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SpursSince1980

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Well, Kane couldn’t have picked a worst time to apply pressure demonstrating the club matches his ambition.

First and foremost, we have little to no money. So, bringing in ambitious reinforcements is a non starter.
Secondly, we will have a new manager and therefore a transitional period.
Third, due to the general economic situation for most teams, his options for a huge move are limited. Very limited.
Lastly, Spurs compete in a league with two of the wealthiest clubs in the world. One of which, will probably be even better next year, as they are one of very few teams who have money to buy new players. So, even making changes to our squad doesn’t guarantee anything, with Man City, who will continue to win at least one to three trophies per season for the foreseeable future.
 
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-Afri-Coy-

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I love how they say: "But the rumours have been circulating." Like that adds any credibility to their article.

BBC, Mate, its you and the other media outlets making up the rumours and this does not make it fact or even news worthy. You're literally all making this up as you go along. :ROFLMAO:
 

sparx100

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kanes been in more finals and league chases. Not everyone can win. Vardy was also anonymous in the final. But luck was with him that day.
You don't look back on your career and think about your runners-up medals or how you ran close in the league. Luck wasn't with Vardy, the whole team played well. The fact was that Chelsea deployed a tactic to nullify the pace of Vardy which worked, but someone else stepped up in Tielemans who funnily enough we could have had but again we didn't pull the trigger.
Don't use luck as an excuse. The times we have been in the hunt for success we just have not turned up. That's not luck, that's a mentality and a coaching issue.
 

spursfan77

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It’s open season on us on the back pages of all the papers today. Poor Harry Kane being made to honour his contract by that mean old Daniel Levy. The Times saying we are facing an exodus of our players and that he wants to play for guardiola at Man City.

I don’t understand why the papers always want the best players at the best clubs. It has always been like that. Now they are desperate for Kane to join the despicable forces at Man City.

This has got a long way to run too.
 

Stamford

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If Kane leaves and it's a big if, I lay the blame 100% with Mourinho

Last year Mourinho failed to maintain top 4 but we suffered badly with injuries (including Kane's) so he could be excused blame. However this season with a much improved squad Mourinho has achieved less with the team than the sum of the parts. Precisely the reverse of what a good manager should produce. The fact we have failed to achieve top 4 by such a small margin makes our failure even more frustrating. I believe Kane put his faith in Mourinho this season given his track record and has been let down by poor tactics and team selection as the season fell away steeply.

I can understand Kane's frustration but the cause was avoidable, should not have happened and had we been managed by any of the current top 5 managers would not have happened

absolute nonsense. The squad isn't good enough to win anything. Ferguson, Shankly, Bill Nic or Clough in their primes wouldn't get these bed wetters to win something they're just a pathetic bunch really - PEH said as much yesterday. Stop blaming managers and look at the one constant over the the last six/seven managers. Jose isn't the problem stop blaming him for everything.
 

shelfboy68

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Well, Kane couldn’t have picked a worst time to apply pressure demonstrating the club matches his ambition.

First and foremost, we have little to no money. So, bringing in ambitious reinforcements is a non starter.
Secondly, we will have a new manager and therefore a transitional period.
Third, due to the general economic situation for most teams, his options for a huge move are limited. Very limited.
Lastly, Spurs compete in a league with two of the wealthiest clubs in the world. One of which, will probably be even better next year, as they are one of very few teams who have money to buy new players. So, even making changes to our squad doesn’t guarantee anything, with Man City, who will continue to win at least one to three trophies per season for the foreseeable future.
1- the little to no money is a constant
2- how often is a transitional season going to keep being used one of the most over used comments on here.
3- pandemic meh
4- Leicester also compete in that league and has just beaten one of those teams to win a trophy plus won a league in living memory.
 

Dougal

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If Kane leaves and it's a big if, I lay the blame 100% with Mourinho

Last year Mourinho failed to maintain top 4 but we suffered badly with injuries (including Kane's) so he could be excused blame. However this season with a much improved squad Mourinho has achieved less with the team than the sum of the parts. Precisely the reverse of what a good manager should produce. The fact we have failed to achieve top 4 by such a small margin makes our failure even more frustrating. I believe Kane put his faith in Mourinho this season given his track record and has been let down by poor tactics and team selection as the season fell away steeply.

