Good and bad changes to football

dontcallme · Jun 13, 2018

Was giving some thought to changes to the game in my lifetime and our initial reaction was to them.

My first memory was the change to the back pass rule. I don’t remember this getting too much resistance at the time. Watching teams 1 goal up calmly passing to the keeper to pick up did take the sting out of a game.

The next one was the playoffs. My memory was this was very much opposed at the time. It was seen as unfair that a team could finish 6th and get promoted on the back of three games at the expense of a team finishing 3rd after 46 games.

In time though it feels this has been embraced and the Championship final is seen as one of the biggest in football.

Personally I am still against changes to the offside rule. It gets too complicated for the officials trying to judge who was interfering with play at different stages of play. Not really bothered by it though.

Naturally we are different ages so have seen different changes in our lives.

Hoping to hear what changes others have seen in their lives and how they view them in hindsight.

Hoping the discussion stays on rules and regulations rather than a money discussion but naturally I can’t control the discussion.

tiger666 · Jun 13, 2018

I agree entirely on the offside rule. I really wish it would go back to being offside, regardless of interfering. It's far too complicated and open to interpretation now.

dontcallme · Jun 13, 2018

Actually just thought of one of the biggest changes, the Bosman ruling.

It has to be morally right for a player out of contract to sign for whoever he wants.

But this helped balance things in big teams favours. Top players leaving for free has hurt many a small side either losing a top player for free or for a low fee once the contract is running short. or offering a large contract to hold onto the player.

Definitely a huge change that morally I have to agree with but has caused havoc for many clubs.

RickyVilla · Jun 13, 2018

I remember when they introduced a cross bar instead of tape. Those were the days.

Gbspurs · Jun 13, 2018

Surely goal line technology is one of the biggest recently. So simple and clear that it's beggers belief that it was resisted for so long.

dontcallme · Jun 13, 2018

Gbspurs said:
Surely goal line technology is one of the biggest recently. So simple and clear that it's beggers belief that it was resisted for so long.

Very true, guess I was looking further back.

The issue with goal line technology was what exactly it would look for.

Goal line technology is working very well, VAR has some serious ironing out to do

'O Zio · Jun 13, 2018

Good change - being allowed more than 1 substitute is pretty good I reckon

Bad change - away goals. For me one of the worst rules in any sport. Completely kills off many second legs that would otherwise have been interesting. I don't see the need for it as well because surely the "unfairness" of one team playing at home is already balanced out by the fact that it's a two-legged tie where both teams get the chance to play at home. I really don't see what the away goal rule adds but it has all kinds of negative consequences. Needs to be scrapped ASAP IMO

dontcallme · Jun 13, 2018

'O Zio said:
Good change - being allowed more than 1 substitute is pretty good I reckon

Bad change - away goals. For me one of the worst rules in any sport. Completely kills off many second legs that would otherwise have been interesting. I don't see the need for it as well because surely the "unfairness" of one team playing at home is already balanced out by the fact that it's a two-legged tie where both teams get the chance to play at home. I really don't see what the away goal rule adds but it has all kinds of negative consequences. Needs to be scrapped ASAP IMO

I don't remember when away goas was introduced and it has never made much sense.

I remember golden goal was introduced with the idea of making teams attack more for that goal. The result was the opposite and teams generally played more conservatively.

Away goals never seemed to have much of a purpose. I assume the idea is to reward the team attacking more away but that is weak at best. Always an anti-climatic finale for me.

dontcallme · Jun 13, 2018

'O Zio said:
Good change - being allowed more than 1 substitute is pretty good I reckon

Bad change - away goals. For me one of the worst rules in any sport. Completely kills off many second legs that would otherwise have been interesting. I don't see the need for it as well because surely the "unfairness" of one team playing at home is already balanced out by the fact that it's a two-legged tie where both teams get the chance to play at home. I really don't see what the away goal rule adds but it has all kinds of negative consequences. Needs to be scrapped ASAP IMO

A quick Wiki search suggests away goals was first introduced in 1956 so before my time.

