Match Threads Palace vs Spurs - Match Thread - Day 4 - KO 12:30pm

Pebble Dash · Sep 11, 2021

TheVoiceofReason said:
Bollocks, we had players missing but he set it up completely wrong. Had talent on the bench. We were rinsed start to finish.

Talent? We had a kid in Gil who picked up a knock last week and needs to be integrated into the team slowly, Ndombele who’s yet to feature this season due to poor fitness and doesn’t want to be here, Scarlett who’s nowhere near ready.

werty · Sep 11, 2021

faze_coys said:

0.08 seems generous.

daniel chagas · Sep 11, 2021

There is nothing positive about this day. Nothing.

I mean, you could argue that losing 7 players to FIFA is terrible and it is, but the worst thing is the attitude on the field.

There's no excuse for only shooting on goal in the second half. Nuno not having changed the team at halftime is the most absurd of all.

U.S. Spurs Fan · Sep 11, 2021

Here in US I dvr'd the game because I needed some sleep. Got up around 9, saw the midfield that he started, and just fast forwarded the game until halftime. I knew what would happen and it did.

Much like last year, the team is just not fun to watch and much like last year, I probably won't watch much. Great work Levy.

jondy1 · Sep 11, 2021

we are fucked we just hit the iceberg

wrd · Sep 11, 2021

Well that was horrific from start to finish, highlighted some of the fragility that some of us were concerned with, I think moreso we were punished for such a negative line up, we had the opportunity to make changes at halftime and we didn't and were punished for it. Obviously Nuno was dealt a lot of bad cards today before and during the game but I think he could have prevented this performance by being braver in terms of team selection and subs with a view to getting us up the pitch.

SE Spurs · Sep 11, 2021

I'm fucking seething. Is there a reason why managers after they win manager of the month, suddenly become totally incompetent.

No one can ever EVER convince me Winks, Skipp, Hojberg in the same side is a good fucking idea. Don't care how many players are out.
Lucas the only player out there with any kind of pace or energy. What were they possibly thinking we were gonna get out of the game. The fact the same 11 went out the 2nd half was criminal. Absolutely shocking.

NEVILLEB · Sep 11, 2021

Just remember that Levy blamed Pochettino.

Think through that level of ungratitude for a second when Poch had been delivering quality football with little real investment.

The man is a football imbecile and since he sits at the top of the pyramid then everything below him will always go wrong. You will never win anything if the leader isn't good.

rez9000 · Sep 11, 2021

Shown up by a team managed by Patrick Vieira.

Patrick. Fucking. VIEIRA!!!!

doctor stefan Freud · Sep 11, 2021

PLTuck said:
That was terrible, but I really don't think you can underestimate how much not having Son, Steve, GLC, Romero, Sanchez, Dier after 5 mins available and us not being able to trust Tanguy has affected us.

Palace not kicking the ball out when Lucas was down was the turning point.

There’s a wider structural issue too. We don’t look any better than we did last season. The managerial appointment process was farcical, even by our standards, and there is zero evidence we’re breaking out of the defective, low block defensive mould that hampered us last season. We also under recruited this summer; we definitely needed a creative player to at least give us an appropriate, effective platform to launch counterattacks from. This is another mess, another rusty nail in the testicles that’ll work its way inwards until the next managerial appointment

The Opinionated Lurker · Sep 11, 2021

Oh well. When Nuno does eventually go Levy will just bring in the next manager who tells him he can make us 1970s Brazil w the current squad staying mostly the same bc actually challenging, not just talking about it, is too expensive for him and the board.
Edit: and for those who will say, “Levy didn’t get sent off” or “Levy didn’t put out that side today!”, you’re right, he didn’t. But he takes blame for Nuno even being here in the first place w the mess that was the manager search

DiamondLites · Sep 11, 2021

Well, I guess that was Spurs DNA in some ways

Barrd10 · Sep 11, 2021

Everyone should remember that whatever happens to Spurs now is down to Levi. He has been the constant for 20 years so it’s all down to him. For a lot of fans that is most of their lives he has been at Spurs making decisions that make him rich and us nothing really. Sometimes he had got lucky and we had a good team but he has never, ever tried to make the team great. He has built everything he needs to make money but never to make us really compete.

PLTuck · Sep 11, 2021

spurs9 said:
Good points but I think Nuno not making bringing on Ndombele and/or Gil at half time was the turning point.

