Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

fortworthspur said:

I didnt think it was that bad of a blunder. If Toby had cleared the ball off the line nobody would be talking about Hugo botching anything.

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ostrov said:

Toby had no chance to react when Hugo bounced the ball against his legs.

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Hugo had no chance when the media decides to gang up against him. This is not helped by people who are easily influenced by what they read instead of what they see.

Hugo also had no chance when his outfield easily allow the ball to be crossed into the box.

He had no chance ..no sir, even with fact sheets and stats showing hes the best keeper in the league, he had no chance. Mob mentality wins.

Not a chance he does not start against Palace and that is part of the problem. When a player feels he is untouchable its only normal for a degree of complacency to kick in and inconsistency creeps into all aspects of their game. The debate about Hugo is not a new one on here and that tells the whole story....he is a good goalkeeper not a great one and the inconsistency of his game permeates through the team at times.

Have never been a fan of a keeper as Captain and truly believe it should be Kane. However one of Poch's biggest strengths is also his weakness as he is very very loyal and will be loathe to make this type of big call to replace Hugo.

AnotherSpursFan said:

Hugo had no chance when the media decides to gang up against him. This is not helped by people who are easily influenced by what they read instead of what they see.

Hugo also had no chance when his outfield easily allow the ball to be crossed into the box.

He had no chance ..no sir, even with fact sheets and stats showing hes the best keeper in the league, he had no chance. Mob mentality wins.

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Are you defending Hugo here? On what grounds? Because stats says he saves the most shots? Sorry but I watch the games and he is an absolute calamity. Can't kick, shits himself at all times, pulls off saves you'd expect a goalkeeper to make its been a long time that Hugo has been living on his reputation.

I don't care about stats that says he saves the most and all of that twaddle. I see for my eyes he isn't the same goalkeeper and I see a good save from an average save and trust the judgement of my eyes rather than some stat rolled out by a robot.

Our goal today came because of Kane being proactive with a free kick. Will he get an assist for that goal no? Did he make it? As much as anyone else did. Stats don't tell you what the eyes can't if you watch how things unfold.

Players in our squad that have to improve or they won't have a future with us are Lloris, Trippier, Aurier, Sanchez, Foyth, Rose, Wanyama, Lamela & Lucas. Lucas played well today, I expect that level from him always. Hugo isn't the same player we used to have, he let's the team down too often and if it was any other profession he'd be getting a ticking off because of it. Pochettino simply has to, by hook or by crook get us top 4 now and if that means passing off Hugo and dropping him that's what he has to do.

Poch has focused so much of his attention on a happy camp. This isn't playschool it's the Premier League. Do your job properly or pack your bags and play in Ligue 1 for your remaining days as a professional. That was a crucial point today and Hugo let us down. He deserves to get slated, because of the one mistake but the countless mistakes and wobbles I've seen for near on 3 years now. He's not being the professional he should be so he's under the radar and rightly so. This isn't a tin pot club it's Tottenham Hotspur. If we want to be a big club we put the club first, not the feelings of the players or the camaraderie in the dressing room when the lads play uno.

Enough is enough, realistically we should be looking at a Spurs team who should have lost 5 games in a row if it wasn't for Arsenal missing in the last minute. A shambles, the childish way we've behaved over the past 6 weeks needs to stop, it's appalling and the players should feel ashamed of how they're letting the team that pay their wages down at the moment.

Hugo is hanging by a thread as so many others should be at present as well

If we were to look for a new number 1, would people want Gazza to be given a shot, or bring someone else in?

My knowledge of GKs outside of Spurs is poor, who could we try and get?

Think Lloris’ greatest strength is his reactive shot stopping. He’s incredible in that regard.

His skill level drops in the following situations:

One on ones against an attacker bearing down on goal, his approach and angles seem to be off; with aerial crosses, which includes scenarios like today where that flighted ball should have been claimed before it even got to Salah’s head; and with his distribution, which has always been an issue and cost us for Liverpool’s first.

Hugo’s saved us plenty of times in the past. Sublime performance against Dortmund a few weeks back. Gazza isn’t the reactive shot stopper that Lloris is, but he has other advantages over Hugo.

