Jamturk
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He lacks physicality, positioning and he isn't creative enough for me.
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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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He lacks physicality, positioning and he isn't creative enough for me.
Japhet
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I'd say that similar to Hojbjerg, he's OK in a 3 man midfield but gets badly exposed in a pivot. Neither has the pace to cover the ground nor the composure to deal with being pressed and yet Conte persists with it game after game.
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He's always been far better in possession than out of it particularly as you say when teams sit off. Skipp offers far more off the ball but he's injured now. Also Dier is the one who plays out from the back so i think Winks is even more under pressure without him. Winks is always at best going to be best used as a bit part player. I just get bored of the constant need some people have to have a go at him when he shouldn't be expected to be a great player.
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Well we do have Skipp who is one of our own in midfield and has been starting a lot. However I can't agree Winks hasn't improved under Conte. He's playing more because he's been better.
Trix
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Mate Winks was Winks on Sunday for me. As soon as he's pressed he loses the ball, then he hides so as not to be in that position again. His touches then are usually one touch and back to source which gets us no where but into trouble. Again out of possession he just occupies space. Doesn't press or pick up runners just sits wherever the opposition aren't. He almost does everything backwards finds space when we are defending, then gets tight when we are in possession. Again against sides that sit in a low block he's ok and has the odd good performance, but how often do you get games like that in the Prem? He's playing because the options at the moment are non existent and NDombele, GLC and Dele had offers and have been lax at training as well as on the pitch.
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He’s playing more because Skipp is out, once skippy’s fit I’m sure it’ll be him and Bentancur.
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I think he's in the same sort of boat as Dele in that he was fine in a high press team but we haven't been that in some time. He's best used as a sub when we're pressing forward and need someone who can pick a pass. I think he's good when he has strikers to play into but the deeper he gets the more he struggles. Conte has done better than I expected to this point but I think he has maximised what he can get out of him. It just seems pointless for him to always be berated for being well Winks.
Trix
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PEH is getting the same treatment as is Dav, Doherty, Royal etc etc. He's not being scapegoated for being Winks, he's getting called out for not being good enough and hiding during games.
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Stuff the Romans! What have they ever done for us?
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I hate booing as well... don't like it at all... BUT I agree that fans should be allowed to show negative feelings... if I had been at the stadium on sunday I would have done the same at half time... we fans invest a lot of money in the club. Tickets, merchandise, travels and so on...
Football is our hope in troubled times. It's what we look forward to every weekend... our outlet for feelings, stress and anger. If you've had a bad week or tough period in life there is nothing better than going to a match or watching on TV.
If you see highly paid footballers who don't give 100%... or who are not focused... or don't run or fight... then we have every right to boo... I swear a lot during bad games. But it doesn't come through to the players. And it shouldn't... Booing does. Singing does.. noises in general are our only way to communicate live.
Booing is a 1000 times better than fighting, throwing things, hooliganism, racism ... which we unfortunately still see in modern football in every country.
I'm sure that Conte has experienced worse scenarios or atmospheres in his football-life... especially in Italy... and the players have to accept frustration when the same mistakes or lack of effort happens over and over again. (Same goes for the board and owners)
As long as booing doesn't become an automatic behaviour at every bad effort or misplaced pass or negative result. Then I'm fine with it.
Give Conte time... and behave in a well-balanced way. If you want to achieve an effect by booing then don't overdo it.
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mil1lion
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Has Conte not essentially highlighted this fact though? Without naming the players he has clearly said this team isn't good enough and has some way to go. All we get after every bad result is people just relaying the fact that certain players aren't good enough for where we want to be. Well sorry but we're a team that finished 7th last season, the performances are what I expect from a team that has been where we have the last couple of years. People need to set their expectations at least until we've had a summer clear out.
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Conte saying he’s used to at least a 1% chance of winning the league but his situation at Tottenham is different and he has a 1% chance of finishing 4th.
He’s yet again laying it on thick to the media to drill home the reality of the level of our squad currently as well as the competitiveness of the league and the many teams who are improving like wolves Brighton Villa Newcastle etc.
But he keeps saying that we have to try and we have to rebuild and we have to be patient. If we have a good summer window with a good 5-6 in that he wants then I think he is going absolutely no where and he will be relishing this challenge. He’s that type of character who loves and thrives on a difficult challenge.
He re-built Juve. He rejuvenated Chelsea. He rejuvenated Italy. He re-built Inter and now he has a bigger challenge to re-build Tottenham and I really think as long as he sees good progress in the summer transfer window then not only will be stay but he will be relishing this challenge.
I believe he’s also saying all of these comments in the media because deep down he believes in his ability as a manager and if he does turn us back into a top force and win something with us then it will add a huge amount to his legacy and ego.
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He’s yet again laying it on thick to the media to drill home the reality of the level of our squad currently as well as the competitiveness of the league and the many teams who are improving like wolves Brighton Villa Newcastle etc.
But he keeps saying that we have to try and we have to rebuild and we have to be patient. If we have a good summer window with a good 5-6 in that he wants then I think he is going absolutely no where and he will be relishing this challenge. He’s that type of character who loves and thrives on a difficult challenge.
He re-built Juve. He rejuvenated Chelsea. He rejuvenated Italy. He re-built Inter and now he has a bigger challenge to re-build Tottenham and I really think as long as he sees good progress in the summer transfer window then not only will be stay but he will be relishing this challenge.
I believe he’s also saying all of these comments in the media because deep down he believes in his ability as a manager and if he does turn us back into a top force and win something with us then it will add a huge amount to his legacy and ego.
Antonio Conte talks down Tottenham's chances of a top-four finish
The Italian made a bright start to life at the club when he took over but they now sit eighth in the standings after three defeats on the bounce to Chelsea, Southampton and Wolves.
