Harry Kane

H-SF · Jul 31, 2021

davidmatzdorf said:
What leverage does Kane have to bully Tottenham,? Absolutely none. The length of his contract means that his transfer value next summer will be as high as it is right now.

The only thing that could reduce it, other than a severe injury, is for him to perform badly next season. It's not in his personality to do that. He's too driven.

If THFC gets offered enough money to make the deal look attractive, they'll talk and probably sell. But Kane himself has virtually no power because of his contract.

I don't agree with this. Next year he will have only 2 years left on his deal and hence the leverage we have will naturally have decreased. Once a player gets to 2 years left on his deal, you tend to either sell them or offer them a new contract. If his price tag is 150-200m this summer, I doubt its above 130m next summer.

SpartanSpur · Jul 31, 2021

barry said:
Who would take 100-120 mil plus Bernardo Silva?

IF Kane were to leave then I'd take Bernardo in an instant. I'd rather keep Kane though, so wouldn't want to open negotiations.

Worst case scenario is Arsenal buying Bernardo giving City what they need to buy Kane.

DONOS10 · Jul 31, 2021

davidmatzdorf said:
You're getting a long way ahead of yourself.

You have no idea how Kane will treat the forthcoming negotiation. He may turn it into the tantrum of the ages and carry on in public, but that would go against his behaviour since he became a professional.

Or he could negotiate hard and silently behind closed doors and twist the arms of the club.

Or he could state his desires and, when told that he won't have them realised this summer, knuckle down and play much as Modric played in the season before he left.

You don't know. Neither do I. That makes your certainty look rather foolish.

My "certainty" was merely a premonition. Who knows how Kane will conduct himself personally, but it's clear the professionalism of those around him isn't at a high standard.

Even if he knuckles down and has his best even season with us, it's naiive to think some of our fans won't have burnt bridges by how his desire to leave has been portrayed in the media. It's quite predictable that our star man has been tarnished by it.

SpartanSpur · Jul 31, 2021

davidmatzdorf said:
What leverage does Kane have to bully Tottenham,? Absolutely none. The length of his contract means that his transfer value next summer will be as high as it is right now.

The only thing that could reduce it, other than a severe injury, is for him to perform badly next season. It's not in his personality to do that. He's too driven.

If THFC gets offered enough money to make the deal look attractive, they'll talk and probably sell. But Kane himself has virtually no power because of his contract.

What else could he hope to achieve by 'pleading with us to leave'?

If City were willing to meet our fee that wouldn't be necessary.

I'd say it goes without saying this is him asking us to accept a lower offer.

Savage7 · Jul 31, 2021

H-SF said:
The frustrating thing is if we keep him and have a bad season we will hear the Kane story all year long and after every defeat. Part of me does think that its a good time to sell him. Its the most we'll ever get for him and we are the beginning of a new project. Equally I understand why we are forcing him to give Nuno one season.

it is a good time to sell as I think Kane leaving is only a matter of when.
£150 mil will allow us to strengthen the squad when market value is low.
next year we will get less money and if stadiums stay at full capacity all season, market value should rise again next year meaning the £150 mil (I can’t see this value increasing as Kane’s age does and contract length reduces) will buy us less.

Ings and Vlahovic must be brought in!

Teddy Klinsmann · Jul 31, 2021

barry said:
Who would take 100-120 mil plus Bernardo Silva?

No, but I’d entertain Laporte and 130+.

13VanDerBale13 · Jul 31, 2021

I’d sell him & re invest, bloke clearly doesn’t wanna be here anymore & deep down we all know his heart is truly not in it anymore & those kind of players aren’t worth holding.

barry · Jul 31, 2021

SpartanSpur said:
IF Kane were to leave then I'd take Bernardo in an instant. I'd rather keep Kane though, so wouldn't want to open negotiations.

Worst case scenario is Arsenal buying Bernardo giving City what they need to buy Kane.

I was thinking about it the other day when he was put up for sale for 60 mil. Class player hasn't hit the heights at city, but I think that could be a case of too many cooks and playing time. I think if we built a team around him he could be immense.
My only concern is do we really need him with the players we have.

Aphex · Jul 31, 2021

SpartanSpur said:
What else could he hope to achieve by 'pleading with us to leave'?

If City were willing to meet our fee that wouldn't be necessary.

I'd say it goes without saying this is him asking us to accept a lower offer.

What Kane needs to understand is, there is a price for everyone, and his isn't 100 million. That's the same as Grealish. Grealish isn't fit to lace Kane's boots. Look at the difference in terms of output they have.

If City were offering us 150 million I'd think we would start to listen and maybe finally agree at around 170 - 200, and I would be worried he would go. But City are low balling us for the England captain who was just player of the season basically.

