Harry Kane

bat-chain said:

Not turned on him at all.

Just sad he doesn’t quite feel for Spurs what we thought, I have to say when Pochettino was here he talked of being a Totti style one club legend.

A year of Mourinho and he wants oil doped trophies at any cost, he expresses more love for Jose these days than Tottenham.

we really did let the devil in.

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I do wonder what Jose had been saying to him.

We know he was telling him he'd make him explode. Who's to say he wasn't telling him he deserves to be playing for Madrid when he knew he was getting fired. Getting in his head.

By the way, Harry was the one who wanted Jose, and wanted him to stay, so he's partly to blame for this demise.

Every time I read again that he wants away I'm coming more around to the idea that if they did stump up I wouldn't be as gutted as any time in the past. Take the wheelbarrow of cash to Italy, grab Vlahovic and a more experienced head with a bit of shithouse about him like Belotti that might settle a bit quicker, and have at the season and reevaluate up front properly next summer. The rest of the cash would open a few late doors for quality additions elsewhere in the squad. I don't think I'd be too disappointed with something like that. Which is sad in its own way.

DONOS10 said:

My "certainty" was merely a premonition. Who knows how Kane will conduct himself personally, but it's clear the professionalism of those around him isn't at a high standard.

Even if he knuckles down and has his best even season with us, it's naiive to think some of our fans won't have burnt bridges by how his desire to leave has been portrayed in the media. It's quite predictable that our star man has been tarnished by it.

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Well then don't write in absolute terms. Use qualifiers. I "think" or "reckon" or "suspect" or "expect" such-and-such "might" happen.

Premonitions are just superstition.

sausage said:

That and the difference, due to tax etc. won't be that much. and extra £200k gross is 'only' £100k net.

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Yeah … only. Only an extra £5.2M per year after tax.

rossdapep said:

I do wonder what Jose had been saying to him.

We know he was telling him he'd make him explode. Who's to say he wasn't telling him he deserves to be playing for Madrid when he knew he was getting fired. Getting in his head.

By the way, Harry was the one who wanted Jose, and wanted him to stay, so he's partly to blame for this demise.

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Pointless blaming Jose. I think Harry gave us the extra year because Jose came in. Apparently he wanted out before Jose arrived. He thought he could deliver us trophies but didn’t so now he’s done with us.

olliec said:

It’s true can’t see Villa fans kicking up such a stink as Jack hasn’t disrespected the club at all by going behind their back. It seems the transfer is all going through very professional and jack will probably remain a legend with Villa fans still.

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My guess is that Jack and his people are a lot more confident of that particular deal going through.

If the Kane deal was agreed Charlie wouldn't be running to the papers.

Jack does seem to have genuine love and respect for Villa though so not trying to downplay that either.

spids said:

Yeah … only. Only an extra £5.2M per year after tax.

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When you're already raking in at least £20m or so including all endorsements and so on, there's a point where it's just greed.

It's not like, as was compared, going from £30k a year to £20m a year. The difference to Kane will be the equivalent of an extra £10k to the guy on the street.

Let's just do a 3 year loan. £60m fee. Can go and win a few titles, stops him playing against us, then he can come back in his twilight, bang a few more goals in and get that record.

No? Alright then ?

I do really wonder how people can think Kane has done nothing wrong. The interview with Neville, the leak to Sky, the loose lips at a wedding, stories of not being ready for the first game, leaks to other papers etc.

One thing could be exscused but clearly he is trying to force the issue. I have no problem him wanting to leave but he has not handled this proffesionally in the slightest. As others have said, as long as it is the figure quoted let him go. No matter how good or big Kane is, we were here long before him and will be here long after him.

sausage said:

When you're already raking in at least £20m or so including all endorsements and so on, there's a point where it's just greed.

It's not like, as was compared, going from £30k a year to £20m a year. The difference to Kane will be the equivalent of an extra £10k to the guy on the street.

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It’s not money he’s after it’s trophies. He wants to mimic Ronaldo and Messi. He would probably sign on 200k a week with City. He doesn’t care about club loyalty and the fans he just wants the biggest prize in football even if that means turning your back on the ones that love you to sell your soul to the devil. Shame he doesn’t have the same love and passion as Son who is pretty much near the same level as him and one year older. He just loves us the fans and club. Sonny is a true Yid!

Might just be me but if he does leave, i don't want him back in 5-6 years on some nostalgia tour trying to break the record

sausage said:

Are the board supposed to put boots on and score the goals he hasn't in any of the finals and semis he's been in?

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They oversaw the regression of the club. Firstly taking their eye off the ball on the squad at the key time as their focus was the stadium and their investment.

