Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

fortworthspur · Aug 27, 2017

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
I voiced my concerns about Trippier last weekend but lets not pretend Walker wasn't prone to an absolute balls up. He only really improved that side of his game when Poch got hold of him.

sure Walker had brain farts, but that was about 30 minutes of brain diarrhea from Trippier. He was consistently out of position in the second half - that wasnt the first time he left that space open and Burnley exploited it with a ball to an unmarked man. Honestly, Poch should have had a word with him before that.

agrdavidsfan · Aug 29, 2017

I know it's knee jerk,

But I actually do not think he's anywhere near good enough he's probably the 8th best right back in the league.

There's no surprise he's been found out when the team aren't playing too well.

I think we were carrying him.

Bus-Conductor · Aug 29, 2017

Spurrific said:
Thank god we sold Walker. We'd have won the FA Cup if he wasn't dropped for the semi-final too. I'm converting to some fucking religion and praying every hour on the hour that we sign Aurier. Play Trippier RM if anything. All he can do is cross, we need more from a right back.

Don't understand why KWP was dropped for him. The performance against Toon was better than anything the full-back version of David Bentley has offered since he's been with us.

Fucked if I care whether I'm knee jerking or not.

It was 2-2 in the semi-final until Walker came on and the player he was brought on to mark, scored.

We were chasing a league title until Walker lost his man at West Ham. But won every single game at the back end with Trippier.

Jerkers gonna jerk I guess..

Bus-Conductor · Aug 29, 2017

agrdavidsfan said:
I know it's knee jerk,

But I actually do not think he's anywhere near good enough he's probably the 8th best right back in the league.

There's no surprise he's been found out when the team aren't playing too well.

I think we were carrying him.

Just like Kane got found out as being wasteful, Alli got found out as being fucking slapdash, Son got found out as being erratic, Dier and Dembele got found out as being lethargic cowards,Davies got found out as a poor footballer, and Lloris gets found out as someone who makes poor distribution décédions.

Trippier was, offensively, the best attacking RB in the league last year and he only started about a third of it. That was a fact.

Defensively he's definitely not brilliant, but let's be realistic, there aren't 7 others who could play the way Poch wants our fb's to play and be better defensively as well. Especially when the whole team is not playing well and our coach is making tactical errors. Like why not play 3421 if you feel your fb's need some help defensively?

I worry far more about Davies, who isn't great at either end.

And I worry much more about our midfield that can't drive the team when they need some tempo and can't protect it when they don't.

SpursDave88 · Aug 29, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
Just like Kane got found out as being wasteful, Alli got found out as being fucking slapdash, Son got found out as being erratic, Dier and Dembele got found out as being lethargic cowards,Davies got found out as a poor footballer, and Lloris gets found out as someone who makes poor distribution décédions.

Trippier was, offensively, the best attacking RB in the league last year and he only started about a third of it. That was a fact.

Defensively he's definitely not brilliant, but let's be realistic, there aren't 7 others who could play the way Poch wants our fb's to play and be better defensively as well. Especially when the whole team is not playing well and our coach is making tactical errors. Like why not play 3421 if you feel your fb's need some help defensively?

I worry far more about Davies, who isn't great at either end.

No, Trippier was ineffective going forward and abysmal going backwards. to say Trippier was offensively the best attacking RB in the league because we destroyed Watford home and away is obviously not representative so is not a "fact". Kyle Walker or Victor Moses would have a much better claim.

Spurrific · Aug 29, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
It was 2-2 in the semi-final until Walker came on and the player he was brought on to mark, scored.

We were chasing a league title until Walker lost his man at West Ham. But won every single game at the back end with Trippier.

Jerkers gonna jerk I guess..

You ain't ever going to stop me from jerking.

Walker saved us a lot more times than he cost us. Trippier has made a couple of telling contributions, never defensively. He sets up the odd goal, normally when teams are bent over and letting us creampie them though. Has he even created a chance yet this season? I was under the impression he'd be an assist machine due to his minute:goal involvement ratio last season?

EastLondonYid · Aug 29, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
It was 2-2 in the semi-final until Walker came on and the player he was brought on to mark, scored.

We were chasing a league title until Walker lost his man at West Ham. But won every single game at the back end with Trippier.

Jerkers gonna jerk I guess..

Bus-Conductor · Aug 29, 2017

SpursDave88 said:
No, Trippier was ineffective going forward and abysmal going backwards. to say Trippier was offensively the best attacking RB in the league because we destroyed Watford home and away is obviously not representative so is not a "fact". Kyle Walker or Victor Moses would have a much better claim.

