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Thought better of Harry. If he's that desperate to leave then get rid, providing the money is right of course. I half knew this day would come, but thought he'd want to aim higher than Man City. Just becomes another player to pass through THFC.

Its more his brother being a twat and unprofessional ... he also is completely inept in his role for representing Harry, leeching his brothers money
 

TropicalYid

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Anyone know when he is due to report back to training?
It will be very interesting to see how he conducts himself then. Saying nothing is to say something.

Ive said it before. Kane is a bit "unlucky". Covid=not that much money in the big clubs anymore, his age, his price, hes on a long contract.
He might hand in a transfer request but that means nothing. Levy still want big big money. And now City seems like the only alternative. If they splash 100 mill on Graelish I cant see them having money for Kane aswell.

Kane is a great footballer. But he can ruin his legacy if he tries to force his way put.

Think Kane is stuck with us, and we are stuck with him. So lets see how this plays out once hes back in training and season starts.
 
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For me I personally find it very hard to blame him for those finals specifically and it gets my back up. He wasn't fully fit going into two of them and didn't get any real service in any of them. The same applied in the Euro final (he did bury his shootout pen at least). He's hardly had a shot in any of those games. Yes he played his part but his team were outplayed to a man.

I'm sure if he was playing for City or Liverpool in those finals he'd have had a bigger say on proceedings, which is why I can understand how he wants to leave. He's not the kind of player that can get the ball on the half way line and beat multiple players and score.

For me everything comes back to us being on the cusp of something special and failing to push on. We've been regressing and playing catch up ever since. If we were still in the CL and competing for titles he most likely wouldn't be begging to leave.

You're still fixated on 'blame'. To reiterate, you are the only one playing the 'blame' game. Blame is disempowering, and is generally a failure to fully consider the holistic reasons for a failure. Responsibility is the collective acceptance as a part of that failure.

For Kane to suggest he can't win things at the club, his is blaming. He is essentially the vice captain and in the most important position on the pitch; that is, scoring goals. Second is stopping goals, but that won't win you anything unless someone scores.

When Bale wanted to leave, it was easier to accept that, as he was having to get goals and win matches when the rest of the team looked awful; that has never been the case with Harry. He has been a fantastic player for us, but he's been in good company pretty much the whole time he's been here, so it's not even as simple as not having a team of sufficient quality.
 

SpartanSpur

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You have to understand the conformist nature of the basic minded English footballer.

If Souness and Jamie Redknapp say you aren't relevant until you win trophies for the richest team who already win those trophies without you - then that is what Mr basic minded footballer will do.

He doesn't possess the inspiration to care about whether that sought success is either profoundly meaningful or mindnumpingly vapid - Teddy Sheringham and Paul Merton will tell him he's NOW been validated. Career complete, me retire happy.

If that's what matters to him, it's depressing but ultimately his choice what to care about. But he doesn't get to dictate the terms of breaking his contract with the club, any more than Spurs get to dictate paying him less money had his ankle problems caused a serious decline.

Both parties made a contractual commitment for him to earn no less than £60m over 6 years service, whether Spurs or Kane's stock rose or fall.

To break that contract ALL parties need to be satisfied with the terms. Kane can "insist" all he likes, it doesn't mean diddly.

The frustration is that he brought up the Totti thing in the past so at one point he thought otherwise.

It does seem like all the noise around him and us has worn him down over the years and now he just wants the easy way out. I'm sure he'll be happy with his decision it it happens but he's walking away from a unique situation (legit club legend) to be just another player at City. I'm sure Berba doesn't care too much that he's all but a speck in Man Utds history.

Totally agree about the contract stuff though (I believe the deal was actually projected to be closer to £90m). The club have treated him very well over the years and gave him a massive salary the far and above what the likes of Bale, Berbatov or Modric would have been offered.
 