This pushed Poch to burnout and the Mourinho decision, whilst viable at the time, only seemed to devalue the club (because he certainly wouldn't take blame) and seemed to create a toxic atmosphere.

It's not like Kane missed a ton of chances in those games either. In fact he hardly got a touch. We were outclassed in pretty much all of them. We had a fair amount of the ball vs Liverpool but they held us at arms length really.

phieffect said:

Might just be me but if he does leave, i don't want him back in 5-6 years on some nostalgia tour trying to break the record

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Yeah - count me out for the nostalgia tour. If he forces his way out, he takes his legacy and goodwill with him, and I don't ever want to see him back.

If the ultimate sporting objective is to break back into the top four, and the club do not have the financial scope to engage in a significant net spend this summer due to recent debt and lost stadium income, there are two seldom discussed factors that weigh in favor of selling Kane this summer if City offer 150 million pounds:

#1: If Kane leaves, the club will have freed up an absolutely enormous sum of money from the wage bill from his departure, as well as the departures of Bale, Alderweireld, Mourinho, Rose and Vinicius. That's potentially 800K a week in wage bill reduction from just those aforementioned names. If you add in players who are strongly linked with moves away (Sissoko, Winks, Sanchez, Aurier), there will be well over 1 million pounds a week less on the wage bill under the above scenario. Now, the club will have presumably signed Gil, Romero, Tomiyasu and Gollini, but those aren't players who were on enormous wages. Gil, for example, according to media reports, was purportedly offered a little more than 40K a week. Tomiyasu and Gollini likely wouldn't be on wages much greater than that, and Romero, while almost undoubtedly on a higher salary, probably would be somewhere in the 80K-100K bracket based on similarly situated past signings. Even if you take into Son's reported wage increase from 140K a week to 200K a week, Nuno's wages, plus the additions of Skipp and Sessegnon, the net impact to the wage bill in the above scenario would see the club potentially have saved north of 600K a week versus last season. That provides enormous scope for the club to maneuver in the transfer market to improve the squad (admittedly, this is all hypothetical and a bit speculative given the lack of definitive reports on salaries, but very much worth gaming out).

#2: Paratici's negotiating experience and contacts are seemingly among the best in world football. With 150 million pounds to spend and enormous flexibility in regards to the wage bill, there are a lot of possibilities, especially in Italy, for rebuilding the team. For example, both Dybala and Insigne have one year left on their contracts. Would 250K a week entice them to consider a move to Spurs? Lautaro Martinez and Koulibaly both have two years left on their deals and have been heavily linked with moves. Would major wage increases tempt either or both to consider a move to Spurs? If you don't want to go the route of more established players, Paratici could potentially sign a whole host of players with upside in Vlahovic, Damsgaard, Aouar, Milenkovic, Locatelli and Berardi.

Perhaps a third route the club could go would involve keeping Kane and not being able to add more than one player potentially beyond Romero and Tomiyasu due to transfer fee limitations, but because of substantial wage bill savings, the club could opt to make a move for one or two big money loan deals (say Coutinho and/or Pjanic).

Still, if Kane is sold for the mooted 150 million pound fee, the squad should still be in a position to do well this season and in the seasons to come.

A transfer request would make no difference. We're still not going to sell him for any less than what he's worth.

olliec said:

It’s not money he’s after it’s trophies.

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You're reply to the wrong thread of posts then, as that's not really anything to do with it.

SpartanSpur said:

They oversaw the regression of the club. Firstly taking their eye off the ball on the squad at the key time as their focus was the stadium and their investment.

This pushed Poch to burnout and the Mourinho decision, whilst viable at the time, only seemed to devalue the club (because he certainly wouldn't take blame) and seemed to create a toxic atmosphere.

It's not like Kane missed a ton of chances in those games either. In fact he hardly got a touch. We were outclassed in pretty much all of them. We had a fair amount of the ball vs Liverpool but they held us at arms length really.

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All of which is fanciful confirmation bias, if you want to believe that Harry Kane and Pochettino had absolutely nothing to do with chucking away every chance we had to win something - with one of the best squads we've ever had.

Danfunkel said:

Let's just do a 3 year loan. £60m fee. Can go and win a few titles, stops him playing against us, then he can come back in his twilight, bang a few more goals in and get that record.

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Nah him and his skanky bother can both go

Going by Herc’s latest info it’s obvious he’s trying to force his way out, I will be very surprised if he turns up for training before the end of the transfer window.

Bluto Blutarsky said:

Yeah - count me out for the nostalgia tour. If he forces his way out, he takes his legacy and goodwill with him, and I don't ever want to see him back.

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I do think going to another PL club makes that a lot harder to do than a Barca or Madrid. Even more so when you sell out to an oil club.