On a seperate note, how fucking mental is it that Kane wants to join City. The man city that I know are such a nothing club, it's just so sad to see players like Kane want to flock there. Growing up it would have been who the fuck are Man City? Sad state of affairs all round. I could accept Bale joining Madrid, but this is just pish.

SpartanSpur · Jul 31, 2021

Savage7 said:
it is a good time to sell as I think Kane leaving is only a matter of when.
£150 mil will allow us to strengthen the squad when market value is low.
next year we will get less money and if stadiums stay at full capacity all season, market value should rise again next year meaning the £150 mil (I can’t see this value increasing as Kane’s age does and contract length reduces) will buy us less.

Ings and Vlahovic must be brought in!

It's too late for this to happen now and us to fully maximise selling him IMHO.

The club is probably better off keeping him for one season in the hope he gets us back into the CL or at least EL. That income alone will be worth the diminution in any fee for Kane and would likely make us more attractive for replacements.

Vlahovic is a big prospect but that is a massive downgrade on Kane.

CockOnBall · Jul 31, 2021

davidmatzdorf said:
What leverage does Kane have to bully Tottenham,? Absolutely none. The length of his contract means that his transfer value next summer will be as high as it is right now.

The only thing that could reduce it, other than a severe injury, is for him to perform badly next season. It's not in his personality to do that. He's too driven.

If THFC gets offered enough money to make the deal look attractive, they'll talk and probably sell. But Kane himself has virtually no power because of his contract.

There has been reports that he actually asked to leave last summer but Levy convinced him to give it another year. Not that gives much leverage technically but it’s plausible that discussion took place

hughy · Jul 31, 2021

13VanDerBale13 said:
I’d sell him & re invest, bloke clearly doesn’t wanna be here anymore & deep down we all know his heart is truly not in it anymore & those kind of players aren’t worth holding.

I'm of the same opinion. Watching him next season just isn't going to be the same as before.

I'd rather take £200m and start the rebuild now than wait a season and only get two-thirds of that.

SpartanSpur · Jul 31, 2021

Aphex said:
What Kane needs to understand is, there is a price for everyone, and his isn't 100 million. That's the same as Grealish. Grealish isn't fit to lace Kane's boots. Look at the difference in terms of output they have.

If City were offering us 150 million I'd think we would start to listen, and I would be worried he would go. But City are low balling us for the England captain who was just player of the season basically.

On a seperate note, how fucking mental is it that Kane wants to join City. The man city that I know are such a nothing club, it's just so sad to see players like Kane want to flock there. Growing up it would have been who the fuck are Man City? Sad state of affairs all round. I could accept Bale joining Madrid, but this is just pish.

Totally agree on the fee.

I think part of it is Guardiola, the rest is that he's fed up with being a bridesmaid (albeit he's played his part there). Had he won a PL or CL here I don't think he'd be pushing to join them. Like you say everyone knows they are a small club behind the oil facade.

Stoof · Jul 31, 2021

H-SF said:
I don't agree with this. Next year he will have only 2 years left on his deal and hence the leverage we have will naturally have decreased. Once a player gets to 2 years left on his deal, you tend to either sell them or offer them a new contract. If his price tag is 150-200m this summer, I doubt its above 130m next summer.

Inclined to side with @davidmatzdorf on this

barry · Jul 31, 2021

Teddy Klinsmann said:
No, but I’d entertain Laporte and 130+.

That's probably a better shout. I really like Silva, and really believe there's a player there who could be levels above what we've seen, if given total responsibility as the creative fulcrum of a team, but Laporte plays in a position that severely needs strengthening

LukaKranjcar · Jul 31, 2021

Thought better of Harry. If he's that desperate to leave then get rid, providing the money is right of course. I half knew this day would come, but thought he'd want to aim higher than Man City. Just becomes another player to pass through THFC.

barry · Jul 31, 2021

LukaKranjcar said:
Thought better of Harry. If he's that desperate to leave then get rid, providing the money is right of course. I half knew this day would come, but thought he'd want to aim higher than Man City. Just becomes another player to pass through THFC.

When it comes to guaranteed trophies in the next 5 years, who's higher than Man City?

barry · Jul 31, 2021

I got nothing against Kane, and I understand his motivations, but I would love it if he left, and we won the league, while City won nada.

SpursSince1980 · Jul 31, 2021

barry said:
When it comes to guaranteed trophies in the next 5 years, who's higher than Man City?

Man City = cheat code for trophies.

Tucker · Jul 31, 2021

barry said:
When it comes to guaranteed trophies in the next 5 years, who's higher than Man City?

Bayern.

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