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Josiebyar

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It’s seat blocking, bet they got friends in later phases.My group of friends have done the same thing.

club is moving these single seats so you'll soon find some very annoyed people who thought they were too clever...
 

manic041

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5 year rolling loyalty was always a joke. We're not the only club to adopt a similar thing though. I know some clubs allocate seats to cup finals and semi finals based on how many games you've been to in that cup competition that season unlike us with the loyalty point scheme.

The loyalty system did help me get tickets to Arsenal away though which would never have happened before as it favoured people who had season tickets for 10+ years over people going regularly now so the same people could go to the 1 or 2 away games every season and sell out the allocation. I recall the club saying they did it because of that at the time, to allow younger generations go to these games to generate a better atmosphere or something along these lines? That was soon scrapped and they said they didn't have accurate information on loyalty points like they hadn't stored them or some work experience kid had wiped all their records!

I found that it worked in my favour as was only 16 when it was introduced (had been to a few away games) then when the rolling basis started and I started to work i could afford to go/able to get tickets to more away games. Still had to go to places like Preston and Reading midweek to get the points up to a level where now i am able to go to pretty much any game i want to (approaching 600 points) but do understand the flip side where people now can't go as their previously accumulated points were wiped out.

The new system now rewards constant loyalty over a number of years instead of points hoarders (as you've described) but no system will be perfect and please everyone
 

Dougal

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Yeah I understand that, and I have a pretty similar experience to you. I have no problem with a fan who has been a long term ST holder, but also goes away etc being ahead of me in the queue. I just have the hump with how they've cocked up the records, meaning people approaching 20 years etc may find themselves scrabbling for a seat up in the gods which still cost a lot more than their previous seat. Nobody can convince me that a seat behind the goal high up in the new stadium is a better seat than close to the half way line of the East Lower in the old WHL, despite the "facilities".

I still haven't heard a credible reason why they haven't just tried to relocate fans as close as possible to where they were in WHL.
It’ll never be the same again. We just have to adapt or jump off. The price of progress. Which is fine as long as we make progress. Personally I had many great days and nights in a 36,000 ground. And I had sat in every stand and had season tickets in three of them.
 

ERO

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Everyone in the top ~40k or so of the waiting list now was offered a season ticket last year and said no. I can't imagine many of them will want one now it costs 40% or so more.

Huh? Everyone in the top 40 k did definitely not say no to a season ticket.
 

nicdic

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Yeah I understand that, and I have a pretty similar experience to you. I have no problem with a fan who has been a long term ST holder, but also goes away etc being ahead of me in the queue. I just have the hump with how they've cocked up the records, meaning people approaching 20 years etc may find themselves scrabbling for a seat up in the gods which still cost a lot more than their previous seat. Nobody can convince me that a seat behind the goal high up in the new stadium is a better seat than close to the half way line of the East Lower in the old WHL, despite the "facilities".

I still haven't heard a credible reason why they haven't just tried to relocate fans as close as possible to where they were in WHL.

I mean this just isn't even true. If you've had a season ticket for 20+ years, you will be in at least phase 3, even if you had 0 loyalty points. You'd be between the 10,001st and 15,000th person to choose a seat out of up to 42,000.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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If it was all historic loyalty points for all time, no one would ever get anywhere. The old timers would sit atop the tree come rain or shine, whether they go to additional games or not. They'd have to die of old age to allow people up. It needed changing.

With regards to people being uneasy about being in Window 2-3 - where would you have been in the old stadium? Where would you have been at Wembley?
Also, don't panic yet - a lot of people in window 1 are waiting for their friends/family in window 3 so you'll find there will be a lot of choice still.

Think about us in Window 8 before you complain ;-)
Especially as us new season ticket holders lost all our hard earned loyalty points prior to our season tickets and had to start from zilch.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Huh? Everyone in the top 40 k did definitely not say no to a season ticket.

About 1 in 3 uptake rate I believe. I got one at 53k on the list. That was based on the 18k additional tickets issued for Wembley so 18k tickets went to about 55k on the list. 18k / 55k = 0.32
 

Westmorland

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It's going to be another Wembley situation where the TV cameras pick up the massive empty corporate section bang in the middle of the East lower
Same at Liverpool they have 4K corporate right in the middle of the new stand empty as second half kicks off
 

nicdic

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Everyone moans about the corporates not being back at kick off for second half, when tonnes of regular ticketed fans are in late for kick off, out for lots of the game, and miss the beginning of the second half because of boozing.
 

dagraham

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I mean this just isn't even true. If you've had a season ticket for 20+ years, you will be in at least phase 3, even if you had 0 loyalty points. You'd be between the 10,001st and 15,000th person to choose a seat out of up to 42,000.