Think we have way too much in front of us for the rest of this season to start swapping and experimenting with keeper changes. It’ll just destabilize the team, but next season, I think Gazza needs a good, early run of PL games. I think he’s deserved it with several solid performances in cup games.

Clark28 said:

If we were to look for a new number 1, would people want Gazza to be given a shot, or bring someone else in?

My knowledge of GKs outside of Spurs is poor, who could we try and get?

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Gazzaniga isn't good enough to be number one. I'd go for Cillesen at Barcelona.

ostrov said:

Toby had no chance to react when Hugo bounced the ball against his legs.

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fortworthspur said:

yeah I didnt mean to imply he should've done better, just that there was some misfortune involved. it wasnt as diabolical as some are making out.

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There were two errors that Hugo made for the second goal. One, not claiming a flighted ball sailing into his space, and two, failing to catch a soft header, resulting in a handling error leading to a deflection off his own defender, who had no time to react, and that horrible sight of the ball rolling over the line. I was thinking "diabolical" when I saw it.

ohtottenham! said:

There were two errors that Hugo made for the second goal. One, not claiming a flighted ball sailing into his space, and two, failing to catch a soft header, resulting in a handling error leading to a deflection off his own defender, who had no time to react, and that horrible sight of the ball rolling over the line. I was thinking "diabolical" when I saw it.

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He also made an error for their first with one of his trademark panic kicks going straight up in the air and straight to a well advanced Liverpool team when we needed composure.

Can anyone remember his positioning against Man City at Wembley as well when they scored? It was a tap in but he was positioned the wrong side of the post FFS! Flog him to a mid table French team and be done with him now. We've given him chance after chance and still he looks like a 15 year old playing in a mans game

ohtottenham! said:

There were two errors that Hugo made for the second goal. One, not claiming a flighted ball sailing into his space, and two, failing to catch a soft header, resulting in a handling error leading to a deflection off his own defender, who had no time to react, and that horrible sight of the ball rolling over the line. I was thinking "diabolical" when I saw it.

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I didnt see the end of the game so I had to go watch it on youtube after reading the stuff here. I was expecting far worse. His gaffe in the WC final, for example. like I said, if that ball doesnt careen off Toby and gets cleared it would be forgotten about already.

fortworthspur said:

I didnt see the end of the game so I had to go watch it on youtube after reading the stuff here. I was expecting far worse. His gaffe in the WC final, for example. like I said, if that ball doesnt careen off Toby and gets cleared it would be forgotten about already.

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If his mistake hadn't gone in off of Toby it would still be a red flag. How many mistakes, reckless mistakes has he made in the last 3-5 years for club and country? 14-15 perhaps? Maybe more if you include red cards. Not to mention the amount of opportunities his diabolical passing and kicking gives teams. Hugo is a liability, has been for a while now.

It was a disasterous mistake for a point that would have been so crucial not just numerically but mentally for the team. He punches at balls he could easily catch now, he can't kick properly and now he's struggling to save. You need a goalkeeper to instil confidence and he does not do so anymore.

Sorry Hugo you served us well but it's one calamity too many now and in all honesty the wheels were in motion for me when he said he felt a little empty after the World Cup and that it affected his game. We pay him £100k per week and he's our captain. I expect better his heads gone and hasn't been with it for a while now.

Pack him in, I've had enough of his childish goalkeeping

ToDarrenIsToDo said:

He also made an error for their first with one of his trademark panic kicks going straight up in the air and straight to a well advanced Liverpool team when we needed composure.

Can anyone remember his positioning against Man City at Wembley as well when they scored? It was a tap in but he was positioned the wrong side of the post FFS! Flog him to a mid table French team and be done with him now. We've given him chance after chance and still he looks like a 15 year old playing in a mans game

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Mate, think you're going a bit overboard. His errors were critical today, but he's also been immense for us plenty of times, and may well be in upcoming games. He's still way better than England's No. 1.

ohtottenham! said:

Mate, think you're going a bit overboard. His errors were critical today, but he's also been immense for us plenty of times, and may well be in upcoming games. He's still way better than England's No. 1.

