Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

G Ron · Nov 8, 2021

thelak said:
I don’t see what Dele has ever shown in his game to suggest he could be an elite level central midfielder on a regular basis

I suspect he will be one of the first names Conte tries to move on if we can get a decent fee

I completely agree and it speaks volumes that Conte is the first manager (of the recent crop) to overlook Dele completely in his first matches in charge.
Conte hates players who aren’t completely committed to football and have other distractions, so I too see Dele moving on swiftly if a buyer can be found (which may not be straight forward).

PrettyColors · Nov 8, 2021

Not convinced that 3 ATB with only a Hojberg-Skipp midfield is the answer. I feel we will be overrun in CM by better sides, unless we replace Lucas with Lo Celso, in which case we will struggle to score or create anything (0 shots on target today)

the problem is our lineup lacks dynamic players. We need players who can fulfill multiple roles and play with energy, discipline, and aggression for an entire season. We have hardly any who can do that for 90 minutes at this point.

Long way ahead - but we all know that, don't we? I am at least encouraged by Conte's comments and attitude.

Gbspurs · Nov 8, 2021

PrettyColors said:
Not convinced that 3 ATB with only a Hojberg-Skipp midfield is the answer. I feel we will be overrun in CM by better sides, unless we replace Lucas with Lo Celso, in which case we will struggle to score or create anything (0 shots on target today)

the problem is our lineup lacks dynamic players. We need players who can fulfill multiple roles and play with energy, discipline, and aggression for an entire season. We have hardly any who can do that for 90 minutes at this point.

Long way ahead - but we all know that, don't we? I am at least encouraged by Conte's comments and attitude.

Yesterday's "no shots on target" wasn't quite the same as the Utd game. We had decent chances, but the players just lacked composure at key moments. That can be coached, at least they are getting in decent positions.

doctor stefan Freud · Nov 8, 2021

Tucker said:
I don’t think either are ideal at LWB. I like Davies, I’m probably one of his biggest defenders on here, but I think he’s more suited to being a full back or playing on the left of a three cb defence. By all accounts Conte rates him as LCB. While I think long term there will be better options available, he will likely make that spot his own for the time being.

Reggy will excel as a wing back imo, he didn’t have the best of games today, and suddenly he’s on the shit list for the usual negative nelly’s. But with the right coaching he’ll improve and start to really show why we spent all that money on him.

I agree with you about Davies; I think he’ll hold the LCB position until a better option presents itself but that probably won’t be a priority just yet. But I completely disagree with you about Reggie- I’ll gladly accept I’m wrong if he comes good, but he’s too wasteful in that position and isn’t strong or quick enough to compensate for his wastefulness. He’s been fairly disappointing since he’s got here, and is a liability in defence. A WB in Conte’s system has to be technically decent, able to carry the ball long distances without losing it unnecessarily along the way, which he does often

Serpico · Nov 8, 2021

PrettyColors said:
Not convinced that 3 ATB with only a Hojberg-Skipp midfield is the answer. I feel we will be overrun in CM by better sides, unless we replace Lucas with Lo Celso, in which case we will struggle to score or create anything (0 shots on target today)

the problem is our lineup lacks dynamic players. We need players who can fulfill multiple roles and play with energy, discipline, and aggression for an entire season. We have hardly any who can do that for 90 minutes at this point.

Long way ahead - but we all know that, don't we? I am at least encouraged by Conte's comments and attitude.

For me its not what we want it's what we have. Conte needs to find a balance. Only then can he replace the one's that are causing the wobble . Im assured he has targets and funds?

ardiles · Nov 8, 2021

ShelfWatcher said:
The thing that bothers me the most is set pieces. How many have we scored this season, how many conceded.
For sure we were in deficit under Nuno. Now we are in deficit under Conte. The goal Vitesse scored didn't cost us the game fortunately, but it did change the momentum.

We never seem to be determined to score from them. Look at today, they are down to ten, we have a corner, it's terrible and gives the initiative back to Everton.

We can’t compare how we’ve played under Jose & Nuno with Conte as he’s only been with us for a few days.

As the man has said himself - he, the players and the fans need to be patient.

He will improve a lot of players but those that don’t will be shipped off and replaced by better players.

Let’s give the man time before we make any judgments on him.

THE SPURSBOY · Nov 8, 2021

For the first time in a long time we have a manager who is a proven winner in his prime willing to work 100% and who expects every player to work just as hard otherwise he won’t pick them.

