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jimbo

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Are you telling me there aren’t times you’ve sat at a Spurs game and thought you’d rather be sat on a riverbank? :) I’m not saying 100% but it’s more weeding out the ones who sit there bored or playing with their phones or ‘the greatest evil of all’, eating popcorn. If they’re filling the seats of someone who is 75% committed then I know who’d I’d rather have sat there going forward.

Edit: I put that more succinctly but my boss showed up and the long post I had written had just bloody disappeared. It was rousing I tell ya! Think Mel Gibson in Braveheart, Tom Cruise in Jerry Maguire or Al Pacino in Any Given Sunday. People would have been throwing their popcorn across the room. This isn’t that post. Just a tribute to it.

There's something in that for sure, but the distracted fan syndrome isn't so much a function of being a 'casual' fan as society in general - in my opinion. It was the entitlement/moaning/lack of engagement from regular fans that pissed me off the most, and a main reason for going to occasional games rather than all games. It's a multi-faceted problem I think, and I'm just wary of creating a hierarchical structure/segregation around different types of fan and their different motivations. Football, the fan experience and the way people now engage with their teams has fundamentally changed I think.

I've taken my brother to old White Hart Lane a few times in an attempt to indoctrinate him. I doubt he'll ever be as invested as I am, but having had the match day experience a few times has made him interested in Spurs' fortunes. He's got into the rivalries and looking out for our results etc. I think that's a good thing, but the benefit to the club/you is pretty non-existent.

There is a broader question around who should come first - it's like straight women going to gay bars/clubs. They like it because it's a 'safe space' away from the attentions of straight men, but at the same time they're infringing on somebody else's place. Ultimately it would be better if there was no need for segregation at all, but that utopia doesn't exist.

TL;DR - Can't we all just get along?
 

spursfast

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Jan 23, 2017
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I got a message from my mate who worked on lighting in the stadium... he said they're finished, and most trades are out of there
he said that bar a few extras that's it, exterior/interior etc
if that is the case, that there done, do you think the club will really push ahead with potentially upsetting the season
or open it post haste
 

NickHSpurs

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Mar 14, 2004
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I got a message from my mate who worked on lighting in the stadium... he said they're finished, and most trades are out of there
he said that bar a few extras that's it, exterior/interior etc
if that is the case, that there done, do you think the club will really push ahead with potentially upsetting the season
or open it post haste

None of that stuff was ever the reason for the delay unfortunately mate, we always could have opened with the cosmetic stuff unfinished. The issue is and always has been the fire/safety systems, which nobody really has any idea what the status is.
 

Shadydan

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None of that stuff was ever the reason for the delay unfortunately mate, we always could have opened with the cosmetic stuff unfinished. The issue is and always has been the fire/safety systems, which nobody really has any idea what the status is.

Spoke to a member of staff last week when I was down there, he was pretty adamant that the fire alarm stuff is all sorted and they're just on their testing phase as of now.
 

spursfast

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None of that stuff was ever the reason for the delay unfortunately mate, we always could have opened with the cosmetic stuff unfinished. The issue is and always has been the fire/safety systems, which nobody really has any idea what the status is.
ok but taking that into account... if the stadium was ready, but with the potential risk of upsetting the season would they still push ahead
 

Styopa

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There is a broader question around who should come first - it's like straight women going to gay bars/clubs. They like it because it's a 'safe space' away from the attentions of straight men, but at the same time they're infringing on somebody else's place. Ultimately it would be better if there was no need for segregation at all, but that utopia doesn't exist.

TL;DR - Can't we all just get along?

Due to Sky, the Premier League, the Cult of Celebrity, price rises etc. going to watch a football match is becoming on par with other 'experiences' like going to see the Rolling Stones or eating at a Michelin starred restaurant. Rubbing alongside the guy who knows the Stones back catalogue inside out, will be plenty more who barely know the band's biggest hits. For every aficionado at e.g. Simon Rogan's new restaurant will be someone who knows absolutely nothing about his food and is just there for the day out.
 
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worcestersauce

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Jan 23, 2006
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The latest was that the testing was pretty much done and accepted but it was contractual arrangements that were causing concern now. Not sure what that means exactly but it surely can't be a reason not to open because if it is then there is no definite date possible, this month, this season next season or the season after that. I am still hopeful for next month.
 

Jimmypearce7

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Always happy to weigh in on this. 50 seasons now and i have only left early once. First i don't understand it- I was at Fulham and Watford and Newcastle etc and late goals are the best. Second, it isnt supporting the team- particularly if we are one down or something, they need a wall of noise (which they get at away games) not people streaming out. Finally for why? What is so desperate at home that it wont wait for 30 or 60 mins.

For the new stadium i would only open one exit in the most inconvenient position until the game finished to discourage leaving early.
 

Hoopspur

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For the record I have absolutely no problem with tourist fans coming to see my team play, I suspect not many actual fans will miss out on tickets because of it so come one come all.
At least those people have chosen to come and see Spurs play and paid their money to do so, the ones I have a problem with are the corporate invitees, the complimentary day outers who know bugger all about football and even less about our team.
Why do you have a problem with that? Enhanced price paid via those that have invited them, and for the most housed in a part of the stadium not used by you or I. Unless we are talking about being denied access to these areas. And this coming from a shelf ST holder, but now South.
 

Hoopspur

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Due to Sky, the Premier League, the Cult of Celebrity, price rises etc. going to watch a football match is becoming on par with other 'experiences' like going to see the Rolling Stones or eating at a Michelin starred restaurant. Rubbing alongside the guy who knows the Stones back catalogue inside out, will be plenty more who barely know the band's biggest hits. For every aficionado at e.g. Simon Rogan's new restaurant will be someone who knows absolutely nothing about his food and is just there for the day out.
Rogan who - Josh?

*For the record I enjoy and appreciate good food, but don’t proclaim to be an expert.
 

worcestersauce

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Jan 23, 2006
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Why do you have a problem with that? Enhanced price paid via those that have invited them, and for the most housed in a part of the stadium not used by you or I. Unless we are talking about being denied access to these areas. And this coming from a shelf ST holder, but now South.
It was in the context of tourist or casual fans, visitors and the like, my point was that I have no problem with them because they chose to come, they paid their money and are there to watch the Spurs play. I would just find it more palatable if people who actually wanted to watch Spurs play were there. Not that I lose any sleep over it.
 

Goldman

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Beat what rush? Where are people rushing off to? I kinda get the last train argument for a night game but most of the time people sacrifice 15-20 minutes of a 90 minute game so they can spend an hour doing something presumably more important. It’s matchday. Allow time for a match and it’s associated travel time. Otherwise why are you bothering at all? Especially with our perchant for the late goal.

I mean some people want to leave earlier as with less people around it’s easier to get to out before everyone leaves at FT. I don’t do it personally, but it doesn’t bother me if people want an easier/quicker journey home.
 
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