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Match Threads Palace vs Spurs - Match Thread - Day 4 - KO 12:30pm

Match Prediction

  • Will stay Top of the League after 4 Straight Wins

    Votes: 100 42.6%

  • Palace to get their First win of the Season

    Votes: 77 32.8%

  • Score Draw

    Votes: 45 19.1%

  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 13 5.5%
  • Total voters
    235
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greaves

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L.S.U.Yiddo said:
If it fits in the trophy cabinet we'll take it. 2008 Carling Cup is getting lonely in there.
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I have designed a cabinet for it. It is extremely large, bigger than the stadium, and somewhat brutalist in style. I needed it to catch the eye, like our attacking play.
 
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adamsky

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worcestersauce said:
I'm discussing it in the context of people's reaction today, that is the pairing that has kept three clean sheets in the previous games and if you think another pair could do better than that I'd like to know how, The fact is that they have done it and today after ten minutes they were both missing and the player who would have taken their place was also missing then one of the players who replaced them was sent off and we've got people on here who seem to think that shouldn't have any effect on the result, quite apart from the two players who have been our means of powering forward this season were also out injured. To be honest there are times when I wonder just what the fuck some people expect.
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I appreciate the circumstances today and yet even with that in mind it was an abysmal, cowardly performance. Absolutely no threat or attacking intent. We could have 90s AC Milan defence but with a midfield of Skipp, Winks, Hojbjerg and Dele we would always have struggled to get anything. If everyone says before the game it is terrible selection and then we go and play terribly, then it is on the manager.
We had no balance to the team, asked no questions of a poor Palace team. The selection was so bad that it made everyone look poor. I seriously cannot get my head around how he thought it was the best option, and then having seen the first half then sent them out again. I was quite optimistic about Nuno but now am really worried about his judgment.
 
GutBucket

GutBucket

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Tactical mess with Winks and Dele basically in same position.
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Spurslove

Spurslove

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I thought we were all over the place today. Nothing exciting. No creativity. Unable to keep the ball and equally unable to win the ball. No goal threat. Started brightly but quickly faded. Chasing shadows. It didn't do us any favours to have Dier hobbling off after 10 minutes and Tanganga red-carded. Emerson got a rude awakening to the EPL, Kane was completely anonymous, Dele worked his nuts off, and Lucas looked bright but all to no avail. Basically, we were shit. I was very disappointed to see Gil wasn't even given a half hour.

Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. At least we've got a nice easy game next weekend to 'get back on the horse...'

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DiVaio

DiVaio

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homer hotspur said:
And just to rub salt in the wound, Palace chuck on one of those impossible to sign second strikers to score a couple.
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It's one match when we were horrible, played Davies as a centerback and with 10 man. I don't think it's coincidence he went only to Crystal Palace and not to much better club.
And if he's really good he will very soon replace Benteke as a main striker and no matter what he wouldn't replace Kane. Otherwise he wouldn't sign for them.
 
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stormfly

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I’m not sure where we go from here. An on song Ndombele will go some way to us becoming a more exciting attacking unit. It’s a real shame we couldn’t have kept Bale as well!
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Emerson Sanchez Romero Reggie
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Bale Kane Son

That would have been so fun to watch. Let’s hope Gil has some of that Bale x-factor.
 
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DenverSpur

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Guntz said:
Look how Zaha bullied our defence - but most posters on here turned their noses up at the idea of him.

A Traore/Zaha type player would work wonders in this team.
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But wasn’t Lucas doing exactly what Traore would have done. It wasn’t the lack of someone running from deep it was that the whole team was too deep and we had no pressure on their defense.
 
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DenverSpur

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JayB said:
There's a narrow gap between the idea that Levy would have spent if only the recruitment team had come up with a different target and the idea that he was unwilling to spend full stop, so if that's your gripe with the original post then fair enough.

At the end of the day though Levy did exercise his own football judgment to override that of his manager, his Director of Football, and his chief scout. It is indeed the case that we didn't spend (at least on that particular transfer) because Levy thought he knew better. If Levy was so willing to spend otherwise, I question why he allowed Paratici to focus for the final three weeks (i.e., the entire final 25% of the window) on an attacking target whose price was known and who Levy had determined wasn't worth that price. We can't know for certain what was going on in his mind, but the likeliest explanation IMO is that taking nine points from nine convinced him that the squad was sufficient and that further investment was unnecessary.

Well it's only two weeks later and today we've seen how wrong that was. It was clear throughout the window that if we didn't replace both Bale and Vinicius we'd be leaving ourselves short in attacking areas, and sure enough not so much as a single match went by after the close of the window before it has cost us. Levy has left us short yet again, the criticism he's getting is well-deserved.
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We didn’t lose today because Levy didn’t sanction Traore’s 50M transfer. We lost today because the manger got the starting team/tactics wrong and then did nothing to rectify his error. It’s ridiculous to lay the blame for every defeat at the feet of the chairman. Whatever the pros and cons of the transfer window and despite the absences we had today we still have a better squad selection than Palace so today’s performance is the fault of the coaching staff and players not the boardroom.
 
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Rout-Ledge

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Disastrous all round today. I’d be more confident that it was merely a blip if we hadn’t scored one goal from open play in the PL in four games.
 
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EireYid

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The 3-3 against West Ham last season was the match that made me realise all the hype probably isn't real and this team will more than likely just let me down again. That feeling has come earlier this season with this match
 
johnny69

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It looks like we'll be down to seventh by the end of Monday night which is a lot more realistic of where we should be it's not really been that great so far, all a bit meh, same old Spurs doesn't seem to matter who's in charge just that loser mentality
 
stormfly

stormfly

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johnny69 said:
It looks like we'll be down to seventh by the end of Monday night which is a lot more realistic of where we should be it's not really been that great so far, all a bit meh, same old Spurs doesn't seem to matter who's in charge just that loser mentality
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I think 7th is a fair reflection of the squad we have atm. Which is kind of sad.
 
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DannyNZ

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TOLBINY said:
Injuries forced him to change the back four and the front three - the choice of changing the midfield of PEH / Skipp / Dele is on Nuno. He should have started Gil up front IMHO.
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Spot on, seems so blindingly obvious, and hindsight not required. What was Nuno thinking, there was no reason to change the midfield and certainly not to combine those three. Playing Dele in the advanced position was hope over reality, we weren’t without options just Nuno inexplicably choose the wrong ones. With that CM combo and Dele/Moura ahead the chances of creating much were Jack. With that set up the threat had to come from the full backs but neither offered much quality when they got forward and we couldn’t find them with a passing game bereft of any vision, craft or execution.

not a great performance and Nuno this one is largely down to you.
 
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jolsnogross

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It's just one game, but Nuno has put a marker down now and it's a negative one. If he's not going to play a team that will ask questions of opponents, then he's wasting our time. We wasted 2 years on that approach.

If he's preoccupied with 'not losing', instead of trying to win, including against Chelsea next week, it'll be a short tenure and he'll only have himself to blame.
 
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mickman

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This game showed that we really needed to spend £50 million pounds on :
A) Adam Trayaway
B) An intelligent progressive midfielder
(No we don’t have one in the squad, I said intelligent)
 
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