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coys200

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Let’s be honest Chris is a lovely guy. But he knows absolutely nothing more than anyone standing outside with a camera. He’s info has continuously been wrong the whole build. He said the club shop was opening about 6 months ago. The main reason I give Kramer credibility is because: As far as i’m Aware he is the first person that you can 100% say is working on the site and info is coming straight from him. Not some Chinese whisper as in my mates brother sister blah blah. Second I’ve followed him on twitter for a while and see no reason why he would lie as seems a straight up guy. Thirdly he’s a proper spurs supporter, when Chris asks a few workman their opinion most are probably Arsenal or West Ham and on a wind up. I’ve been following the build closely on various platforms for 2 years and imo he is the most consistent reliable source I’ve seen. Of course this is just my feeling and I may be wrong. And of course Kramer himself may simply be wrong. And I’m probably more dismissive of positive rumours regarding the opening because basically over the last 6 months they’ve all been unfounded and the realistic ( negative) have all been true. I hope as much as anyone else that Kramer is wide of the mark and we will be in sooner rather than later. But unfortunately my faux optimism ran out about 3 months ago.
 

thebenjamin

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Let’s be honest Chris is a lovely guy. But he knows absolutely nothing more than anyone standing outside with a camera. He’s info has continuously been wrong the whole build. He said the club shop was opening about 6 months ago. The main reason I give Kramer credibility is because: As far as i’m Aware he is the first person that you can 100% say is working on the site and info is coming straight from him. Not some Chinese whisper as in my mates brother sister blah blah. Second I’ve followed him on twitter for a while and see no reason why he would lie as seems a straight up guy. Thirdly he’s a proper spurs supporter, when Chris asks a few workman their opinion most are probably Arsenal or West Ham and on a wind up. I’ve been following the build closely on various platforms for 2 years and imo he is the most consistent reliable source I’ve seen. Of course this is just my feeling and I may be wrong. And of course Kramer himself may simply be wrong. And I’m probably more dismissive of positive rumours regarding the opening because basically over the last 6 months they’ve all been unfounded and the realistic ( negative) have all been true.

the question isn't whether Kramer would lie -- it's why Daniel Levy would tell Mauricio Pochettino, who then tells the entire world, that it will be open before Christmas, if somebody who has a lot less knowledge of the situation, like Kramer, knows for sure it won't be?
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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the question isn't whether Kramer would lie -- it's why Daniel Levy would tell Mauricio Pochettino, who then tells the entire world, that it will be open before Christmas, if somebody who has a lot less knowledge of the situation, like Kramer, knows for sure it won't be?


 

Lighty64

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The marketing wouldn't be for event organisers, it would be to create awareness of a new arena offering the 'Tottenham experience.'
How many tourists visit the Bernabou, or climb up the O2?
We can offer tours, skywalk, museum, NFL megastore plus bars and restaurants to drag in visitors to a, potentially, iconic stadium for football, NFL, and music.
This would create revenue 7 days a week for the lifetime of the stadium as well as increasing the value of any naming rights deal.
Combined with the area/transport regeneration it would attract and keep visitors in Tottenham all day and, therefore, spending their money on us and the local area all day.
The potential for increased daily revenue may outweigh any single match day and a 'free' worldwide advert could be hard to turn down.

even once they do the square between station and stadium if that actually ever happens now, no way is there enough in the actual area to make it a day trip. the only thing that might happen whatever the event is held at the stadium is people staying there due to the facilities
 

coys200

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the question isn't whether Kramer would lie -- it's why Daniel Levy would tell Mauricio Pochettino, who then tells the entire world, that it will be open before Christmas, if somebody who has a lot less knowledge of the situation, like Kramer, knows for sure it won't be?

Levy told our whole fan base it would be ready for September 15th and proceeded to sell circa £80m worth of ST and hospitality. And seem to remember he promised 100% it would ready on time in a meeting with Pochettino sitting right next to him.Not exactly sure Levy is the most reliable source.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Levy told our whole fan base it would be ready for September 15th and proceeded to sell circa £80m worth of ST and hospitality. And seem to remember he promised 100% it would ready on time in a meeting with Pochettino sitting right next to him.Not exactly sure Levy is the most reliable source.

