EastLondonYid
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Can anyone help me get Apoel away tickets.....?
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nightgoat
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If he wasn't that would mean we've only named 16 non-homegrown players and voluntarily left out Janssen.
Hardly a punishment for a team with no home grown players anyway.
spurs mental
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Not sure why this is getting so much hate. The guy hasn't played for almost a year for our club yet has been getting a weekly wage that most of us can't earn in a year.
He's going to be out for minimum another 3 or 4 months before he even is remotely match fit but people are desperate for him to be back. We finished 2nd without him. He isn't going to get in our team when everyone is fit.
I get the guy is going through issues and I feel sorry for him but I don't see a future for him at our club.
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"I'm sure he's had plenty of fun with the money he's earned being out injured for a year"
It's bloody obvious why it's getting hate. Along with your shitty comment about his earnings.
spurs mental
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Is anything I said incorrect though? Has he or has he not been taking a weekly wage while being injured for over a year. Wages we quite clearly could use for our top players. Just because the guy has injury problems doesn't excuse him from criticism.
And the plenty of fun comment was clearly tongue in cheek. We would all have fun earning 70 or 80 grand a week.
hughy
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What criticism does he deserve exactly?
It's fair to criticise someone if it's justified, but you're just doing it for the sake of it.
spurs mental
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He had 4 good games at the start of last season. Scored a nice rabona goal against some European farmers a few years ago. What else has he done to justify still being with our club?
Played like a headless chicken v Arsenal and cost us a win at the Emirates by getting a booking forcing Poch to take him off. Wasn't the first time and certainly wasn't the last either.
All I'm saying is we are paying the guy for the last year, but he hasn't played. Those wages could be spent elsewhere on improving the players contracts who have played 60 plus games for us in that time.
What I'm saying isn't false.
hughy
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What you're saying is selective.
Like the part where you missed out the entire 2015/16 season when he was fantastic and one of the first names on our teamsheet for the most part.
You certainly are mental.
spurs mental
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That arsenal game I mentioned was in 15/16.
I honestly believe there is people who still want this guy at the club or believe he has a future.
1) he isn't getting into our first team when everyone is fit, even if everyone isn't fit I still don't see Poch changing the system to squeeze him in
2) everyone is ignoring that he's been injured for a year and this has cost the club where as we could have spent this money on our actual top players.
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I'm sure you're saying the exact same for Rose who's been out injured for a bit. Imagine who we could have gotten off of the wages of the months that he's been out.
Or maybe the 3 months that Kane was out injured last year. Were you having a go at him for his injury and how much it was costing the club in his absence? Give it a rest.
If Lamela was doing a Costa and not showing up at all then you're well within your rights to criticise him for that, but the dude is injured. That's a part of football. Leave it be.
As for him getting into our first team, I personally think you're seriously giving Lamela a disservice. He was great for us 15/16. One of the first names on the sheet and if he were fit he would have been playing a lot last season.
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so every time a player picks up a knock that turns into 2 operations they should be got rid of should they? was you criticizing him when he helped us get 3rd the season before when he was one of our players of the season? though now seeing glimpses of other posts you've made, it's just fact you don't like him.
I tell you now and yes your correct his performance v Arsenal forced Poch to take him off. I will also tell you something, if every player put in the effort he put in v Newcastle we would of finished 2nd, and if every player put in the same effort in other games, we might of even won it instead of Leicester.
if you don't like the player, that's your opinion, which your totally entitled to, but don't begrudge a player wages when he has had to have 2 ops, and a lot of family issues and suffered a fair amount of stress, stress and depression is a killing disease if it's not treated right.
edit: just 1 other question if Kane, Alli, or Eriksen suffered the same injuries and stress and where out for a season, would you be singing from the same hymn sheet?
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fortworthspur
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so what - terminate his contract? I dont think we can do that - we'd still have to pay him. I agree overall about his performance - one good season, one ok season, and two injured seasons. but what do we do about that? we have to pay him and we probably couldnt sell him for much. might as well see how strong he comes back.
What in the entire fuck?
Not sure why, eh? Seriously? What the actual fuck?
Just keep digging.
spurs mental
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Rose has played well for us for more than 1 season. Rose is a prick for his comments but it doesn't mean he's not a good player and actually been an integral part of our growth under Poch.
Kane has scored 20 goals 3 seasons on the spin and won 2 golden boots.
Lamela has done very little of note bar 15/16. He hasn't earned the respect that Kane can command.
It's nothing to do with liking him or not. I thought after the way he started last season he was going to be an important player for us. But we didn't miss him last season. We finished 2nd without him. We went on a run of 13 win in 14 games, scored the most goals in the league without him.
In regards to Kane, Alli, Eriksen. Those guys have been consistently good for us over the last 2(Alli and Eriksen) and 3(Kane) seasons. So it's completely different with them.
I'm done with this Lamela nonsense now.
It's not that I don't like the guy. I dont have any agenda against him. I get hes had setbacks. I understand he's had personal issues. I just think he doesn't have a future with our club. I think we could spend his wages on our important players like Toby, Dele, Rose, Eriksen. Players who have been consistent for us. Regardless of Rose as a person, he's an excellent footballer and one we should be striving to keep.
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Would love to see what @spurs mental would do with his wages if he was signed off work for a protracted amount of time. Wonder which of his co-workers he'd be looking to split his wages between.
spurs mental
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I wouldnt get paid if I was off work for a year. Which is the same for most of us normal folk.
No need to be so fucking smart about it either
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So it seems that you are happy to pay an injured player if they are good but not if they are not (in your opinion). That's nonsense.
So you've changed your mind?
spurs mental
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No. I'm done explaining my opinion. Clearly I'm not allowed to have a different opinion if I don't conform to the norm around here.