Er no, they wouldn't actually. Trippier created considerably more goals and chances per minute on the pitch than Walker. That's a fact. An actual real fact. back end results with Trippier: Watford, Arsenal, ManU, Leicester, Hull, Bournemouth, Hull, Burnley - that's WWWWWWWW - GF 27 GA 3

And he wasn't ineffective going forwards, he played Eriksen in with a great pass. Apart from that it was a game against a bus parker, sitting deep, the likes of which we saw many of which last season where Walker equally did fuck all offensively.

The team was poor defensively in the second half of the second half, not just Trippier. And when the team was like that with Walker in it, he invariably looked a lot less comfortable and often did stupid things, like against West Ham in his last game, or even the Palace away game where he looked ropey at times. And his stupidity has already cost ManC points. In Poch's first two seasons we were the team that conceded most winning positions in the league - WITH WALKER an ever present.

Lets keep it as real as possible eh. Trippier has issues, so does half our team, so did Walker. Aurier has some to, and is a fucking dipstick off the pitch as well. Kane refuses to pass, Alli pisses the ball away, Son can do the sublime but not the fucking simple, Davies is just pretty timid at both ends much of the time.

Even more worrying is where was our midfield or collective tactical nouse (that comes from our coach) in the latter part of that game.

agrdavidsfan · Aug 29, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
Just like Kane got found out as being wasteful, Alli got found out as being fucking slapdash, Son got found out as being erratic, Dier and Dembele got found out as being lethargic cowards,Davies got found out as a poor footballer, and Lloris gets found out as someone who makes poor distribution décédions.

Trippier was, offensively, the best attacking RB in the league last year and he only started about a third of it. That was a fact.

Defensively he's definitely not brilliant, but let's be realistic, there aren't 7 others who could play the way Poch wants our fb's to play and be better defensively as well. Especially when the whole team is not playing well and our coach is making tactical errors. Like why not play 3421 if you feel your fb's need some help defensively?

I worry far more about Davies, who isn't great at either end.

And I worry much more about our midfield that can't drive the team when they need some tempo and can't protect it when they don't.

I agree about davies also, although he's massively improved he just has no second gear to his game likewise with trippier, our system requires fast full backs but at the moment we have gone from ferrari's to ford escorts.

Spurrific · Aug 29, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
Just like Kane got found out as being wasteful, Alli got found out as being fucking slapdash, Son got found out as being erratic, Dier and Dembele got found out as being lethargic cowards,Davies got found out as a poor footballer, and Lloris gets found out as someone who makes poor distribution décédions.

Trippier was, offensively, the best attacking RB in the league last year and he only started about a third of it. That was a fact.

Defensively he's definitely not brilliant, but let's be realistic, there aren't 7 others who could play the way Poch wants our fb's to play and be better defensively as well. Especially when the whole team is not playing well and our coach is making tactical errors. Like why not play 3421 if you feel your fb's need some help defensively?

I worry far more about Davies, who isn't great at either end.

And I worry much more about our midfield that can't drive the team when they need some tempo and can't protect it when they don't.

The sort of stat that would have you creaming your drawers for Trippier.

Bus-Conductor · Aug 29, 2017

Spurrific said:
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The sort of stat that would have you creaming your drawers for Trippier.

It will if he's still top of the leader in the 30th week of the season and not just after most of Europe has played one or two weeks.

Bus-Conductor · Aug 29, 2017

agrdavidsfan said:
I agree about davies also, although he's massively improved he just has no second gear to his game likewise with trippier, our system requires fast full backs but at the moment we have gone from ferrari's to ford escorts.

The problem is, lets be honest, there are very few FB's that are lightning quick, can run up and down relentlessly for 90 minutes, deliver composure in the attacking third and defend intelligently in the defensive third. Walker certainly didn't all those boxes for most of his 6years.

I can't really think of too many, if any RB's in Europe that fit that remit, and if there were, they'd be at an uber club. I'm happy to upgrade Trippier, but with who ? Aurier ticks a few of those boxes, but not all, all of the time, just like Walker. And Aurier's a fucking plum off the pitch and we are a team that thrives by it's team spirit.

Paolo10 · Aug 29, 2017

Honestly think people are being horrendously and prematurely harsh on a player just coming back from injury who's been patient for his chance.

If you want to get at anyone, get at the transfer committee for not sorting a quality replacement for Walker in good enough time to compete with Trippier.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Aug 29, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
I worry far more about Davies, who isn't great at either end.

Looool. Ridiculous.

He's far better than Trippier defensively. In fact, I would say he's at least on a par with Rose defensively if not better at some aspects.