Depends whether you want or are able to sit in the south stand or not. I know its seen as the holy grail by most Spurs fans, but the provision for safe standing (which basically seem to take up half the stand) immediately takes it out of the equation for some people. I go with my Dad and as good as the South stand is it's not viable for us.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, but by the time Phase 3 starts I expect it will be upper tier or nothing.

It is what it is though and I'll just have to suck it up.
 

Coyboy

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Everyone moans about the corporates not being back at kick off for second half, when tonnes of regular ticketed fans are in late for kick off, out for lots of the game, and miss the beginning of the second half because of boozing.

I never get that. I’ve on one or two occasions had a quick beer and slammed it to get back in time but last year I used to see people in the Park Lane casually drinking into the 50-55th minute watching on the screen.

Don’t get me started on early leavers!
 

Dougal

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I never get that. I’ve on one or two occasions had a quick beer and slammed it to get back in time but last year I used to see people in the Park Lane casually drinking into the 50-55th minute watching on the screen.

Don’t get me started on early leavers!
Didn't you know? The food and drink at a football stadium is the finest in the land. Why eat or drink anywhere else during the week when you can miss a large chunk of 90 minutes of football to get your fill?
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Everyone moans about the corporates not being back at kick off for second half, when tonnes of regular ticketed fans are in late for kick off, out for lots of the game, and miss the beginning of the second half because of boozing.

I never get that. I’ve on one or two occasions had a quick beer and slammed it to get back in time but last year I used to see people in the Park Lane casually drinking into the 50-55th minute watching on the screen.

Don’t get me started on early leavers!

The season ticket holders around me at Wembley, in the cheap arse seats are hardly ever there. All match, not just late.
It's laughable people moan at some one enjoying their cheese and bickies for 5 minutes when "normal" season ticket holders just don't bother to come.
Added to that, a lot of the "normies" (that's what I'm calling them now) drink so much beer before the match and at half time they spend the whole match going back and forth to the bogs. Especially you oldies with your peanut sized bladders.
 

Winchy85

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I am so undecided where to sit. Had my season ticket in the Paxton for 25 years so used to being behind the goal but I am very tempted to get a seat in the East or West Lower. What is everyone's thoughts on pitchside seats - view etc.

I appreciate the atmosphere in the West lower wont be amazing but remember I am used to that in the Paxton! ;)

Personally it's somewhere I would be avoiding. I particularly found the front rows at Wembley awful for watching matches as you are a bit of a way from the pitch and feel lower than the pitch. For the same price, 15 rows up the stand you get a far better perspective of the game, get to see a lot more of what happens and won't find yourself going to the big screen for replays to see what actually happened a lot!
 

Coyboy

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Didn't you know? The food and drink at a football stadium is the finest in the land. Why eat or drink anywhere else during the week when you can miss a large chunk of 90 minutes of football to get your fill?

Ugh I cringed when they said there would be “street food”. Yeah I bet they’re really emulating the experience of buying from market vendors in Mexico or Vietnam.

-That will be £12.95 for that burrito and would you like to pay £2.95 extra for gourmet ketchup?

-sure. Do you take Amex?
 

Dougal

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Ugh I cringed when they said there would be “street food”. Yeah I bet they’re really emulating the experience of buying from market vendors in Mexico or Vietnam.

-That will be £12.95 for that burrito and would you like to pay £2.95 extra for gourmet ketchup?

-sure. Do you take Amex?
I'll be surprised if I ever eat at the ground.
 

stonecolddeanaustin

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I am so undecided where to sit. Had my season ticket in the Paxton for 25 years so used to being behind the goal but I am very tempted to get a seat in the East or West Lower. What is everyone's thoughts on pitchside seats - view etc.

I appreciate the atmosphere in the West lower wont be amazing but remember I am used to that in the Paxton! ;)

I always used to sit in the park lane end before getting a season ticket which was east upper. I came to realise the view from the side of the pitch is far better and allows you to see much better of what's actually going on in the game, especially compared to when the play is in the half opposite to the goal you're sitting behind and you can barely work out if a goal's been scored half the time.

As for the atmosphere, well shelf side was far better than Paxton anyway, since it became the family stand at least. Who knows what it'll be like in the new ground though? Maybe the moaners will be so absorbed by the amazing facilities, which account for half the price of their season ticket, they'll be less inclined to moan now.
 
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