'O Zio · Jun 13, 2018

dontcallme said:
I don't remember when away goas was introduced and it has never made much sense.

I remember golden goal was introduced with the idea of making teams attack more for that goal. The result was the opposite and teams generally played more conservatively.

Away goals never seemed to have much of a purpose. I assume the idea is to reward the team attacking more away but that is weak at best. Always an anti-climatic finale for me.

Yeah the point was to stop teams just parking the bus away from home and then playing properly in the second leg at home I suppose, but it doesn't really work because teams still just do that. Like I say it ruins loads of second legs where one team is coming back into it but then they give up 1 goal to the away team and all of a sudden they've gone from needing 1 more goal to level it up to now needing 3 more goals to stay in the competition, you then see all the heads drop and the excitement from the crowd completely goes dead.

dontcallme said:
A quick Wiki search suggests away goals was first introduced in 1956 so before my time.

Yeah long before my time as well. It just drives me mad every season when the CL knockouts come on.

Hakkz · Jun 13, 2018

dontcallme said:
Actually just thought of one of the biggest changes, the Bosman ruling.

It has to be morally right for a player out of contract to sign for whoever he wants.

But this helped balance things in big teams favours. Top players leaving for free has hurt many a small side either losing a top player for free or for a low fee once the contract is running short. or offering a large contract to hold onto the player.

Definitely a huge change that morally I have to agree with but has caused havoc for many clubs.

... if it's not the team's biggest rivals, he shall then instead be shot!

NinjaTuna · Jun 13, 2018

In terms of changes I'd like to see, I'd be interested in a rule similar to rugby whereby the ball isn't out of play until it touches the floor

Geyzer Soze · Jun 13, 2018

dontcallme · Jun 13, 2018

Another relatively recent change was red cards being given forviolent tackles from behind.

I personally loved this one. As a defender Ilove seeing players who have learnt how to time and execute a tackle perfectly. Watching Ledly was fantastic and in my view Paolo Maldini was the best player in the 90s.

So taking out the ability for coward's tackles was a big positive for me.

Lemon · Jun 13, 2018

Gloves for Goalkeepers, not rule change, but being a Goalkeeper in the late 70's I recall being much less freezing when we dominated with some gloves on!

This type of bad boy, can still smell them now :

Dundalk_Spur · Jun 13, 2018

The six second rule, seemingly forgotten by every referee after the first season it was introduced.

Lemon · Jun 13, 2018

1 sub is now 3 from 7.

UncleBuck · Jun 13, 2018

dontcallme said:
Actually just thought of one of the biggest changes, the Bosman ruling.

It has to be morally right for a player out of contract to sign for whoever he wants.

But this helped balance things in big teams favours. Top players leaving for free has hurt many a small side either losing a top player for free or for a low fee once the contract is running short. or offering a large contract to hold onto the player.

Definitely a huge change that morally I have to agree with but has caused havoc for many clubs.

Imagine if he put in a clause where if he won his case he got 0.2% of any future player transfers, future generations set up forever!

cwy21 · Jun 13, 2018

tiger666 said:
I agree entirely on the offside rule. I really wish it would go back to being offside, regardless of interfering. It's far too complicated and open to interpretation now.

Can I ask why a player who is 40 yards from the ball should be flagged offside if they have no impact on play?

UncleBuck · Jun 13, 2018

dontcallme said:
Another relatively recent change was red cards being given forviolent tackles from behind.

I personally loved this one. As a defender Ilove seeing players who have learnt how to time and execute a tackle perfectly. Watching Ledly was fantastic and in my view Paolo Maldini was the best player in the 90s.

So taking out the ability for coward's tackles was a big positive for me.

I don’t get it any more, as you said tackles from behind were a joy to behold, blatantly obvious when someone had cocked up back in the day but unfortunately we are heading towards a non contact game.
God knows how that rolls down to non professional football!

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