It’s the first time I have full confidence in the manager getting it right. Happy to let him do whatever he feels is best for the team and to choose whichever targets he feels will improve the team

easley91 · Nov 8, 2021

I know it's hard for some in our fanbase, but we need to be patient. It's not going to be overnight success, especially as he joined mid season and we can't do any transfers for another month or so. It's going to take time.

spurmin · Nov 8, 2021

easley91 said:
I know it's hard for some in our fanbase, but we need to be patient. It's not going to be overnight success, especially as he joined mid season and we can't do any transfers for another month or so. It's going to take time.

Oh come on. He’s had nearly a week.

spursfan77 · Nov 8, 2021

robotsonic said:
I don't feel like the 3 up top is working as intended, especially given how high the wingbacks are being allowed to roam. It feels like it's forcing all three of them to play on top of each other in the middle, especially when Lucas has a natural tendency to drift into the middle of the park, but they don't have the chemistry at all at the moment to pull it off. All three of them look like they've never met. I really do think that a 2 up top might suit us better both functionally during games (especially when we're trying to build something as we're not going to be able to steamroller teams up front in this state), and suits the options we have in the squad a bit better generally, chucking another body in midfield behind Kane and Son.

I'd far rather for example use Dele, Gio, Ndombele or maybe Gil in a roaming role centrally behind those two, looking to make late runs into the box and to be a body between the lines as a lynchpin between the deeper midfield to play short balls into the strikers, than see too many more times Lucas get the ball wide but not wide enough, and then run inside into a load of bodies. If feels like we're wasting a whole man on the pitch with him in this inside role at the moment, and we can ill afford that.

It is compounded by all three being out of form. It has only been one game with Conte through. What will be interesting is who catches his eye over the next two weeks while some of the starting XI players are away on international duty. It may well be that someone forces their way into the team.

Parklane Spur · Nov 8, 2021

doctor stefan Freud said:
I agree with you about Davies; I think he’ll hold the LCB position until a better option presents itself but that probably won’t be a priority just yet. But I completely disagree with you about Reggie- I’ll gladly accept I’m wrong if he comes good, but he’s too wasteful in that position and isn’t strong or quick enough to compensate for his wastefulness. He’s been fairly disappointing since he’s got here, and is a liability in defence. A WB in Conte’s system has to be technically decent, able to carry the ball long distances without losing it unnecessarily along the way, which he does often

I agree with this RE Reggie. Since he came I was expecting big things, the pundits were saying it was such a coup and were raving about him. I was watching the same matches and thinking he must be doing something that's going over my head, because he was nothing more than average. Then over time quite a few defensive errors that have lead to goals crept in. And it's not like he makes up with defensive frailties by being mustard going forward, underwhelming. I genuinely hope he will come good under Conte but your eyes don't lie and he's not been up to it....yet.

spursfan77 · Nov 8, 2021

bigfrooj said:
It’s like a TED talk! You can see why he is known as an inspirational coach.

Now the bad news for so many posters here. Conte obviously just wanted to get through this week and the two games. I think as far as he was concerned this game was written off and it was a fact finding exercise. You’re all going to be patient because it’s going to be months before we see massive changes and improvements. He’s a football coach not a magician.

The start is hilarious though. “I am err………..delighted” whilst sounding as opposite to that as possible. obviously because English is his second language but it’s amusing nonetheless.

I like the way he doesn’t blame the previous managers for poor fitness levels, just that for his football the players need to be fitter. But yeah it will take time as you say. Can’t polish a turd.

spids · Nov 8, 2021

I am sure Levy has told Paratici and Conte that funds in the summer will be bigger if we are in the CL. As such I think we will look for some tactical upgrades in January to make that more likely.

spursfan77 · Nov 8, 2021

doctor stefan Freud said:
I agree with you about Davies; I think he’ll hold the LCB position until a better option presents itself but that probably won’t be a priority just yet. But I completely disagree with you about Reggie- I’ll gladly accept I’m wrong if he comes good, but he’s too wasteful in that position and isn’t strong or quick enough to compensate for his wastefulness. He’s been fairly disappointing since he’s got here, and is a liability in defence. A WB in Conte’s system has to be technically decent, able to carry the ball long distances without losing it unnecessarily along the way, which he does often

We will need a fullback on one side who is more of an attacker (but can play full back) and Conte will look for one unless Sessegnon can finally pull his finger out. He’s always had one in his past teams. Young, Moses, Alonso etc. At the moment we have two fullbacks playing a role where they are expected to be a goal threat too. Eg. The match thread had people complaining about regi not scoring from the Kane cross. Fair enough if it was a winger or attacker coming in from the other side but it’s a left back. He’s never been asked to be a goal scorer before. It’s something Conte will want addressed in the transfer market for sure.

