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Eriksen v Ozil

bomberH

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I listened to talksport for the first time in ages earlier in the week and happened to hear a chat about Barkley coming to Spurs and if he could fit in with Dele and Eriksen. It was Durham and Goughie. In a throwaway comment right at the end of it, Goughie said 'and obviously there's no way Eriksen is worth £30m' - even though they were saying Barkley was - and that he was only that 'cheap' because he's in the last year of his contract.

I mean, there's possibly as argument to be had whether Eriksen is worth around the £30m mark but to just fob it off like that was incredibly retarded. We paid £12m for him, which would've been around £20 if he wasn't in the last year (I believe) of his contract and he's been excellent overall for us so his value has obviously risen and I could see us getting £30/35m at least if we sold him to a Madrid or Juventus etc. He's still very young and has had new hair put in so it's all good. Ozil was a genuine worldie at Madrid but has only shown glimpses here, i'd rather have Eriksen but at the same time, I'd probably rather have Madrid's Ozil.

Anyway, at the end of it I remembered that it was talksport and Goughie is a fat ex cricketer who can't speak properly and doesn't watch a lot of football matches.
 

mano-obe

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Ozil on his day is fantastic but doesn't like to be bullied and we'll shy away. Eriksen, even though he will shy away from a tackle does not mind being rushed or closed down, or even pushed off the ball. Ozil would be better off in Spain again or Italy.

It's fair to say that when Eriksen and Ozil play well the whole team around them plays well.

Eriksen is better suited to this league, a great player we have got on our hands
 

Buster18

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To be fair there's not much in the stats until this season. Eriksen has certainly been the bigger success, but to be fair to Özil you have to mention chances created. Arsenal's strikers have been so poor - if they had someone decent up top I'd imagine his assists would be much, much higher.

Last season he created 144 chances (a premier league record) yet the conversion rating was only around 4%. This season he has only created 59 compared to Eriksen's 79 though, albeit in 500 less minutes.

There isn't but when you consider nearly half of Ozil's assists came in a 4 month period. He's been here nearly 4 years. Take that 4 month period out, his stats are at best bang average. For £42m, which was a bigger deal than it would be now, the consistency aspect is very poor.
 

fortworthspur

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Eriksen is every bit as good as Modric was at the same age. I honestly believe that. Modric was better in possession but Eriksen is far more likely to score and Modric's equal in passing.
 
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Eriksen is every bit as good as Modric was at the same age. I honestly believe that. Modric was better in possession but Eriksen is far more likely to score and Modric's equal in passing.
As good as Modric is I still think Eriksen is a better player. Way more ability with the ball. Thought about giving up after Bale and Modric left but the Poch lad has saved the day. dunno how ill cope if/when he leaves. Im so proud of Spurs now I could cry(I actually do when nobody is looking!).
 

Kiedis

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Eriksen is every bit as good as Modric was at the same age. I honestly believe that. Modric was better in possession but Eriksen is far more likely to score and Modric's equal in passing.

You know what? You're absolutely right.
 

jurgen

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My brother in law is a dipper fan and usually isn't too rabid with the Scouse nonsense, but before the season started said that it would be criminal to sell Coutinho for under £150m, but if we got offered £50m for Eriksen we should take it as 'it'd be really easy to find another player at Ajax or somewhere who could do his job for a quarter of the price'

:LOL:
 

michaelden

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Buster18

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for anyone interested, i’ve updated the stats on the 1st post.
 

bomberH

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I listened to talksport for the first time in ages earlier in the week and happened to hear a chat about Barkley coming to Spurs and if he could fit in with Dele and Eriksen. It was Durham and Goughie. In a throwaway comment right at the end of it, Goughie said 'and obviously there's no way Eriksen is worth £30m' - even though they were saying Barkley was - and that he was only that 'cheap' because he's in the last year of his contract.

I mean, there's possibly as argument to be had whether Eriksen is worth around the £30m mark but to just fob it off like that was incredibly retarded. We paid £12m for him, which would've been around £20 if he wasn't in the last year (I believe) of his contract and he's been excellent overall for us so his value has obviously risen and I could see us getting £30/35m at least if we sold him to a Madrid or Juventus etc. He's still very young and has had new hair put in so it's all good. Ozil was a genuine worldie at Madrid but has only shown glimpses here, i'd rather have Eriksen but at the same time, I'd probably rather have Madrid's Ozil.

Anyway, at the end of it I remembered that it was talksport and Goughie is a fat ex cricketer who can't speak properly and doesn't watch a lot of football matches.

Not even a year ago and I was mocking Goughie for saying he wasn’t worth £30m. Just under a year later and thanks to the market and his general brilliance, he’s got to be around the £100m mark, especially if Coutinho was £140m.
 

Dov67

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I do remember in Ozil's first or second season that prat Charlie Nicholas practically laughed at the suggestion that Eriksen was better than Ozil.

Ozil reminds me of the kind of player we used to have - all skill/ability and absolutely no balls. I said to a gooner colleague of mine a few months back I hope Ozil signs a 10 year contract with them because he's shit.

He's shit in my opinion, not because he can't play football but because he plays like he couldn't give a toss about the club or his teammates or the his manager or the fans. He'll play well one game in 6/7.

Fergie wouldn't have tolerated his kind and neither would Poch. He only signed his new deal because nobody of any significance came in for him which is telling.
 

steve

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Ozil is a class act but his attitude is poor compared to Eriksen - would that be different under Poch? To some extent I think yes but I'm not convinced he'd work as hard as Christian.

He has got great footballing ability and I don't particularly dislike him (or many of the goon players apart from Jack obvs) but maybe that's because they're a bit shit these days? Even Wenger I quite like, he's a lot more honest and realistic than he used to be but guess he hasn't got much choice.

I appreciate the footy but I really don't like what's happened at City, they were never a small club but Arsenal really are a big club with a history that can't be denied - seeing what's happening these days doesn't feel right to me (Chelsea too).

Pep also fucks me off, he's an end justifies the means character, which I neither agree with or like. Can't deny his qualities as a football manager but his post match interviews have bordered on the unacceptable, mostly last season for obvious reasons.

Anyway as I was saying, Eriksen > Ozil.
 

Dundalk_Spur

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Jul 17, 2008
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Watching Ozil last night he didn't want to be there and really couldn't be arsed.

And thats with a brand new contract. If Wenger stays one more year it could break Ozil.
 
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