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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

donny1013

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Whether it’s true or not about Toby, Jan Vertonghen needs to be recognised for his commitment and loyalty.

Comfortably the best CB in the league in his debut season then got cruelly scapegoated by a lot of the spurs fan base and could’ve quite rightly quit the club. He kicked on, signed away his prime years to us for way less than £100k a week and has proven that he is the best CB in the league and potentially the best in Europe. To my knowledge he has never spoken about about being unhappy or wanting to leave.

Love Jan. A modern spurs great.

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Fantastic post. One that most outside of Spurs wouldn’t understand. Has been amazing for us.
 

daryl hannah

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Love Toby as much as Kane - he's been key to our improved goal difference the last couple of seasons (Remember when we were finishing seasons with +5 GD??).

Not just that - his attacking contribution, accurate long balls, runs in the box/headers from corners/goals.

His basic composure under pressure. Always knowing what to do. Only ever picking up a yellow card when he absolutely HAS to take one for the team.

I thoroughly enjoy watching Spurs when he's in the starting XI. Without him, I revert to a nervous Spurs supporter. Sanchez has been fantastic on the whole, he's no Toby, for me.

Maybe we sell him now and get top dollar for him, bring in more of the players we want. I wouldn't accept anything less than £75m if that's what Van Dijk went for.
 

bubble07

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Love Toby as much as Kane - he's been key to our improved goal difference the last couple of seasons (Remember when we were finishing seasons with +5 GD??).

Not just that - his attacking contribution, accurate long balls, runs in the box/headers from corners/goals.

His basic composure under pressure. Always knowing what to do. Only ever picking up a yellow card when he absolutely HAS to take one for the team.

I thoroughly enjoy watching Spurs when he's in the starting XI. Without him, I revert to a nervous Spurs supporter. Sanchez has been fantastic on the whole, he's no Toby, for me.

Maybe we sell him now and get top dollar for him, bring in more of the players we want. I wouldn't accept anything less than £75m if that's what Van Dijk went for.

WE CANNOT GET ANYONE BETTER. No point trying to sugar coat it
 

Ghost Hardware

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I really don’t think we should even consider selling him and I do think it would be a huge loss regardless of how well Sanchez is doing. Not only is Toby one of the best, his understanding with Jan is second to none and together they are pretty much the best CD pairing in the world on their day. Sanchez, as good as he is, still makes rookie mistakes from time to time and sometimes It does seem like Jan has to babysit him a little. Let alone the fact that Aurier greatly benafits form Toby’s calmness and experience. But It also seems like it’s out of our hands and I’m sure Walker going to City and doing so well has put ideas in his head. I personaly don’t think it’s just about the money, I reckon he thinks his best chance of winning major honours is to leave the club.

But assuming he forces our hand and does leave then we should probably go for De Ligt as a replacement and then go for a DM assuming Dier will pick up more of the slack in defence. This could be why we are supposedly looking at Diawara.
 

daryl hannah

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I really don’t think we should even consider selling him and I do think it would be a huge loss regardless of how well Sanchez is doing. Not only is Toby one of the best, his understanding with Jan is second to none and together they are pretty much the best CD pairing in the world on their day. Sanchez, as good as he is, still makes rookie mistakes from time to time and sometimes It does seem like Jan has babysit him a little. Let alone the fact that Aurier greatly benafits form Toby’s calmness and experience. But It also seems like it’s out of our hands and I’m sure Walker going to City and doing so well has put ideas in his head. I personaly don’t think it’s just about the money, I reckon he thinks his best chance of winning major honours is to leave the club.

But assuming he forces our hand and does leave then we should probably go for De Ligt as a replacement and then go for a DM assuming Dier will pick up more of the slack in defence. This could be why we are supposedly looking at Diawara.
De Ligt and De Jong are the best I've seen for those positions. De Ligt looks immense, and only 18 or something?
 

bubble07

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I'm not kidding - I don't know how many points he has cost us. I'd be interested in knowing.

I didnt say he has cost us points. Being s liability doesnt mean you're not lucky

2 stupid pens, a red card. He should have got another red card.
 

daryl hannah

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Regarding Toby's form and recovery from injury - people were prepared to write off Dembele and now look at him.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Will take him a minimum 4 years to get to tobys level in the prem and that is being majorly optimistic
Yeah, he would be one for the future rather then the now, which is why I think Dier would Start playing more in defence and we would get a new DM. As mentioned, a lot talk about us going for Diawara, putting two and two together, he could be the Dier DM replacement.
 

coys200

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Regarding Toby's form and recovery from injury - people were prepared to write off Dembele and now look at him.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Tell Torres hamstrings that. Let’s see toby prove he’s still the same player. 17/18 Toby has not been 15/16 Toby and that was before the injury.
 

Univarn

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Letd not do this again to ourselves and pretend its ok if he goes.

We did it with Walker and we are currently worse off for it
It is "ok" of he goes. Nobody is here saying "hell yeah bugger off". But we are saying it's not worth jumping off a cliff over. He's been amazing and revolutionzed our leaky defense but the team has grown around him. We would not be better without him but I don't think we'll be amazingly worse. Probably about equal to what we are now, a top 4 level quality side constantly competing in the top 6 of the league. Everything beyond that is just excessive pessimism for the sake of it.
 

coys200

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Can anyone remember who absolutely skinned Toby this season I think it was at Wembley.. was one of those really alarming moments when you went wow did that just happen.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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I didnt say he has cost us points. Being s liability doesnt mean you're not lucky

2 stupid pens, a red card. He should have got another red card.
He has started 18 matches for Spurs: 12-4-2 ~ 2.2 points per game

The two losses were Man United away, and Leicester away. The draws were @Juve, @Real Madrid, home to West Ham, and @Soton

If he is not costing us points, then we are not worse off this season with Aurier instead of Walker. Even more so when you consider Walker paid for Aurier and Lucas.
 

coys200

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It is "ok" of he goes. Nobody is here saying "hell yeah bugger off". But we are saying it's not worth jumping off a cliff over. He's been amazing and revolutionzed our leaky defense but the team has grown around him. We would not be better without him but I don't think we'll be amazingly worse. Probably about equal to what we are now, a top 4 level quality side constantly competing in the top 6 of the league. Everything beyond that is just excessive pessimism for the sake of it.

Exactly nobody is saying it’s ideal. But it’s certainly not kane or Eriksen levels. And we’d get top whack for an injury prone 29 yr old CB.
 
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