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tottenmal

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I don't know if it has been posted already. But I thought people would find the project going on at Tottenham Hale interesting.
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https://www.talktottenhamhale.co.uk
 

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arnoldlayne

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Wish they could do similar in the northeast of England. All we get is new student flats and university buildings. Truly two different nations
 

hellava_tough

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Interesting that this puts the cost of the stadium itself at less than £500m.

And it's also interesting that those housing projects will/could be ongoing for a number of years, meaning that the club could be recouping costs a decade from now.
 

davidmatzdorf

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Saw this on twitter (@Charlesrich82 - not sure if active on here?) and thought might be of interest

https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/ins...at-tottenham-hotspurs-housing-ambitions-60872
Use this link it avoids having to register. Should be first search result.
Thanks to @hellava_tough for drawing my attention to this thread. A read through the Inside Housing article will confirm a lot of the things I've been wallpapering the New Stadium thread with for years!

It has been Haringey Council's policy for many years that affordable housing in the eastern half of Haringey (which includes Tottenham) should be 70% intermediate (shared ownership) and only 30% social rented. It's the reverse in the western, more prosperous half of the borough. That was their initial response to the problem of large effective-ghettos of poverty-afflicted social housing in the eastern half.

The problem with the HDV and other "regeneration" [gentrification] projects has been that they involve demolishing large areas of existing, obsolete council housing for new development, which immediately opens to negotiation what proportion of private/rented/shared ownership housing will feature in the new development. And the private development partners generally take councils to the cleaners in these matters. Activists and local residents have not failed to notice this, hence the campaigns against the HDV and its eventual failure.

What THFC is doing, by comparison, is developing new housing on former industrial sites, which avoids that contentious issue. But there is still a negotiation about how much and what kind of affordable housing should be provided. The club shouldn't be assuming that they can just pack the area with 100% private developments. It doesn't work that way.

P.S. I didn't realise there was rented housing at the Cannon site. I'd been told it was all shared ownership. But it's not social rented (40%-60% of market rents), it's "affordable rented" (80% of market rents) - thus not all that affordable.
 

arnoldlayne

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Really? Actually a lot of that development is student flats.
There's a real problem with mid-range housing in the northeast - landlords have bought up loads of property which used to be owner-occupier - although I realise the same could be said anywhere! But when I look at regeneration and development in London and then look at Newcastle it is worlds apart (I think) - all small scale here - office blocks (most empty still!), university-related, and a few new houses.
 

DogsOfWar

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The enquiry has only just ended - the link is dated today. The Inspector will review the evidence, come to a decision, write a formal report and then we'll know. It could take some weeks.

I had no idea we were directly involved in the development in that area.

Do you have any idea on the timeline for the 'Station Approach' and Northumberland Park developments?

I believe they were originally going to be complete by 2025. Also, were these local council type partnerships with developers or were we also involved?
 

Teemu

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Shagged a girl in one of the new builds near Tottenham Hale last summer. No idea if it had anything to do with the new stadium but she even offered to make me breakfast in the morning. Nice girl.
 

davidmatzdorf

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I had no idea we were directly involved in the development in that area.

Do you have any idea on the timeline for the 'Station Approach' and Northumberland Park developments?

I believe they were originally going to be complete by 2025. Also, were these local council type partnerships with developers or were we also involved?
I don't know, but if I find anything out, it will go here.

I was working on a project in the High Rd for a few years, but I've done my bit now, so I'm not dealing with Haringey planners on a routine basis anymore.
 

Wine Gum

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I don't know, but if I find anything out, it will go here.

I was working on a project in the High Rd for a few years, but I've done my bit now, so I'm not dealing with Haringey planners on a routine basis anymore.

A couple of further case documents have been added to the planning portal http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=326265

If the club win the appeal the planning application for the B&M site will be next http://867-879highroad.co.uk/
 
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