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What the pundits & media are saying about us
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SirHarryHotspur
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Seems newspapers and pundits only want to pick the lines they can twist into " he wants more money or he's off " , not many of them seemed to pick up on this bit from Poch yesterday
" We need to think that our reality is different and our fans need to think and be happy and support us because we are not this type of club that is going to invest crazy money. And all together we need to feel that we are a special club. If we are able to create that feeling that anything is possible in football. We need to be fans and us on the same page, working hard to try to develop the best work, and deliver the best work in trying to win what other clubs are winning. "
" We need to think that our reality is different and our fans need to think and be happy and support us because we are not this type of club that is going to invest crazy money. And all together we need to feel that we are a special club. If we are able to create that feeling that anything is possible in football. We need to be fans and us on the same page, working hard to try to develop the best work, and deliver the best work in trying to win what other clubs are winning. "
worcestersauce
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But that is the point, if nothing changes everything changes.
The increased revenues will make a difference and that is what Shearer completely missed and he missed it because he couldn't be arsed to actually make an effort to understand us or any other club beyond what he can read on the back page of any red top, he doesn't bother because as far as he is concerned he is there to comment on the football which, if he is, means that he ought not comment on financial probabilities of any club whatsoever.
RichieS
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I disagree with your first paragraph and completely agree with your second.
Trying to tread water in third is just as risky as spending to improve our chances of winning the league, perhaps even more so as the former carries a greater risk of dropping out of the top 4 altogether. ENIC are also not that bothered about the club turning a profit - the vast majority gets recycled anyway - but they are bothered about the overall value of the club, which is where the big money's at for them. Their return will eventually come from the fact that they bought Sugar out for £22m and have built a club worth over £1bn.
The model seems in the past to have been wages to turnover running at 60% (I think it's nearer 50% atm as there haven't been many major new contracts or big-salaried signings since the new TV money started hitting the accounts). A few years ago our turnover was down around £200m. The season just finished could see us get towards £400m, and the plan is obviously for that to be maintained at the new ground (i.e. we should make just as much on a match day at NWHL as we did at Wembley despite 30,000 fewer seats*). If we stick with the model, then we're talking about a wage budget of £200m+, in the same ballpark as even both sets of Mancs (at 2016/17 numbers anyway). That's a game changer for us.
*I'm aware that match day income is a relatively small part of the overall turnover and the TV money is where it's at. I've assumed TV to be constant-ish in my subsequent guesstimates.
Gb160
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And Merse of course.
Finger firmly on the pulse that guy, telling it how it is.
Just amazes me they can be so thick. Do they really think Levy went to banks 4 years ago and said “ I’ve this kid called Harry he’s a bit tastey reckon he’ll be worth £200m in 2018, so no worries I can always sell him or this lad from mk Dons we are eyeing up for £100m “ ?
Even the CL money. There’s no way Levy could have guaranteed CL football. So every qualification is a bonus financially.
Even the CL money. There’s no way Levy could have guaranteed CL football. So every qualification is a bonus financially.
FreddieYid
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We’ve been paying for / financing the new stadium for over 10 years... they talk like it’s something Levy dreamt up at the beginning of last season.
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dontcallme
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As long as people watch their shows and click links to their news stories they have revenue.
I have had to delete Sky sports from my phone. Convenient but really shit.
Most of their stories quote their own pundits, hardly counts as journalism.
WalkerboyUK
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Exactly - if you spend enough to actually challenge for the title, then the most likely result of failure to win the league is still a CL qualification.
If the target is just to finish 3/4 in the league, then you're battling with 3 or 4 other teams trying to do the same, and the risk of failure is much greater.
That said, I'm sure the transfer budget will still largely be based on sales, which is why Pochettino seems to want clarity on the sales asap, rather than having Levy haggling for the next 3 months. In my opinion we have to get the outgoings done before players go to the World Cup. Sure, we could have a couple that might have "worldie" tournaments, but is it worth the risk of wait and see??
Bobbins
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The Mail (not exactly pundits I know) lead today with “Poch demands Spurs double his salary and £100m war chest in pursuit of Zaha, Sess and Martial or he’s off”
Couple of things:
£100m is hardly a “war chest” these days - and would barely be enough to get two of those players.
And where they’ve got the idea he wants his salary doubled from I’ve no idea - seems like something they’ve just plucked out of nowhere.
Couple of things:
£100m is hardly a “war chest” these days - and would barely be enough to get two of those players.
And where they’ve got the idea he wants his salary doubled from I’ve no idea - seems like something they’ve just plucked out of nowhere.
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Yeah, what a joke. I can just imagine Parish: "yeah I was offended over your last offer for Zaha but as you are only giving Poch 100 million for transfers, I'll give you a cut price deal for him."
dontcallme
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First sentence was literally Leeds’ way of thinking under Risdale.
rossdapep
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That's true, however what they were doing was ridiculous. Offering obscene amounts of salaries for every player, even if they didn't really have any competition for said player. Leeds also didn't have much stability in the background, their income restricted due to having a medium sized stadium, also add in the factor that there wasn't the TV money or huge investments being pumped in to football clubs back then.
I think we can afford a risk of such and if we don't win a title there won't be much comedown. Poch has helped build some very solid foundations.
WalkerboyUK
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Fortunately Levy isn't Risdale and our club has been run way better than Leeds ever were.
Risdale took out huge loans, based on anticipated CL TV money - only for them to fail to qualify.
Presumably we aren't taking out loans...
dontcallme
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Absolutely, not saying we are in any danger of doing a Leeds if we have a spending spree this summer.
But I would add caution to simply spending.
If we splash £150m on that Kane backup, a midfield destroyer, a goalsoring midfielder and a young centre back and get the new Soldado, Paulinho, Zokora and Chiriches then we don’t improve and likely have to cut some spending at some point in the future.
dontcallme
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Absolutely, I am just saying simply spending is no guarantee of long term improvement.
TheHoddleWaddle
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I don't think there are any guarantees in signings or spending. It's probably why pochettino said spurs need to take a risk. But i'd agrue that generally, the higher the price the less the risk (in terms of quality). Look at some of the
Players that haven't made the grade on a lower spend. Combine their total cost and we probably could have signed a top player.
Or, as I translated it, spend some dough on proven talent, there's always a chance it won't work out, but you've got to take a leap of faith at some.point.if you want to mix it up with the big boys.
Signing hopefuls doesn't always make a Dele or an Eriksen.
dontcallme
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My point is we need to scan the market and judge the ability of available players.
If Sessegnon becomes available then we still need assess correctly what his potential is and how he is currently performing at such a good level.
One report I read suggested he thrived with Taggart covering for him at left back. That will not suit our play as we like our wing backs to get forward more.
We do need to spend and invest but we have a high quality team and shouldn’t think improving all areas is that easy.
