Player Watch: Juan Foyth

DEFchenkOE · Feb 28, 2018

Think he's got huge potential. So smooth on the ball could probably play midfield (Argentinian Dier???)

He'd probably get bullied aerially by some opponents right now but should be able to work on that as he develops.

eddiev14 · Mar 1, 2018

Yid121 said:
Question... Good enough to play v Swansea? I'm not sure I'd risk it if Jan and Toby are fit...

I’d definitely play him.

glospur · Mar 1, 2018

allpaths said:
imo Foyth was slightly caught off guard with his body shape. But to me the biggest problem came from Dier, who was far too deep and too wide left which totally ruined the shape of the back four which left our Foyth exposed.

That's because that's where he is supposed to be when playing out from the back in order for Vorm to have an option on either side.

Dier can't anticipate that Vorm is going to take an age to kick the ball and have it take a deflection and land at a Rochdale player's feet in midfield. There's not a CB who would be quick enough to get back in position from that.

Rose was the same. The fullbacks are supposed to be high and wide in that situation.

You can't criticise a player for being exactly where he is supposed to be.

Anyway, a couple of tweets I loved from the usually excellent BankruptSpurs on Foyth that perfectly sum him up imo.

Bankrupt‏@bankruptspurs 7h7 hours ago
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I predict, with some confidence, that within 12 months I will love Juan Foyth like a son, and yer da will hate him like Michel Barnier.

Bankrupt‏@bankruptspurs 6h6 hours ago
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Pretty much already at the point where I don't even care if he can defend. He's just too good to watch on the ball for it to matter. Central defenders Cruyff-turning past two players by his corner flag then playing a 30-yard pass, through two lines, to feet, is what I live for.

allpaths · Mar 1, 2018

glospur said:
That's because that's where he is supposed to be when playing out from the back in order for Vorm to have an option on either side.

Dier can't anticipate that Vorm is going to take an age to kick the ball and have it take a deflection and land at a Rochdale player's feet in midfield. There's not a CB who would be quick enough to get back in position from that.

Rose was the same. The fullbacks are supposed to be high and wide in that situation.

You can't criticise a player for being exactly where he is supposed to be.

ehm, youve got it wrong, we didn't concede from a Vorm clearance, that resulted with Rochdale hitting the post shortly after they had equalized. When we conceded we lost posession in midfield along our left side. see at around 4:30

glospur · Mar 1, 2018

allpaths said:
ehm, youve got it wrong, we didn't concede from a Vorm clearance, that resulted with Rochdale hitting the post shortly after they had equalized. When we conceded we lost posession in midfield along our left side. see at around 4:30

As soon as I posted that, I started to question myself if it was that which led to the goal, but I didnt have time to double check.

Thanks for the correction and my apologies.

Having watched it again now, I'm still not sure how you've come to the conclusion that it's Dier's fault. He's covering Rose who is further up the pitch. If anything, It should actually be Trippier who is around on teh cover marking the goal scorer as it is customary for every player to shift over when the ball is on the far side of the pitch.

Dier has to be in that position otherwise he would be leaving a Rochdale player by himself on our left hand side.

Also, that does come from a goal kick, does it not? Or is it a Dier clearance? In the replay of the goal you can see that Dier is moving up from a deep left position.

littlewilly · Mar 1, 2018

I just love watching this very talented young man. Oozes class and self-confidence.

allpaths · Mar 1, 2018

glospur said:
As soon as I posted that, I started to question myself if it was that which led to the goal, but I didnt have time to double check.

Thanks for the correction and my apologies.

Having watched it again now, I'm still not sure how you've come to the conclusion that it's Dier's fault. He's covering Rose who is further up the pitch. If anything, It should actually be Trippier who is around on teh cover marking the goal scorer as it is customary for every player to shift over when the ball is on the far side of the pitch.

Dier has to be in that position otherwise he would be leaving a Rochdale player by himself on our left hand side.

Also, that does come from a goal kick, does it not? Or is it a Dier clearance? In the replay of the goal you can see that Dier is moving up from a deep left position.

I think it was from a clearance that Dier made, not a 100% certain, but I still feel he had more than enough time to get back into a better more central position. Watching it live I was still reeling from disbelief after that debacle of a pen. Felt he was just being a tad bit lazy/was caught watching the ball instead of anticipating potential danger.

