Toby Aldeweireld - Where Is His Contract Extension ?

cliff jones · Dec 31, 2017

mill said:
I’m hoping it signaled the club were planning for his possible departure and had the foresight to bed his replacement in a year before he leaves. That’s how to do things

You're probably right, in doing the deal Levy showed Toby he wasn't going to be held to ransom. But we've seen that injuries and suspensions playing in four comps with three CBs more often than not requires five players of a certain standard. Levy would have to re enter the market again IF agreement with Toby can't be struck. I wouldn't think of McGuire either, Tarkowski and the Brighton lads look pretty solid...

Hengy1 · Dec 31, 2017

coys200 said:
So he has 2.5 years then. Till 2020 don’t really get what all the fuss is about . He will then be 31.

That’s including the year extension I think

coys200 · Dec 31, 2017

If the market stayed the same and Toby maintained current forn what would he actually be worth at 30 ? Can’t see anyone paying more than £40m. So the club are probably pretty chilled and wouldn’t see it as a disaster.

spids · Dec 31, 2017

So at the end of the season after this one he can leave (at 30) for £25M? Don’t sweat. He’ll play very well this season and next if he’s playing for his last move. If by then we are still challenging for the EPL and CL, and Levy has NFL and naming rights money in the bank, maybe we’ll keep him or maybe we’ll upgrade. No drama.

Hengy1 · Dec 31, 2017

Not getting the he’ll be 30 comments. That’s not old for a CB especially one that’s so good in anticipation.

coys200 · Dec 31, 2017

Also it depends what Toby wants length wise. Personally I wouldn’t be happy to go beyond 33. I reckon he probably wants to 35. It’s clear Poch doesn’t fancy older players. Even dembele at 30 is looking an old man in this team.

coys200 · Dec 31, 2017

Hengy1 said:
Not getting the he’ll be 30 comments. That’s not old for a CB especially one that’s so good in anticipation.

Not saying it’s old but obviously affects his value. It probably means we’d get £10-15m less than his market which they are probably chilled about. Not like Arsenal losing £150m this summer. Honestly feel this whole situation has been blown massively out of proportion. Obviously wouldn’t like to lose Toby at 30 but it wouldn’t be some major catastrophe. If Foyth isn’t the replacement we still have 18 months to find one and minimum £25m to put towards it.

Shadydan · Jan 1, 2018

coys200 said:
Also it depends what Toby wants length wise. Personally I wouldn’t be happy to go beyond 33. I reckon he probably wants to 35. It’s clear Poch doesn’t fancy older players. Even dembele at 30 is looking an old man in this team.

DCSPUR · Jan 1, 2018

Poch is calm!

spursfan77 · Jan 1, 2018

The Mirror reporting that he will be on less than half of what can dijk is on like it's us in the wrong. Wait a minute, surely it's us winning in that equation!

FreddieYid · Jan 1, 2018

spursfan77 said:
The Mirror reporting that he will be on less than half of what can dijk is on like it's us in the wrong. Wait a minute, surely it's us winning in that equation!

If we start losing players because of our wages, but Liverpool can pay significantly more without crippling their club, then no we’re not winning.

Led's Zeppelin · Jan 1, 2018

FreddieYid said:
If we start losing players because of our wages, but Liverpool can pay significantly more without crippling their club, then no we’re not winning.

You start that sentence with an “If” though, meaning there’s another possibility.

The other side of it is, “If players are happy to play for Spurs for less money than they demand to play for Liverpool, then yes, we are winning.”

To repeat myself; so much of this is pure guesswork, and we are not ALWAYS justified in assuming the worst.

coys200 · Jan 1, 2018

Feel a bit sorry for Toby tbh 50k a week is a bit shit

. No but seriously when you see VVD on on 180k I’d be pissed. Personally if I was Levy I’d actually feel a bit guilty and offer him at least £100k. If we have offered him that and he’s turned it down then I guess it’s down to Toby. But at least we know he will give 100% for next 18 months. I think he would anyway. But he’s got a World Cup and then he’d be playing for his big pay day. Essentially we’ve got him over a barrel.

