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That the same walker that Just cost city their place in the FA Cup?
And is a crucial part of the best team in the country and the Champions League favourites. Yeah, that guy.
That the same walker that Just cost city their place in the FA Cup?
Whether it’s true or not about Toby, Jan Vertonghen needs to be recognised for his commitment and loyalty.
Comfortably the best CB in the league in his debut season then got cruelly scapegoated by a lot of the spurs fan base and could’ve quite rightly quit the club. He kicked on, signed away his prime years to us for way less than £100k a week and has proven that he is the best CB in the league and potentially the best in Europe. To my knowledge he has never spoken about about being unhappy or wanting to leave.
Love Jan. A modern spurs great.
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I give up. How many points has Aurier cost us?
Love Toby as much as Kane - he's been key to our improved goal difference the last couple of seasons (Remember when we were finishing seasons with +5 GD??).
Not just that - his attacking contribution, accurate long balls, runs in the box/headers from corners/goals.
His basic composure under pressure. Always knowing what to do. Only ever picking up a yellow card when he absolutely HAS to take one for the team.
I thoroughly enjoy watching Spurs when he's in the starting XI. Without him, I revert to a nervous Spurs supporter. Sanchez has been fantastic on the whole, he's no Toby, for me.
Maybe we sell him now and get top dollar for him, bring in more of the players we want. I wouldn't accept anything less than £75m if that's what Van Dijk went for.
I'm not kidding - I don't know how many points he has cost us. I'd be interested in knowing.The guy is currently a liability. Dont kid yourself
Some people on here wanted him benched for Kevin Wimmer last season .
Some people on here wanted him benched for Kevin Wimmer last season .
De Ligt and De Jong are the best I've seen for those positions. De Ligt looks immense, and only 18 or something?I really don’t think we should even consider selling him and I do think it would be a huge loss regardless of how well Sanchez is doing. Not only is Toby one of the best, his understanding with Jan is second to none and together they are pretty much the best CD pairing in the world on their day. Sanchez, as good as he is, still makes rookie mistakes from time to time and sometimes It does seem like Jan has babysit him a little. Let alone the fact that Aurier greatly benafits form Toby’s calmness and experience. But It also seems like it’s out of our hands and I’m sure Walker going to City and doing so well has put ideas in his head. I personaly don’t think it’s just about the money, I reckon he thinks his best chance of winning major honours is to leave the club.
But assuming he forces our hand and does leave then we should probably go for De Ligt as a replacement and then go for a DM assuming Dier will pick up more of the slack in defence. This could be why we are supposedly looking at Diawara.
I'm not kidding - I don't know how many points he has cost us. I'd be interested in knowing.
De Ligt and De Jong are the best I've seen for those positions. De Ligt looks immense, and only 18 or something?
Yeah, he would be one for the future rather then the now, which is why I think Dier would Start playing more in defence and we would get a new DM. As mentioned, a lot talk about us going for Diawara, putting two and two together, he could be the Dier DM replacement.Will take him a minimum 4 years to get to tobys level in the prem and that is being majorly optimistic
Regarding Toby's form and recovery from injury - people were prepared to write off Dembele and now look at him.
Form is temporary, class is permanent.
It is "ok" of he goes. Nobody is here saying "hell yeah bugger off". But we are saying it's not worth jumping off a cliff over. He's been amazing and revolutionzed our leaky defense but the team has grown around him. We would not be better without him but I don't think we'll be amazingly worse. Probably about equal to what we are now, a top 4 level quality side constantly competing in the top 6 of the league. Everything beyond that is just excessive pessimism for the sake of it.Letd not do this again to ourselves and pretend its ok if he goes.
We did it with Walker and we are currently worse off for it
He has started 18 matches for Spurs: 12-4-2 ~ 2.2 points per gameI didnt say he has cost us points. Being s liability doesnt mean you're not lucky
2 stupid pens, a red card. He should have got another red card.
It is "ok" of he goes. Nobody is here saying "hell yeah bugger off". But we are saying it's not worth jumping off a cliff over. He's been amazing and revolutionzed our leaky defense but the team has grown around him. We would not be better without him but I don't think we'll be amazingly worse. Probably about equal to what we are now, a top 4 level quality side constantly competing in the top 6 of the league. Everything beyond that is just excessive pessimism for the sake of it.