It was obvious that the 3 holding midfielders weren't able to progress the ball (as I'm sure many would have predicted) and were just turning over possession and inviting pressure.

While I'd have liked to have seen one of those 2 come on, it was a physical game with all the players kicking each other all game. Gil is recovering from a knock, and you can't trust that Tanguy will be up for the fight. I do think that if you arent prepared to throw them on, they shouldn't be on the bench though.

If everyone had been available, that midfield and front 3 looks very different.

mpickard2087 · Sep 11, 2021

You can say it was one of those days and everything that could have gone wrong did - injuries beforehand, injuries during the game, an increasingly patched up defence, red cards, penalties, etc - but that would be kidding ourselves. We were second best throughout, had little discernible game plan, and were so flat today.

Early days, but much like last season, results and sheer effort have masked big deficiencies in quality/performance so far. It is inevitable that will run out though. You simply cannot offer so little with the ball, in terms of both your plan and then quality to enact it, and hope to do anything long term.

A game like that does nothing to allay my fears about Nuno and what football we're in for and what he's comfortable with. Mid-low block, give up the ball, seemingly pinning our hopes on Moura slaloming his/our way upfield so we can counter might be understandable against Man City, but Palace.... Just fuck off with that. It has to be better.

LeSoupeKitchen · Sep 11, 2021

werty said:
0.08 seems generous.

It must have been a back pass to the keeper. Can't think of anything else.

SonicSarr · Sep 11, 2021

daniel chagas said:
There is nothing positive about this day. Nothing.

I mean, you could argue that losing 7 players to FIFA is terrible and it is, but the worst thing is the attitude on the field.

There's no excuse for only shooting on goal in the second half. Nuno not having changed the team at halftime is the most absurd of all.

I saw a lot of positives today under the circumstances. Bad day at the office - move on.

TonyS · Sep 11, 2021

I've said it many times before. The only way we will ever be able to compete with the big boys, is to sell the club. It is more than obvious what is needed, and we simply don't have the dough to do it. And if anyone thinks Ole Joe will pony up, he won't. Levy has made that abundantly clear in the past. I felt when we appointed that Bank Of America to the board, that was the plan. We have somewhat of a marketable product.. Better make hay while the sun shines
Also, a lot of the dead wood is still on our books, and they won't be going anytime soon.
Finally, Kane has no interest, absolutely none, and it's a disgrace really. He gets extremely well paid, and should at least match that with somewhat of a performance. Shocking

easley91 · Sep 11, 2021

TheVoiceofReason said:
Bollocks, we had players missing but he set it up completely wrong. Had talent on the bench. We were rinsed start to finish.

What talent was on the bench? Only Gil really and when Dier gets injured and Tanganga sent off you're left with one change to make. Ndombele has been written off by basically everyone. That was a youthful bench.

SA_Spurs said:
finally, someone who's not knee jerking to the extreme - your thoughts are well balanced and fair. we were poor but nuno out, paratici clueless etc etc is such shit form 4 games into the season. Nuno's has had to deal with kane saga since he joined, then the south america / fifa crap over our players plus a bunch of injured players returning. Reading posts here its like he's had a fully fit squad - if this is the reaction to a loss in a game that is always tough for us at their home then I think many on here should save their hearts and keyboards and pack it in because its gonna be a long season of ups/downs whilst players bed in, etc. What is clear though is that we need to get rid of winks, probably dele needs to play from the bench and its time to bed in the players like Gil, Romero, emerson, etc into the first team. I'm pretty frustrated by this loss but there's plenty more games this season to right this performance

Don't get me wrong we were truly awful before the sending off. But, we are hamstrung by injuries and this Argentina nonsense. Dier going off early didn't help, though I thought Rodon was solid throughout until it unraveled at the end.

Nuno was at fault today for not changing it at HT, yet I can understand when Tanganga gets sent off you're left with one change in a game where the opposition have the ball and it calls for all hands on deck defensively. It called for a workhorse to defend (see Dele's block for an example) which Tanguy isn't.

Pochemon94 · Sep 11, 2021

CanadaSpurs said:
I suspect you’re way off on that one mate.

sorry man just needed to cool off/vent, literally 48 hours into no smokes, woke up at 4:30 to watch that dross, feeling better now, might just stay off the site for a day until i cool off more

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