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Steffen

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If I remember correctly, that was when Davies had to go off to get his leg checked/sprayed. Rose was asked to get ready just in case, and that's what he's doing there - getting his pants off and watching if he'll get some action ;)

I think Rose gets too much shit, though. He was an idiot saying those things in the media, but now he's here to do as Poch says - we should get behind him. If we can keep both him and Davies, we have fantastic depth on both flanks.
 

worcestersauce

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I think pundits, journalists and most other people just don't get that all they are seeing is steady improvement, they think it's pretty much the same players as last year so they will be the same and so are surprised when we are better, we didn't spunk an absolute fortune on some superstar or anything so how can we be any better?
What is happening is that the players are improving, the management is improving and the system and tactics are developing, the only thing that is the same is the project, they just didn't know the five year project really was a five year project and everything that has happened has been planned.
It's actually brilliant, isn't it.:)
 

homer hotspur

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I wonder what they are amazed at? My guess would be Dembele slapping up Ramos like he was a scared bunny rabbit..
Dodgy moment with that wild swing though - could easily have seen Red. MD does see to get wound up more these days, the Chelsea incident doesn't seem to have calmed it down that much. It's surprising as he seems such a quiet, laid back, character generally.
 

worcestersauce

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why, because he lucked out for once when he hired Pochettino ?
To be fair it wasn't shear luck, he was trying to bring in someone to do what Pochotino is doing with bringing in young players blooding our own youngsters and developing a squad to compete, he tried it with AVB but he wasn't up to it so he moved on, tried for Van Gaal for the same reason, and eventually got Mauricio Pochottino, fair enough it was good fortune that Van Gaal decided he was too good for us and that Poch is as good as he is but his strengths were why Levy wanted him, he who dares ...:) it wasn't an accident.
 

Mullers

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Spurs won’t ever win a trophy. Poch “ It is important for this club not just to win a trophy but the Premier League or Champions league”

Dele Alli is off form “Dele is coming just like winter”

#whatwecanovercome
Well lets not get ahead of ourselves, we showed we have the capability to win trophies but we haven't done it yet.
 

yiddopaul

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why, because he lucked out for once when he hired Pochettino ?
You could say united got lucky with fergie, Arsenal with Wenger. There are no guarantees. Nearly all the appointments Levy made, on paper, were good appointments and made sense, considering who we could attract based on where we were at the time. Unfortunately most didn't work out. Fergie could have come to Spurs, and failed miserably.
 

tototoner

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Well lets not get ahead of ourselves, we showed we have the capability to win trophies but we haven't done it yet.

Exactly, we are in our longest running barren trophy spell since the 1950's . We are making progress right now but we haven't won anything under Pochettino yet and only 1 trophy in 16 years under Levy's stewardship, unless some fans want to add the new training facility and new stadium to our honour roll
 

tototoner

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You could say united got lucky with fergie, Arsenal with Wenger. There are no guarantees. Nearly all the appointments Levy made, on paper, were good appointments and made sense, considering who we could attract based on where we were at the time. Unfortunately most didn't work out. Fergie could have come to Spurs, and failed miserably.

Man Utd certainly got lucky with Ferguson, they were a big club before he joined them, they are now a monster.

I really hope Pochettino can do the same for us
 

yiddopaul

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Exactly, we are in our longest running barren trophy spell since the 1950's . We are making progress right now but we haven't won anything under Pochettino yet and only 1 trophy in 16 years under Levy's stewardship, unless some fans want to add the new training facility and new stadium to our honour roll
Sustained success as apposed to a one off trophy, requires foundations. Both on and off the pitch. We are now beginning to see the fruits of not just the Poch era, but the last 10-15 years. We will win trophies, but we'll be challenging for titles as well. We're probably seeing the birth of the greatest ever Spurs team. Lets not forget, Chelsea and City changed the landscape of football. It's much harder to win trophies now than previously.
 

spursfan77

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"You can't sell world class players and still compete at the top level(Walker)."

"Spurs have a great starting 11 but their lack of squad depth will cost them"

"Spurs drawn in group of death will be in the Europa by February"

"One man team when Kane isn't scoring they struggle"

"They can't play at Wembley, the pitch is too big and they will struggle to get results, as it's a cup final for their opponents."


Think most pundits, and journo's are now in full back track mode, and are believing that we are actually the real deals. They are now understanding we have a coach that has the tactical and motivational prowess and players of sufficient ability to overcome these hurdles they keep insisting were in front of us. I'm sure many will now revert to the pre Summer transfer window "They will all be off in the Summer to bigger teams" bandwagon.

There does seem to be more and more that are understanding the project and philosophy is more important than the money being spent, but expect a surge in our players being linked to the Elite European teams, but I'm adamant we will continue to prove them wrong.

They'll find something to put as down with.

One article this morning had how beating Madrid was actually bad as they would now sack Zidane and appoint Poch. Just such bullshit.
 

tototoner

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They'll find something to put as down with.

One article this morning had how beating Madrid was actually bad as they would now sack Zidane and appoint Poch. Just such bullshit.

I actually heard that on Talksport yesterday, cannot remember who it was but they said it would be better for Tottenham in the long run to let Madrid beat us otherwise they would try to poach Pochettino, might have been Andy Jacobs winding up Paul Hawksbee
 

Trix

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Exactly, we are in our longest running barren trophy spell since the 1950's . We are making progress right now but we haven't won anything under Pochettino yet and only 1 trophy in 16 years under Levy's stewardship, unless some fans want to add the new training facility and new stadium to our honour roll

Doesn't mean you can't give credit for what Levy is getting right
. I know some of our fans still live in the 60's "To Dare is to do" blah blah blah, but the game has moved on significantly since then, and it is nowhere near the level-ish playing field it once was. The game is no longer about glory it is about money. So for us to be where we are and competing is an achievement in itself. We are moving in the right direction but of course it is going to take longer than if some oil rich play boy was to throw a billion pounds at it.

Don't get me wrong Levy is far from perfect and has made some monumentus mistakes in the past which have cost us. But it's only fair when criticising him for those fuck up's, to say well done when he gets stuff right imo.
 

spursfan77

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I actually heard that on Talksport yesterday, cannot remember who it was but they said it would be better for Tottenham in the long run to let Madrid beat us otherwise they would try to poach Pochettino, might have been Andy Jacobs winding up Paul Hawksbee

I can't see posh going to Madrid to be sacked in 2 years just like every other coach that they've had.
 

Mullers

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I actually heard that on Talksport yesterday, cannot remember who it was but they said it would be better for Tottenham in the long run to let Madrid beat us otherwise they would try to poach Pochettino, might have been Andy Jacobs winding up Paul Hawksbee
I'm sure Madrid will try and get him if they sack Zidane, he won't want to go there though, I think he relishes the challenge with us. In Madrid he might last only one season or less.
 

shelfmonkey

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Exactly, we are in our longest running barren trophy spell since the 1950's . We are making progress right now but we haven't won anything under Pochettino yet and only 1 trophy in 16 years under Levy's stewardship, unless some fans want to add the new training facility and new stadium to our honour roll

You can't turn an oil tanker round on a sixpence, it takes time. I was frustrated with what Levy was doing and moaned as good as anyone, but eventually the penny dropped!
 
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