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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

Stamford

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It's amazing we go through all this stress and posturing from conte to try and force levy to spend less than our rivals.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I don't know why we are focusing on the forward line? Perhaps because it's where we are strongest but they are far superior defensively Gabriel and Saliba are a very good partnership, and Ramsdale isn't throwing the ball into his own net every other game. Without a solid back line everything in front will be more of a struggle. If you have confidence in those behind you, you are more likely to take risks and play more adventurously, that's just how life is. If you are financially secure you are more likely to buy a fancy sports car, and take nice holidays to far off exotic climes than if you aren't.
It’s also why conte keeps talking about first building a ‘foundation’
 

Shanks

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I can’t quite understand what people expect.

woth conte, we have an actual proven winner of a manager, yet the club aren’t providing him with the players he needs that he knows he would win with.

our squad is awful, shockingly bad for a top 4 team.

inwas pissed about the Villa game, it was pre Kulu and Bents, and goes to show that those two missing, we are back to square one.

our defence literally gifts the opposition goals, no team can expect to win with a defence like we have, no foundation, no security, no trust, and no ability to built momentum.

conte cannot magic capability into players, no manager can - all bar one defender shouldn’t really be in the squad ??‍♂️

manager needs proper backing, otherwise it’s the exact same cycle
 

Hakkz

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I can’t quite understand what people expect.

woth conte, we have an actual proven winner of a manager, yet the club aren’t providing him with the players he needs that he knows he would win with.

our squad is awful, shockingly bad for a top 4 team.

inwas pissed about the Villa game, it was pre Kulu and Bents, and goes to show that those two missing, we are back to square one.

our defence literally gifts the opposition goals, no team can expect to win with a defence like we have, no foundation, no security, no trust, and no ability to built momentum.

conte cannot magic capability into players, no manager can - all bar one defender shouldn’t really be in the squad ??‍♂️

manager needs proper backing, otherwise it’s the exact same cycle

So this is all out of Contes hands then? He might as well stay at home until he gets those extra players?
 

PeeEyeEmPee

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I just want to know where all this "Conte hasn't been backed" energy was in August, when most people thought we'd had a good transfer window
 

FinnYid

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Palace, Arsenal, City, Fulham, City - how many points will we get from next 5? Where we will be at the table at that point?
 

ljinko888

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Two things can be right at the same time.

Number 1: Levy falls short in pushing the boat out to get the necessary quality of player in to get us to the next level. Three reputable managers have said the same thing now.

Number 2: Levy is not in charge of tactics and who is selected to play. That's down to the manager and the last two managers have been defensive minded.
 

Stamford

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I just want to know where all this "Conte hasn't been backed" energy was in August, when most people thought we'd had a good transfer window

We did. Now we need another, and another and more after that. Backing a manager isn't one window. It's why Arsenal are going for Mudryk and Felix this window. Thats backing a manager.
 

Johno1470

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Every Arsenal fan I've spoken to(and to be fair it's not many) have basically said any long term injuries to their midfield 2 and they are fucked as things stand. So whilst they are coping right now it's because they've kept all their key players fit and playing. They don't have great depth either but they have been luckier thus far with injuries and it's a big reason they are where they are, amongst other factors of course.
The exact same could be said for us.
No Bentancur and PEH we would be screwed.
 

PeeEyeEmPee

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We did. Now we need another, and another and more after that. Backing a manager isn't one window. It's why Arsenal are going for Mudryk and Felix this window. Thats backing a manager.
It's the 3rd of January. How would any signings this window have helped us take more than a point of Brentford and Villa, after which all the complaints have intensified? Surely the time to complain about Conte not being backed in THIS window is after it shuts?

Besides, the majority of the moaning I've seen, both on here and elsewhere, is about the business we didn't do in the summer.
 

McFlash

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Oct 19, 2005
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So this is all out of Contes hands then? He might as well stay at home until he gets those extra players?
No matter what you think of Conte, do you really expect him to succeed where so many other managers have failed?
Apart from Romero and Lenglet (who the jury is still out on, not to mention he's not even our player), the defence is still the same one that let Poch down.

I don't think any manager could get that lot performing to high levels.
 

Stamford

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It's the 3rd of January. Surely the time to complain about Conte not being backed in THIS window is after it shuts?

Besides, the majority of the moaning I've seen, both on here and elsewhere, is about the business we didn't do in the summer.

firstly we didn't do enough in the summer as we didn't fill the priority positions - was a good start, not perfect.

people are anxious on the 3rd of Jan because the ownership fails to deliver on transfers time and time again over two decades. Surely people can understand that. This feeling isn't baseless.

let's see where we are at the end of Jan but seeing who we are like with compared to o or rivals. Doesn't fill with me all the confidence in the world.
 

PeeEyeEmPee

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No matter what you think of Conte, do you really expect him to succeed where so many other managers have failed?
Apart from Romero and Lenglet (who the jury is still out on, not to mention he's not even our player), the defence is still the same one that let Poch down.

I don't think any manager could get that lot performing to high levels.
No, but I kind of expected him to succeed with a whole bunch of new players that the other managers didn't have tbh. You might have more of a point if the defence was the only problem area in the team, but none of the defence, midfield and attack look like they've even met each other most of the time, never mind trained together.
 

McFlash

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I just want to know where all this "Conte hasn't been backed" energy was in August, when most people thought we'd had a good transfer window
Then you're really not grasping what been said.
Yes, he was backed to an extent during the summer but it wasn't enough, especially when you look at how much work needs to be done with our squad.
The summer window was ok in that it added some depth to our squad but we didn't really get Conte more than a couple of players for the first team and one of those is on loan.

People are now responding to the itk news that Levy might be getting cold feet, not to mention what Conte himself has said, in that we're looking for young potential on affordable wages.
That is not backing Conte, like it wouldn't be backing any manager who was tasked with pushing the top teams.
Nobody can challenge the top teams with a handful of loans and youngsters.
 

Gb160

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I’m at the point where I can’t even be arsed to get wound up by it.
It seems pretty obvious Conte won’t be sufficiently backed to really kick on, and Enic don’t look to be going anywhere anytime soon...they’re happy to let their cash cow just keep getting fatter.

I just feel defeated, and a bit stupid really...as a few months ago I really felt the penny had dropped for Levy and with a world class manager in his prime he’d finally bankroll a proper rebuild, not the piecemeal bollocks it seems likely we’ll get.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
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I’m at the point where I can’t even be arsed to get wound up by it.
It seems pretty obvious Conte won’t be sufficiently backed to really kick on, and Enic don’t look to be going anywhere anytime soon...they’re happy to let their cash cow just keep getting fatter.

I just feel defeated, and a bit stupid really...as a few months ago I really felt the penny had dropped for Levy and with a world class manager in his prime he’d finally bankroll a proper rebuild, not the piecemeal bollocks it seems likely we’ll get.
You're not the only one.
 
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