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Mate he's been a dodgy keeper for years now. Awful kicking, no composure, flaps at balls, can't deal with crosses.

He pulls off a save or two yes but I see a wobble in him every game I watch. Mistakes all over the shop, albeit not glaring ones. Near post shots, headcase rushing out, erratic handling and his kicking is the worst I've seen a from a top flight footballer. He floats the ball or swipes at it meaning that even if we do win the ball, the oppositionnare quikcly onto us.

I promise you mate, he puts us under the cosh even when he's not fumbling or mumbling his way through games. Regardless of what he does from now until the end of the season I've seen enough and the same applies to Trippier, Aurier & Rose. Not good enough for top 4 which ultimately will lead to Tottenham Hotspur no longer being in the top 4. Move them on before it starts to hurt us if it isn't already

ToDarrenIsToDo said:

Mate he's been a dodgy keeper for years now. Awful kicking, no composure, flaps at balls, can't deal with crosses.

He pulls off a save or two yes but I see a wobble in him every game I watch. Mistakes all over the shop, albeit not glaring ones. Near post shots, headcase rushing out, erratic handling and his kicking is the worst I've seen a from a top flight footballer. He floats the ball or swipes at it meaning that even if we do win the ball, the oppositionnare quikcly onto us.

I promise you mate, he puts us under the cosh even when he's not fumbling or mumbling his way through games. Regardless of what he does from now until the end of the season I've seen enough and the same applies to Trippier, Aurier & Rose. Not good enough for top 4 which ultimately will lead to Tottenham Hotspur no longer being in the top 4. Move them on before it starts to hurt us if it isn't already

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he was a finalist for FIFA keeper of the year last year. he's not been at his best this year but you are overstating your case.

ohtottenham! said:

Mate, think you're going a bit overboard. His errors were critical today, but he's also been immense for us plenty of times, and may well be in upcoming games. He's still way better than England's No. 1.

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https://www.90min.com/posts/6188337...g-7-of-hugo-lloris-biggest-goalkeeping-gaffes

The guy even has his own article ranking his gaffs. This isn't even the worst party of his game, his kicking is

fortworthspur said:

he was a finalist for FIFA keeper of the year last year. he's not been at his best this year but you are overstating your case.

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He fluffed his gimme of the golden glove as well when his team were 4-1 up.

He was a shoe in and managed to screw it up royally in front of the world. He's a nervous wreck, he simply doesn't have the winners mentality we need. The only reason he won the World Cup is because of the lack of good French goalkeepers. He's cost Spurs too many times, gifting Coutinho a goal for Barca at Wembley this season, being the wrong side of the post when Mahrez tapped in, punching instead of holding the ball etc.

He's 2nd only to Pickford, another fraud in most errors leading to goals since 2017. He's made more mistakes than goalkeepers playing for the likes of Burnley, Brighton, Crystal Palace for heavens sake. Yes he is a hugely talented goalkeeper but he's cost us one too many times now. A team content with those figures can expect the team to go backwards if they aren't proactive in sorting it, which is what we are seeing all over the shop at the moment

He's a poor kicker of the ball, everyone can see that. So it's unbelievable why we continue to pass back to him as a major part of our game? It works against us and it's Poch's responsibility to change, isn't it? We do it time and time again way too much. Should change this pattern.

I have been saying it for a while he needs to be dropped and fight his way back he has lost us too many points this season compared to other top keepers. If Poch is not looking at this situation it is negligence.

I get the feeling Poch let's his friendship with Hugo cloud his decision making.
We will never reach the very top with that going on,
Your better off having a keeper who gives you 7 out of 10 every week rather than 9 one week then 4 the next consistanly.
If you accept that, you must accept the consequences of what results that will bring.

Shadydan said:

You're missing my point

It's about how quick people change their opinions on a game to game basis depending on how the player has played...

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I think you will find I’ve had this opinion on Lloris for at least 18 months now. You can go back and check this thread if you really want

marcolombardSA said:

At fault for both goals. Won’t win anything with him.

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what a fucking stupid comment, he was at fault for neither of the goals.