knowlespurs
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Or one who got us 4th from nowhere last season over the Messiah arteta
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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spursfan77
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It happens at every club though. Just look at Liverpool’s defeat and Carragher and the wider media’s reaction to it - they need to go out and spend £200 million!
It is the same with us. I swear we are at a point in the human race where we are the thickest and most short term and tv/social media/the papers feeds off this and makes it worse. If everyone just put down their phone, turned off the tv etc and went and did something then they’d realise it’s just a loss. Teams can’t win every week.
RuskyM
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Arteta didn’t have a short term contract whilst arguing he needed patience. I know this is what we get from him but it all feels so temporary.
hamsup_sotong
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Some of us are desperate to win. All we wanna see is a proper attempt at backing our manager for once. Win or lose at least the club from top to bottom are united in 1 goal.
knowlespurs
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That's pretty irrelevant mate , if anything makes his achievement in getting 4th even better
FibreOpticJesus
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It is clear that Conte achieved with an inadequate squad as did Poch. They both called for a major overhaul (as did Jose when he understood the technical quality of the squad). The problem is that Levy is refusing to understand that you can achieve above expectations for a relatively short period of time but that cannot be sustained. The squad realizes this and know many of them will be surplus to requirements and then they are either unable to keep up the enhanced level of performance and become fatigued, both physically and mentally, and or they become demotivated and disruptive (be it deliberate or feeling safe on large long term contracts). The same happens in business. Many of us worked with teams who have been set targets beyond their collective skill sets. You drive the teams and they achieve beyond expectations but you know it is not sustainable. You tell the board that your teams need significant investment but they believe you and your team will meet the even higher set targets but fail as the energy fades. Levy’s approach is
? whilst hoping things will work out. I believe Conte could change his team to accommodate their shortfalls. But to what end? Conte is doing the same as any other manager in this situation shouting but not being heard and he is now putting his cv on the market as he can see the trees in the wood and many need chopping. I have seen the Levy approach during business acquisitions. If that was his plan he has missed the boat.
RuskyM
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He’s been given about £180m in one year.
Stamford
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man's our rivals have had more. It's not enough to do this once, you need to do it every window cos that's what everyone else is doing.
knowlespurs
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To those who want Conte gone would be interested to hear what they think will happen if he does
Trix
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It's one of those isn't it. It's ok for you to call your brother a twat, but if anyone else does
It's actually getting exhausting now trying to get through to them, and tbh it's probably not worth it. I don't think some of them care if we win anything or not. I don't think they get this isn't about Conte the man or how we are playing, it's about backing a guy actually trying to address the underlying problems at the club, and until those problems are addressed and overcome we will never be anything more than "Spursy". Whether they are doing it intentionally or not, the biproduct of getting Conte out is that they are enabling Levy to continue to half arse the football side of things for the foreseeable.
This really is an opportunity to stick it to Levy like we've never had before. 30 blokes outside the ground chanting and a couple of banners here and there in the ground will have no effect. If though, if, the fans get behind Conte and his message to the club, Levy has nowhere left to hide. If they don't levy has another reset, rinse and repeat.
hamsup_sotong
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good squad rotation players yes but no immediate upgrades to the 1st team... arsenal for eg got jesus and zinchenko who walk into their 1st team
DanielJohnCosta
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i'd love to know what the combined start 11 would be
Nerine
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Keep seeing this take and It doesn’t make sense. He’s not “doing us a favour by being here.” He’s not thinking like that or saying that.
People are misconstruing it. ??
??How much of that is system, form and confidence, though? Is Lloris - who captained France to a WC final - really worse than Ramsdale - who sat on England’s bench? Is the Dier of last season worse than Gabriel?
hamsup_sotong
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on current form if we're playing a 433
ramsdale
Ben shite romero saliba zinchenko
partey benty gilbratargaard
saka/kulu martinelli kane
sundanceyid10
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Fans want to win as well. Levy has a different idea of what winning is and it’s not trophies..
Nerine
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It's one of those isn't it. It's ok for you to call your brother a twat, but if anyone else does
It's actually getting exhausting now trying to get through to them, and tbh it's probably not worth it. I don't think some of them care if we win anything or not. I don't think they get this isn't about Conte the man or how we are playing, it's about backing a guy actually trying to address the underlying problems at the club, and until those problems are addressed and overcome we will never be anything more than "Spursy". Whether they are doing it intentionally or not, the biproduct of getting Conte out is that they are enabling Levy to continue to half arse the football side of things for the foreseeable.
This really is an opportunity to stick it to Levy like we've never had before. 30 blokes outside the ground chanting and a couple of banners here and there in the ground will have no effect. If though, if, the fans get behind Conte and his message to the club, Levy has nowhere left to hide. If they don't levy has another reset, rinse and repeat.
It’s baffling that people don’t understand the above. ??
Trix
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They'll get Poch back, he'll be all smiley and grateful on Tv and the football will improve. Then Kane will fuck off asap, he'll be replaced by Danny Ings and 4 players no one has heard of, and after a couple of years Poch will be back in Levy's office telling him he needs a squad rebuild which will fall completely on deaf ears. Poch will decide that the only way around this is to revolutionise football with his inverted Christmas tree formation(clutching his Ardiles book of football management) the players will hate it and he'll be all sulky and miserable and gone a few months later.
GutBucket
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Perisic better than Zinchenko so far.
Trix
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You do realise when you do this you do so with a heavy defensive bias towards your own team? We all do. When they do the same on Arsemania the number of posters here calling them deluded and asking what planet are they on etc is mind blowing considering we do exactly the same.
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