ShelfWatcher · Nov 8, 2021

ardiles said:
We can’t compare how we’ve played under Jose & Nuno with Conte as he’s only been with us for a few days.

As the man has said himself - he, the players and the fans need to

ardiles said:
We can’t compare how we’ve played under Jose & Nuno with Conte as he’s only been with us for a few days.

As the man has said himself - he, the players and the fans need to be patient.

He will improve a lot of players but those that don’t will be shipped off and replaced by better players.

Let’s give the man time before we make any judgments on him.

Of course I'm all for Conte and giving him plenty of time. Am not making any judgments on him except that so far its been a positive and promising start
All I'm saying is that one aspect of our game that bothers me is set pieces. Naturally I hope and expect that Conte will work on this aspect as there are points and wins to be gained if we turn this part of our game around

bigfrooj · Nov 8, 2021

spursfan77 said:
The start is hilarious though. “I am err………..delighted” whilst sounding as opposite to that as possible. obviously because English is his second language but it’s amusing nonetheless.

I like the way he doesn’t blame the previous managers for poor fitness levels, just that for his football the players need to be fitter. But yeah it will take time as you say. Can’t polish a turd.

He'll roll this turd in glitter by the end of the season and replace it with a football team. I can't believe the number that expected instant results after four days and two games. It's the deliveroo generation I guess.

spursfan77 · Nov 8, 2021

bigfrooj said:
He'll roll this turd in glitter by the end of the season and replace it with a football team. I can't believe the number that expected instant results after four days and two games. It's the deliveroo generation I guess.

Im not sure many have thought it would come instantly. Although I thought we looked better yesterday than Thursday. Realistically we just had to get through these two games and then he could have a good look at them in the next two weeks plus of course prepare for the games against our opposition. I don’t suppose he had much time at all to analyse Everton before we played them but now he’ll have a bit of time to look at who we face over the next month.

Rout-Ledge · Nov 8, 2021

Parklane Spur said:
I agree with this RE Reggie. Since he came I was expecting big things, the pundits were saying it was such a coup and were raving about him. I was watching the same matches and thinking he must be doing something that's going over my head, because he was nothing more than average. Then over time quite a few defensive errors that have lead to goals crept in. And it's not like he makes up with defensive frailties by being mustard going forward, underwhelming. I genuinely hope he will come good under Conte but your eyes don't lie and he's not been up to it....yet.

Couldn’t agree more. The concern when he arrived was that Madrid would trigger their buy back clause. That seems extremely unlikely now. He’s 25 next month, he should be doing much better than he has. He’s not been awful, just underwhelming. He should be better suited to the LWB role, though.

fishhhandaricecake · Nov 8, 2021

sundanceyid10 said:
I love all the optimism that the appointment seems to have brought to the fans, but we are honestly not going anywhere with Levy stinking the place out. I give him credit for the stadium but he is way way way past his sale by date. It gives me no pleasure saying it and wish I could get more excited, but I’m not going to excited about any transfers while he is still hanging around, he won’t be able to resist sticking his fingers in the pie and f****** it all up.

Mate we’ve just hired one of the top 4 managers in the world, have a bit of optimism for goodness sake.

COYS

GutBucket · Nov 8, 2021

Inter was best when they had Eriksen/Brozović/Barrella midfield, sometimes Vidal instead of Eriksen.

Skipp looks good in Brozović role, one thing to improve is passing though.

Ndombele would be better than Brozović if he could run, but he can't. He can play more advanced like Barrela and score goals though.

Lo Celso could work in Brozović role but he is one footed and top percentile in turnovers so better in Barrela role.

Hojbjerg is too slow for either role sadly.

There is nobody like Vidal or Eriksen at the moment. Skipp can be improved if we can get Brozović for free, otherwise wouldn't mind him starting and developing. Don't think we need more than one of Lo Celso/Ndombele, unless they massively improve in some areas.

Huge summer transfer window ahead of us, until then we need to be patient. And if there is one coach who will get the benefit of doubt, it's Conte.

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