IMO I want my centerback in that situation to protect the area of the pitch were the most damage can be afflicted, the center. And by Dier being deeper and that far left then the rest of the back four, it pulls Foyth over to the left more leaving a large amount of space to exploit. Let Rochdale play it down the flank that gives time us to get numbers back.

Of course Trippier was at fault also, but it all starts from Dier being out of position.

sammyj · Mar 1, 2018

Could be a world-class defender

BringBack_leGin · Mar 1, 2018

Like I said, should Toby decide the grass is greener elsewhere, and I sincerely hope he doesn't, then with this kid and big Dave we have done our succession planning.

TheHoddleWaddle · Mar 1, 2018

Foyth, on current trajectory coud be a Rolls Royce defender, the kind that can play football and pass as well as defend.

Something I have noticed, is his exeptional ball control. The las is class with the ball at his feet and keeps his head up looking for a pass.

Much like I consider Dier to be a better CB than a DMC, I think Foyth could be an exceptionally good creative CM / ball playing CM (aswell as a CB). He certainly has the skill set.

Hengy1 · Mar 1, 2018

Good on the Ball but bad defensively.

Poor positioning, poor decision making, not strong enough.

Luckily you can teach or work on them.

Spurs 1961 · Mar 1, 2018

Fourth is just class. The young man suggests he has the versatility that Poch loves and who knows what plans the manager has for him. Love the fact we are buying players like Foyth and Sanchez with intelligence allied to skill and strength

coys200 · Mar 1, 2018

Yeah I think the goal is down to Trippier if anyone. When we lose the ball everyone is pretty much in expected position except probably Trippier bit too wide. Rochdale weirdly have 3 forward all over to our left hand side. Rose is upfield which is ok but then basically they have 3 against Dier/foyth so Dier goes over fo cover danger. Leaving foyth marking 2. Trippier has to come over and cover for him but gets there too late. Maybe a bit harsh on Trippier, the real error is losing ball in midfield.

Japhet · Mar 1, 2018

DEFchenkOE said:
Think he's got huge potential. So smooth on the ball could probably play midfield (Argentinian Dier???)

He'd probably get bullied aerially by some opponents right now but should be able to work on that as he develops.

I reckon players who could bully Foyth could also bully the vast majority of CBs in the EPL. We've seen Rondon give Sanchez a hard time (but only for a few seconds) and the big brute type of CF is becoming a bit redundant these days. The top teams seem to go more for the nippy, skillful types like Sanchez, Aguero, Morata. and the only CF who has both aspects in his locker is ours anyway.

WalkerboyUK · Mar 1, 2018

Good player, with a shit ton of potential, but I think he needs to bulk up physically.

Univarn · Mar 1, 2018

Look forward to Foyth getting his kit custome fitted with a muscle suit underneath just so you all stop worrying about whether or not he is tough enough.

Lemon · Mar 1, 2018

Spurs 1961 said:
Fourth is just class. The young man suggests he has the versatility that Poch loves and who knows what plans the manager has for him. Love the fact we are buying players like Foyth and Sanchez with intelligence allied to skill and strength

Who also turned down PSG for us.

For me he is now just about level with Dier in the CB rankings, one good performance against a stronger team like Swansea and he's ready for Prem, IMO.

Jimmypearce7 · Mar 1, 2018

He brings the ball out nicely like John Stones. Suggests a good player and I want him to succeed of course but he is miles off being good enough for the PL. Poor concentration, mistakes and out muscled. Look at their goal last night, where he waived his foot toward the ball.

coys200 · Mar 1, 2018

Jimmypearce7 said:
He brings the ball out nicely like John Stones. Suggests a good player and I want him to succeed of course but he is miles off being good enough for the PL. Poor concentration, mistakes and out muscled. Look at their goal last night, where he waived his foot toward the ball.

Trying reading this page. Goal was nothing to do with him he was left marking 2 players.

Jimmypearce7 · Mar 1, 2018

coys200 said:
Trying reading this page. Goal was nothing to do with him he was left marking 2 players.

I was at the match and it happened right in front of me, so I could see it. He feebly waves his foot at the ball as it passes.
Try watching it on the video highlights.

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