FreddieYid · Jan 1, 2018

Led's Zeppelin said:
You start that sentence with an “If” though, meaning there’s another possibility.

The other side of it is, “If players are happy to play for Spurs for less money than they demand to play for Liverpool, then yes, we are winning.”

To repeat myself; so much of this is pure guesswork, and we are not ALWAYS justified in assuming the worst.

I started with ‘If’, because as things stand we haven’t yet lost a number of key players due to higher wages on offer at rival clubs.

And I also used ‘If’ because I’m assuming is that Liverpool are spending (wages and fees) within their means.

Gb160 · Jan 1, 2018

coys200 said:
Feel a bit sorry for Toby tbh 50k a week is a bit shit . No but seriously when you see VVD on on 180k I’d be pissed. Personally if I was Levy I’d actually feel a bit guilty and offer him at least £100k.

I just dont understand this thinking, what the fuck has Levy got to feel guilty about?
Toby was happy to accept £50kpw not just when he signed, but for the entire duration of the contract, thats how contracts work mate.
It makes absolutely no difference what the bin dippers choose to pay their players.
None whatsoever.

FreddieYid · Jan 1, 2018

Gb160 said:
I just dont understand this thinking, what the fuck has Levy got to feel guilty about?
Toby was happy to accept £50kpw not just when he signed, but for the entire duration of the contract, thats how contracts work mate.
It makes absolutely no difference what the bin dippers choose to pay their players.
None whatsoever.

In an ideal world it doesn’t, but in reality what players ‘x, y, and z’ earn elsewhere determines your market value.

So if Toby sees CB’s of comparable or lesser ability earning 3 times what he does, he will inevitably want what he feels he’s worth.

Just like transfer fees are sky rocketing from one season to the next, wages are too. So to expect a player to happily stay on what he felt he was worth 2 1/2 years ago, even though he has been performing well and the market has significantly shifted is a bit idealistic.

Bottom line, we have to pay what we can within our means or face the reality of losing players and struggling to recruit the needed quality. There’s no one who can say that Toby isn’t worth £100k+ in todays market.

tiger666 · Jan 1, 2018

FreddieYid said:
I agree and in an ideal world it doesn’t, but in reality what players ‘x, y, and z’ earn elsewhere determines your market value.

So if Toby sees CB’s of comparable or lesser ability earning 3 times what he does, he will inevitably want what he feels he’s worth.

I'm sure we'll be offering what he's worth but in no way should we feel 'guilty' for his current contract he agreed on 5 years ago or whenever it was.

FreddieYid · Jan 1, 2018

tiger666 said:
I'm sure we'll be offering what he's worth but in no way should we feel 'guilty' for his current contract he agreed on 5 years ago or whenever it was.

I agree 100%. My post was in response to the below point

‘It makes absolutely no difference what the bin dippers choose to pay their players.
None whatsoever’

Unfortunately what other clubs pay their players does impact us and make a big difference to how our player view their contracts.

Gb160 · Jan 1, 2018

FreddieYid said:
I agree 100%. My post was in response to the below point

‘It makes absolutely no difference what the bin dippers choose to pay their players.
None whatsoever’

Unfortunately what other clubs pay their players does impact us and make a big difference to how our player view their contracts.

You're missing the point I was making, and taking the quoted part out of context...which was whether Liverpool spending silly money should make Levy feel guilty about a contract that was agreed 2.5 years ago.

FreddieYid · Jan 1, 2018

Gb160 said:
You're missing the point I was making, which was whether Liverpool spending silly money should make Levy feel guilty about a contract that was agreed 2.5 years ago.

I wasn’t defending the ‘Levy feeling guilty’ comment made by @coys200.

The point I was making was, what other clubs pay their players does have a huge impact on us.

Anyway I think we’ve both made our points.

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