RuskyM

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you can't replace kane. sorry, but all this talk of "we'll just reinvest the money": there's really not a world where we become better through losing him. he's not just our best player, he's the heart and soul of the team, the face of the club. there is a reason city want him rather than the players we'd hypothetically buy.

secondly: he doesn't "deserve" anything. he's had multiple finals and he's not shown up in any of them. now, whilst this is obviously spiteful (he's easily the best player we've had in decades) i find his entire "it's everyone else's fault" schtick incredibly tiresome
 

LukaKranjcar

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Its more his brother being a twat and unprofessional ... he also is completely inept in his role for representing Harry, leeching his brothers money

True, but Harry doesn't seem to be doing much to dissuade him further. He's just as complicit at this point. Happily stood in front of the cameras with Gary Neville during the season and piped up. Jack Grealish hasn't said a word and seems to be getting his way. Harry has gone about this the wrong way imo
 

olliec

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Harry on his first day back.

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Spartanspurs

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Genuinely curious to see what reaction he'll get if he rocks up in a City shirt in two weeks. I think I'd like him to get no reaction, no boos (he's done enough for the club) but definitely also no cheers or applause. He'll obviously go down as a brilliant Tottenham player in the history books, but nothing more.

He had the potential to be a player who the Spurs kids of today would be telling their grand kids about He'd probably set every club record there is to set. Maybe he'd even rack up some PL records on the way and help us to our first silverware in a long, long time. Instead he'll go to City and win some trophies but no set of fans will love him for it. He'll just be one of many brilliant footballers who has played for us and one of the many world class footballers City fans saw bought in to continue their oil for trophies exchange scheme. Still achievements of course but he was on course for something so, so much more and it's sad he doesn't want it.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Anyone know when he is due to report back to training?
I suspect that is a closely guarded secret.

Monday would be 3 weeks since the Euros. But, if he is just thinking about sitting down and "talking" to Spurs next week, I don't think he'll be reporting for training on Monday.

At this stage, I would be shocked if he were ready to play against Man City - which will obviously add fuel to the fire.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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I think I'd like him to get no reaction, no boos (he's done enough for the club) but definitely also no cheers or applause. He'll obviously go down as a brilliant Tottenham player in the history books, but nothing more.
I can't imagine a scenario where there is "no" reaction. And, I can't really see a positive reaction. But, the reality is it is highly unlikely that he will be suiting up for Man City against us in week 1. Levy would not sanction the deal before then.

Assuming he will be sold, the most likely scenario is a deadline day deal, while Kane recuperates from some unknown malady on his own.
 

SpartanSpur

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You're still fixated on 'blame'. To reiterate, you are the only one playing the 'blame' game. Blame is disempowering, and is generally a failure to fully consider the holistic reasons for a failure. Responsibility is the collective acceptance as a part of that failure.

For Kane to suggest he can't win things at the club, his is blaming. He is essentially the vice captain and in the most important position on the pitch; that is, scoring goals. Second is stopping goals, but that won't win you anything unless someone scores.

When Bale wanted to leave, it was easier to accept that, as he was having to get goals and win matches when the rest of the team looked awful; that has never been the case with Harry. He has been a fantastic player for us, but he's been in good company pretty much the whole time he's been here, so it's not even as simple as not having a team of sufficient quality.

The team has been in a bad way and on a negative trajectory for a while now. Since the start of 2020 we were in relegation form. The Carabao Cup run last year was extremely fortunate in terms of opposition and we were totally outclassed in the final. If anything that defeat probably made him realise how far off winning we currently are.

I agree that Kane is playing the blame game to an extent. He's certainly looking to take the easy way out. I do believe this wouldn't be happening if we were still where we were at peak Poch.

I accept there are lots of factors involved in our decline but I just can't look past our failure to push on when we were on the cusp of something special. More specifically the season we failed to sign a single player. This seemed to be the turning point. I think a lot of Spurs fans agree with this.

I love Spurs and Kane has been a huge part of that, naturally I'm looking for someone to blame. It's not big or clever but it's simply how I feel. Personally I think the 'well kane never turned up in finals' line is along similar lines.
 

McFlash

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Have I missed something or is the previous 50 pages a merry go round of the same stuff?
From what I gather, some article in the telegraph but I'm trying to get my daughter to go to bed, so I haven't caught it yet!
 
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