Don't trust the bosses, I remember Mr A Sugar promising us a league title .
 

worcestersauce

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Levy told our whole fan base it would be ready for September 15th and proceeded to sell circa £80m worth of ST and hospitality. And seem to remember he promised 100% it would ready on time in a meeting with Pochettino sitting right next to him.Not exactly sure Levy is the most reliable source.
Source?
 

coys200

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Source ? For what the video ? Was I think a trust meeting about a year ago. With levy Pochettino and Hugo on stage. The clip was everywhere will try and find it. But he also said it at NFL launch.

 

Yid-ol

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Can't fine the video, or remember seeing it. But found this about a meeting in Feb.

3. New stadium build and infrastructure
3.1 PH asked whether the stadium build was on schedule, noting that the roof was a little later than anticipated.
DL explained that the compression ring had been completed last weekend and the roof lift was scheduled to be completed in the next fortnight. Bad weather and high winds had caused the minor delay.
DL said the build was incredibly complex and it was impossible to give an exact date as to when the stadium would be completed. However, everyone is working towards being in the new stadium next season and would be extremely disappointed were this not the case.
Once the roof has been completed, there’s still a significant amount of technical work to do.

3.2 PH asked for contingency plans for any over run.
DL said that although a contingency plan was in place everyone was 100% focused on achieving the budgeted timescale. Certainly no talks had been held with Wembley over extending their residency and that there was no intention of activating any extension clause unless it was absolutely necessary.
DL stated he was confident, as far as was possible, that they would hit the build deadline.
Season ticket sales would open in the next few weeks.
DL thought it was likely they would request to play the first few matches of the 2018-19 season away from home. This had always been the case.

3.3 DL confirmed there was no possibility of opening the stadium at a reduced capacity.
SF reassured that any rumours to the contrary on social media had been clarified and corrected.

Can't see there that he promised 100% it would be ready
 

Yid-ol

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The 2 that you have posted

The first show levy is confident that it will be on time, which he probably was at the time as didn't know of the issue with the wires. So doesn't promise 100% it will be done.

The 2nd one is pointless, I could post on Twitter anything with no quotes, doesn't make it true or close to a fact.


Everything I can see or read on this is he has been confident at the time we will have it ready but never said 100% and most reports say that it can depend on any issues.
 

worcestersauce

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Can’t find video but this.

So no 100% promise so no lie, I don't believe for one minute that Levy made predictions knowing full well that they were false. September 15th was the date we'd have played our first game had an unforseen problem been highlighted at the test event, had the problem been known beforehand they wouldn't have tried for the 15th september.
The same applies now, the club can clearly see the stadium being ready be a certain time and it will be barring unforseen circumstances, Kramer is saying it won't be ready for months and months so either he knows something the club don't in which case I wish he'd tell them or the club knows what he knows and is lying about it or perhaps he doesn't know anything at all, I think I know what I believe.
 

Yid-ol

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The 2nd is from a fans forum on December 11th that the guy was attending.

You can have 2 people hear the same thing and take the answer 2 different ways. With no quotes or anything to back it up it's not really proving anything.
 

coys200

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Was actually posted here.

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Shadydan

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Levy told our whole fan base it would be ready for September 15th and proceeded to sell circa £80m worth of ST and hospitality. And seem to remember he promised 100% it would ready on time in a meeting with Pochettino sitting right next to him.Not exactly sure Levy is the most reliable source.

But wouldn't the stadium have been ready if not for the faulty electrical wiring?

I don't see the benefit of potentially upsetting the team, the sponsors and the fan base yet again by lying about the completion date, just doesn't make any sense on any level.
 

coys200

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How much more do you want. He said infront of a room full of people with Pochettino sitting right next to him it would be ready. I don’t want to say lie, but he has given out false info 3 or 4 times. If you still want to believe him up to you.

 

Yid-ol

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Jan 16, 2006
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How much more do you want. He said infront of a room full of people with Pochettino sitting right next to him it would be ready. I don’t want to say lie, but he has given out false info 3 or 4 times. If you still want to believe him up to you.


And looking at the replies to the post it is saying the name never even cane up (Bale I guess) so can't take anything there as 100% correct
 
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