Hazardousman · Aug 29, 2017

Davies is a much better FB than Trippier defensively and offensively imo, Rose is better than both of them going forwards.

Trippier isn't good enough to be first choice, just because we smashed a bunch of teams towards the end of the season doesn't change that, I didn't want Walker sold because he has more experience and is better defensively than Trippier, far better, even with his occasional brain farts.

We need another first choice RB to come in imo, in the longer term if KWP keeps developing I could see him even being ahead of Trippier.

Davies however is a competent backup and first choice option that can challenge Rose, he has proven that already this season and last, after all, Trippier only covered for Walker for a number of games, Davies covered for Rose for months if I remember correctly.

I agree with you on most things @Bus-Conductor but you do seem to have a vendetta against certain players, Dembele being one and Walker when he was here, I think for such a logical person you let bias get in the way sometimes, I am also guilty of this at times so I am not casting judgement, I am just saying, I can see it.

Bus-Conductor · Aug 29, 2017

Hazardousman said:
Davies is a much better FB than Trippier defensively and offensively imo, Rose is better than both of them going forwards.

Trippier isn't good enough to be first choice, just because we smashed a bunch of teams towards the end of the season doesn't change that, I didn't want Walker sold because he has more experience and is better defensively than Trippier, far better, even with his occasional brain farts.

We need another first choice RB to come in imo, in the longer term if KWP keeps developing I could see him even being ahead of Trippier.

Davies however is a competent backup and first choice option that can challenge Rose, he has proven that already this season and last, after all, Trippier only covered for Walker for a number of games, Davies covered for Rose for months if I remember correctly.

I agree with you on most things @Bus-Conductor but you do seem to have a vendetta against certain players, Dembele being one and Walker when he was here, I think for such a logical person you let bias get in the way sometimes, I am also guilty of this at times so I am not casting judgement, I am just saying, I can see it.

I definitely think Trippier has got some defensive issues, but offensively he is the best FB of all of them. I would still rather we started giving KWP more time, because I think he will eclipse all of them, and unlike any of the others, KWP can actually dribble at players too.

I don't have a vendetta against any players, not seriously, I don't think many of us do, we just have opinions, and if those opinions don't change radically then it becomes "a Vendetta". People seem to ignore the fact that for the vast majority of the last two years I acknowledged that his general play had improved under Poch and most weeks the worst I said about Walker "decent game defensively, didn't offer much offensively". I said pretty much the same for Rose for the same period. But that wasn't a vendetta ?

In the past I had very big issues with the inanely stupid things Walker would do. And I don't just mean the real fuckbombs that cost us, I mean like jockeying a player on the ball then a player would run past them and he'd get distracted and go chasing the player without the ball leaving the player with the ball, or like when he used to stand off players and say "go on, race me" etc. Or the countless times he'd get forward, panic under pressure and cough the ball up with a stupid pass or a fumble dribble.

I like Dembele, I think he's got many saving graces, but I just don't always appreciate his holding onto the ball until he triple checks every pass for safety. There are some games where his robustness and caution are good, many when they are a bit frustrating, if he's going to play then it's just a case of picking him with different partner or in a CM3 and balance off his skills with others, but not with Dier.

If you look at that record under that I posted with Trippier back end, it's bloody impressive. Doesn't mean Trippier's not got flaws, but I really don't think he's a catastrophe either. I really don't think he did loads wrong on the goal at the weekend either.

Bus-Conductor · Aug 29, 2017

Everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that we were the worst team in the league in Poch's two first years for coughing up points from winning positions. That was with with Walker, every time, occasionally because of.

Call Trippier out, but lets not pretend this is new or unique.

EastLondonYid · Aug 29, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
Everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that we were the worst team in the league in Poch's two first years for coughing up points from winning positions. That was with with Walker, every time, occasionally because of.

Call Trippier out, but lets not pretend this is new or unique.

we get it ffs
Walker.s gone ,,,give it a rest now mate,

Bus-Conductor · Aug 29, 2017

EastLondonYid said:
we get it ffs
Walker.s gone ,,,give it a rest now mate,

So angry, you Walkered your punctuation there?

PeeEyeEmPee · Aug 29, 2017

no-one had more of a problem with Walker than I did, and the combined lack of intelligence regularly displayed by he and Lennon infuriated the fuck out of me. with that said, he improved massively over the last two seasons, and I really had to scratch my head at those claiming just a few weeks ago that we'd be no worse off without him since Trippier was at least as good, and potentially better. I don't even think members of Trippier's family would attempt to claim this to be the case now.

I'm not for a single second suggesting he's the cause of our problems, but he's certainly not solving any at the moment, and doesn't look capable of doing so either.

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