I can understand Kane's frustration but the cause was avoidable, should not have happened and had we been managed by any of the current top 5 managers would not have happened
Mourinho was the wrong person to take control with the state Spurs were in. The blame lies with Levy for putting his crusade of hiring Mourinho ahead of what the club actually needed at that time.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Mourinho was the wrong person to take control with the state Spurs were in. The blame lies with Levy for putting his crusade of hiring Mourinho ahead of what the club actually needed at that time.

I'm pretty sure it was widely accepted at the time that he was the best possible candidate we had mid-season. Not that it changes how things ended up.
 

Dougal

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I'm pretty sure it was widely accepted at the time that he was the best possible candidate we had mid-season. Not that it changes how things ended up.
Things can be widely accepted* without them being right.

*plenty of people had strong reservations
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Things can be widely accepted* without them being right.

*plenty of people had strong reservations

Fair enough, but we still didn't have anyone "better" to turn too at the time so things fell into place the way they did for a reason and not just a crusade by Levy. He wasn't the only manager we sounded out either.
 

Dov67

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Someone on FB made a good point - it took even a world class manager like Jurgen Klopp 4 years to win Liverpool anything and he was backed by his club. So even if we had managed to get Naaglesman or if we get Conte, can Kane put his faith in yet a another project, which may or may not be deliver??

I didnt blame Bale when he left, and said at the time a player that good should be winning champions leagues (which he did, 4 times) rather than struggling each year just to qualify

same applies to Kane, who could be playing in the f****g Europa Conference League next year against the likes of Plovdiv (or whatever the hell theyre called)

It will break our hearts to see him go especially to a prem rival but this now has a certain air of inevitability about it.

THFC circa 2017/18 must be by far the best team of the premier league era to not have won it. I’m still haunted by the David Pleat team of 87 not wining anything. This will be a regret of ours for a generation.

This club.......it kills me !
 

Dougal

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Fair enough, but we still didn't have anyone "better" to turn too at the time so things fell into place the way they did for a reason and not just a crusade by Levy. He wasn't the only manager we sounded out either.
Well, that’s all for another thread. Fact is, is Levy had made a more appropriate manager in place, and backed him, we’d may possibly have kept Kane happier. Though there are still no guarantees.
 

slartibartfast

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Well, that’s all for another thread. Fact is, is Levy had made a more appropriate manager in place, and backed him, we’d may possibly have kept Kane happier. Though there are still no guarantees.
Was a dick move bringing in Jose, not even just in hindsight. Kane was never going to enjoy spending more time in his own box than the oppositions. The media love Jose but most fans know his football is awful. A Chelsea fan laughed at me when we appointed him and said you might get a trophy but your football is gonna be gash.
 

Stamford

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Was a dick move bringing in Jose, not even just in hindsight. Kane was never going to enjoy spending more time in his own box than the oppositions. The media love Jose but most fans know his football is awful. A Chelsea fan laughed at me when we appointed him and said you might get a trophy but your football is gonna be gash.

Kane put up amazing numbers under Jose. I actually think he went up a level
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Well, that’s all for another thread. Fact is, is Levy had made a more appropriate manager in place, and backed him, we’d may possibly have kept Kane happier. Though there are still no guarantees.

100%, We also don't know the full extent of Kane's unhappiness and where it stems from. But if ambition is the reason, I doubt we have enough time to change his mind. Things are not going to be rosy straight away even with the right manager and recruitment. But let's see how the cards fall over the next few weeks. It's going to be interesting to say the least.
 

punkisback

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It feels like the end of the line in many ways. Not just for Harry, but for the model we've been attempting to build for the last 7-8 years.

If H goes this summer, we need to set the rest of the club on fire too and have that 'painful rebuild'.
Agree. Arguably the Poch team was the first cycle and that is gone. You either build on top of that or as we did convince the world that the backups were better than the players who had left. But knowing Spurs...
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Kane put up amazing numbers under Jose. I actually think he went up a level

There will be arguments that its Kane and he has naturally progressed another level and not because of Mourinho even those Jose completely changed his role in the team to allow him to flourish the way he did.

JM did a lot of things wrong but the way he handled Kane wasn't one of them.
 
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