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Except they wouldn’t. Putin would, after assessing the squad, claim there was genuine quality that gave him much promise. Then we’d start brightly, not losing our first five or six matches, allowing us all to believe again until a bizarre loss at Watford in the final minute of injury time leaves Putin puzzled, threatening to annexe Georgia in a bizarre post match interview. Then, the rot sets in- Putin develops a soft spot for Harry Winksybollockov, building the team identity around him: we crash out to Norwich, Newcastle and Exeter in the cup before a bare chested Putin, enraged and increasingly paranoid fires a Kalashnikov into the home fans after they start singing a filthy rendition of The Red Flag. Defeated and utterly broken, Putin retires from international affairs and tries his hand at punditry where he builds a reputation for bating an increasingly ape-like Martin Keown
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More likely his legacy will be ruined at spurs but if he manages to achieve anything then he will be up for Victoria cross, Nobel peace prize and be made a saint by the Catholic church.?Conte saying he’s used to at least a 1% chance of winning the league but his situation at Tottenham is different and he has a 1% chance of finishing 4th.
He’s yet again laying it on thick to the media to drill home the reality of the level of our squad currently as well as the competitiveness of the league and the many teams who are improving like wolves Brighton Villa Newcastle etc.
But he keeps saying that we have to try and we have to rebuild and we have to be patient. If we have a good summer window with a good 5-6 in that he wants then I think he is going absolutely no where and he will be relishing this challenge. He’s that type of character who loves and thrives on a difficult challenge.
He re-built Juve. He rejuvenated Chelsea. He rejuvenated Italy. He re-built Inter and now he has a bigger challenge to re-build Tottenham and I really think as long as he sees good progress in the summer transfer window then not only will be stay but he will be relishing this challenge.
I believe he’s also saying all of these comments in the media because deep down he believes in his ability as a manager and if he does turn us back into a top force and win something with us then it will add a huge amount to his legacy and ego.
Antonio Conte talks down Tottenham's chances of a top-four finish
The Italian made a bright start to life at the club when he took over but they now sit eighth in the standings after three defeats on the bounce to Chelsea, Southampton and Wolves.
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Conte saying he’s used to at least a 1% chance of winning the league but his situation at Tottenham is different and he has a 1% chance of finishing 4th.
He’s yet again laying it on thick to the media to drill home the reality of the level of our squad currently as well as the competitiveness of the league and the many teams who are improving like wolves Brighton Villa Newcastle etc.
But he keeps saying that we have to try and we have to rebuild and we have to be patient. If we have a good summer window with a good 5-6 in that he wants then I think he is going absolutely no where and he will be relishing this challenge. He’s that type of character who loves and thrives on a difficult challenge.
He re-built Juve. He rejuvenated Chelsea. He rejuvenated Italy. He re-built Inter and now he has a bigger challenge to re-build Tottenham and I really think as long as he sees good progress in the summer transfer window then not only will be stay but he will be relishing this challenge.
I believe he’s also saying all of these comments in the media because deep down he believes in his ability as a manager and if he does turn us back into a top force and win something with us then it will add a huge amount to his legacy and ego.
Antonio Conte talks down Tottenham's chances of a top-four finish
The Italian made a bright start to life at the club when he took over but they now sit eighth in the standings after three defeats on the bounce to Chelsea, Southampton and Wolves.
I think he's taking it way too far now and is being a bit of a dick tbh. Imagine Nuno said this with the exact same squad. We'd all ask what his job is if not to improve things.
We still piss on Mourinho for saying "same coach different players."
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I doubt levy will say anything but I bet deep down he’s not exactly over the moon with Conte constant negative tone, even if he’s being realistic. If you’re paying an elite manager top whack I think you’d consider that person should be doing their utmost to lift the general mood. Conte now has me expecting to lose every game so I can’t imagine how the players are feeling it’s hardly inspirational.
Trix
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Of course. I understand completely that he's not alone. Thing is I don't have an issue with him not being good enough. The problem I have is with him hiding and coasting through games. I don't see a lack of desire from Doherty or Sanchez, I do from Winks. Not closing down shots and tracking runners is not because he's not got enough ability.
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Conte saying he’s used to at least a 1% chance of winning the league but his situation at Tottenham is different and he has a 1% chance of finishing 4th.
He’s yet again laying it on thick to the media to drill home the reality of the level of our squad currently as well as the competitiveness of the league and the many teams who are improving like wolves Brighton Villa Newcastle etc.
But he keeps saying that we have to try and we have to rebuild and we have to be patient. If we have a good summer window with a good 5-6 in that he wants then I think he is going absolutely no where and he will be relishing this challenge. He’s that type of character who loves and thrives on a difficult challenge.
He re-built Juve. He rejuvenated Chelsea. He rejuvenated Italy. He re-built Inter and now he has a bigger challenge to re-build Tottenham and I really think as long as he sees good progress in the summer transfer window then not only will be stay but he will be relishing this challenge.
I believe he’s also saying all of these comments in the media because deep down he believes in his ability as a manager and if he does turn us back into a top force and win something with us then it will add a huge amount to his legacy and ego.
Antonio Conte talks down Tottenham's chances of a top-four finish
The Italian made a bright start to life at the club when he took over but they now sit eighth in the standings after three defeats on the bounce to Chelsea, Southampton and Wolves.
In the video he doesn’t say we have a 1% chance of fourth at all. He says he only needs to see a 1% of fourth to think he can get it. His words have all been twisted. Yet again. Our fans need to stop falling for this weird narrative every single week.
Bluto Blutarsky
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Watching the players "perform" in these last two matches has me thinking we might not win again...
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