell Martial. As you can only fit so many players in final third. In the agent world Martial has quietly confidentially offered to specific clubs by his agents, with Yanited's knowledge.

Whatever is happening off the bench with him, I believe (opinion) if someone (Top 4) offered say 60m plus, they certainly would very seriously consider it.

Hence the "don't pay too attention to Martial" post. It's more about paying attention to whom Man U sign. Until they bring in that other wide attacker Martial stays.

Blackrat1299 · Aug 19, 2017

doctor stefan Freud said:
Does not surprise me; but Levy and co would know this too so I'm certain there are effective alternatives

Only if they read SC!

Univarn · Aug 19, 2017

Hercules said:
This is my opinion to that and nothing else. They want another player (wide) to satisfy Jose, player profile could go in a price-range which will put them under pressure to sell Martial. As you can only fit so many players in final third. In the agent world Martial has quietly confidentially offered to specific clubs by his agents, with Yanited's knowledge.

Whatever is happening off the bench with him, I believe (opinion) if someone (Top 4) offered say 60m plus, they certainly would very seriously consider it.

Cheers Herc. I think the ITK accidentally gave the impression that 'the race was on' (we here always assume it is anyways and hence panic at every detour) when reality it's more of a 'if we want him, and feel we can afford him and get him, we have to be quick when the moment is right'.

lukespurs7 · Aug 19, 2017

So assuming it's now: Sanchez, Gazzinga, Foyth, Barkley and going with ITK 1 more, I wonder if the other is Diop. Would be good window if can get all of them but think everyone agrees we need a pacey AM, can't see martial happening and diop is a CM so if this is the case looks like we'll give sissoko and n'koudu another season. I think adding Barkley that'll give us a lot of options going forward but agree with most that a pacey AM would be key so hoping the final signing would not be diop and would be a mystery pacey AM but really can't see it being Martial. Zaha?

Ossie85 · Aug 19, 2017

Hercules said:
This is my opinion to that and nothing else. They want another player (wide) to satisfy Jose, player profile could go in a price-range which will put them under pressure to sell Martial. As you can only fit so many players in final third. In the agent world Martial has quietly confidentially offered to specific clubs by his agents, with Yanited's knowledge.

Whatever is happening off the bench with him, I believe (opinion) if someone (Top 4) offered say 60m plus, they certainly would very seriously consider it.

I'd pay that for him. He's def a game changer
If Sanchez was 40m, Martial is a bargain at that price

thebenjamin · Aug 19, 2017

There must be a fast wide forward we have in our sights who isn't completely unattainable.

robertgoulet · Aug 19, 2017

Univarn said:
Hercules said:

This is my opinion to that and nothing else. They want another player (wide) to satisfy Jose, player profile could go in a price-range which will put them under pressure to sell Martial. As you can only fit so many players in final third. In the agent world Martial has quietly confidentially offered to specific clubs by his agents, with Yanited's knowledge.

Whatever is happening off the bench with him, I believe (opinion) if someone (Top 4) offered say 60m plus, they certainly would very seriously consider it.

Click to expand...

Cheers Herc. I think the ITK accidentally gave the impression that 'the race was on' (we here always assume it is anyways and hence panic at every detour) when reality it's more of a 'if we want him, and feel we can afford him and get him, we have to be quick when the moment is right'.

I think it's: we've been given indication from the agent and Man U that they would play ball IF they get the wide attacking player in that they want.

Ossie85 · Aug 19, 2017

lukespurs7 said:
So assuming it's now: Sanchez, Gazzinga, Foyth, Barkley and going with ITK 1 more, I wonder if the other is Diop. Would be good window if can get all of them but think everyone agrees we need a pacey AM, can't see martial happening and diop is a CM so if this is the case looks like we'll give sissoko and n'koudu another season. I think adding Barkley that'll give us a lot of options going forward but agree with most that a pacey AM would be key so hoping the final signing would not be diop and would be a mystery pacey AM but really can't see it being Martial. Zaha?

I think Diop and Foyth are counted as youngsters and not part of those 4 signings Poch mentions. I don't think we'll be signing Diop though

John48 · Aug 19, 2017

Zaha is injured, so it's unlikely we'd go for 2 injured players & I certainly wouldn't consider him a game changer.

rossdapep · Aug 19, 2017

thebenjamin said:
There must be a fast wide forward we have in our sights who isn't completely unattainable.

In serious demand though aren't they. And selling clubs know that too.

Breezer · Aug 19, 2017

lukespurs7 said:
So assuming it's now: Sanchez, Gazzinga, Foyth, Barkley and going with ITK 1 more, I wonder if the other is Diop. Would be good window if can get all of them but think everyone agrees we need a pacey AM, can't see martial happening and diop is a CM so if this is the case looks like we'll give sissoko and n'koudu another season. I think adding Barkley that'll give us a lot of options going forward but agree with most that a pacey AM would be key so hoping the final signing would not be diop and would be a mystery pacey AM but really can't see it being Martial. Zaha?

Forget Zaha. We've already pissed him off with a silly wage offer. That's why he signed a new deal at Palace.

diamond lights · Aug 19, 2017

Hercules said:
This is my opinion to that and nothing else. They want another player (wide) to satisfy Jose, player profile could go in a price-range which will put them under pressure to sell Martial. As you can only fit so many players in final third. In the agent world Martial has quietly confidentially offered to specific clubs by his agents, with Yanited's knowledge.

Whatever is happening off the bench with him, I believe (opinion) if someone (Top 4) offered say 60m plus, they certainly would very seriously consider it.

Thanks for the info.

I don't see us paying 60 mill though. We're not shopping at those prices.

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