Tottenham Takeover Talk

DCSPUR64 · Jan 15, 2023

offside_ruel_fox said:
It would be good for once to see Chelsea put in all the hard work to sign and player and we just swoop in at the last minute and nick him off them.

Especially if we didn’t really need to sign said player.

We would get one back on them with the Willian debatable!
On the takeover, whatever happens, I would always support the club, for better or worse till the day I leave this world. Amen ?

mil1lion · Jan 15, 2023

WiganSpur said:
We obviously need to get rid of Levy, I think everyone knows we're not winning anything with him in charge. But i'd rather us wait 3-4 years for the "right" investment that will allow us to have our cake and eat it. I'm not sure we need a great deal more cash, we don't even know at this point if the problem is ENIC or Levy himself. Cash obviously plays a part, but I still think 70% of the reason why we aren't successful is because we're a poorly run football club on the pitch with no long term strategy or identity put in place.

Trouble is if we wait 3-4 years we don't have Conte and Kane. This really is the time for investment so we don't get left behind.

Roberts84 · Jan 15, 2023

whitesocks said:
Enic would want a property developer to partner with, but I suspect no-one really fancies that in the current climate. Enic know about property and if it was sensible to start that now, it would be happening. That's for the longer term, imo.

In any case it is a sports investor they are courting. Enic might just print out £1bil of new shares and that would create income for the club, but at the cost of all shares being diluted. Putting aside FFP, £1bil would make us competitive and if that doubled the value of the club, then that makes financial sense for everyone.

Why would Enic need a property developer? I thought the flats and sports centre had been designed with planning agreed in principle. They would need funding in place and a social housing provider to partner with, which I assume they already have and if not wouldn’t be too difficult.

Duke of Northumberland · Jan 15, 2023

bc205 said:
I think he means gdp per head of population. Qatar used to be number 1 for this, think they're top 5 now.

It has a very small population- outnumbered by the migrant construction workers whose exploitation we’ve heard so much about. It’s small size and vulnerability against its neighbours is why it went for the WC and these sports investments- trying to put itself on the map.

Trent Crimm · Jan 15, 2023

Roberts84 said:
Why would Enid need a property developer? I thought the flats and sports centre had been designed with planning agreed in principle. They would need funding in place and a social housing provider to partner with, which I assume they already have and if not wouldn’t be too difficult.

Why are the famous 5 getting a kicking ? ?

chas vs dave · Jan 15, 2023

Gb160 said:
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What about don't caretar?

SirHarryHotspur · Jan 15, 2023

ukdy said:
Not sure if already posted..

PSG to leave Parc des Princes amid mayor row

Paris Saint-Germain will leave the Parc des Princes, their home ground since the club's formation in 1970.

www.espn.com

Also not sure if QSI was already aware, and is exploring options hence speaking to DL / ENIC.

Might have comparisons with Levy threatening to move Spurs to Stratford, money will probably talk in the end..
I wonder how long it will be before West Ham want buy out the London Stadium ?

elfy · Jan 15, 2023

whitesocks said:
How would a minority investment allow us to buy more/better players? If they buy £1bil of Joe Lewis's shares, then that money is going towards a new yacht. He is simply cashing in on his original investment. It is not income for the club.
Of course there are naming rights, but why should they pay over the odds for that? If anything, after giving Joe a nice profit, they might expect to get naming rights on the cheap.
??

Because we are not publically listed, the club can simply issue new shares worth whatever percentage is agreed. ENIC wouldn't actually sell any of their shares.

What is proposed (seemingly) is dilution, ENIC's (I.e Lewis and Levy) would own a slightly smaller part of a larger pie after the investment. The 'value' comes from growing the business: 80% ownership of a £6b company is worth more than 100% of a £4b company.

Ghost Hardware · Jan 15, 2023

Hotspur88 said:
You would assume if they were at the training ground yesterday, it's highly likely they would be at the game today

Assuming it happened Im surprised nothing has leaked about it yet. Maybe it will in time. It’s the kind of thing one would assume wouldn’t be that easy to keep under wraps considering how many media eyes are on this potential deal.

GetKaned · Jan 15, 2023

Gb160 said:
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I am pro "dont penny pinch for 5mn on a vital position"

Hotspur88 · Jan 15, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
Assuming it happened Im surprised nothing has leaked about it yet. Maybe it will in time. It’s the kind of thing one would assume wouldn’t be that easy to keep under wraps considering how many media eyes are on this potential deal.

The club has shut down a lot of leaks recently and far less is getting out now. I know DL and Nasser meet regularly so if people are basing the rumours from meetings then that's nothing new, but I think there may be more too it tbh.

tubbygold · Jan 15, 2023

ukdy said:
Not sure if already posted..

PSG to leave Parc des Princes amid mayor row

Paris Saint-Germain will leave the Parc des Princes, their home ground since the club's formation in 1970.

www.espn.com

Also not sure if QSI was already aware, and is exploring options hence speaking to DL / ENIC.

So they want to move our stadium to Paris?

Amo · Jan 15, 2023

Yantino said:
As I said previously, I don’t see it as hypocrisy. The game has changed due to Chelsea, City and shortly Newcastle, you just have to accept that this is now a fact. We are simply not going to be able to keep up with these teams plus the likes of Utd and Liverpool without changing something. The ENIC model we are currently working to just will not result in the trophies we all want.

Everything is in place at Spurs with the exception of on the field funding to match the biggest clubs.

Our club is a no brainier for someone looking for investment into the league IMO.

lol the logic people employ to convince themselves.

For the love of Spurs · Jan 15, 2023

Not hugely impressed if this happens but it appears the game is fucked either way. The only ‘’moral’’ way would be to not support Tottenham or any premier league club and start supporting some non-league team.

We either get dodgy investment or remain in this cycle that goes nowhere under ENIC and that is not even mentioning our own owner Joe is dodgy. Although being owned by an actual country just seems so bizarre and screwed up.

Football has been bought and sold and each person has to decide if their love for Tottenham is enough to ignore what surrounds it. For most like me the club is a love so I will just carry on and if we sell our sold to the devil we had better get some silverware as payback.

Bluto Blutarsky · Jan 15, 2023

I am curious what the response would be if Joe Lewis woke up one day and decided that his new life goal was to own a PL champion - and decided to invest £500m of his own money into the squad to achieve that goal.

Because - it seems like that is what a lot of people want him to do, so I assume they would be ok with that investment. Yet, many of the same people are troubled by QSI - either as a "bad" partner for Spurs, or simply because investing that kind of money is "ruining" the game.

Amo · Jan 15, 2023

People keep talking about “survival” and “keeping up with other murderous clubs” as if your club winning titles is a right enshrined in the Magna Fucking Carta. As if it’s something we just have to do at risk of death if not doing it.

Food is a human necessity. Water is a human necessity.

Accepting the fact brown people will die as a direct consequence of Harry Kane lifting a fucking tin pot isn’t a necessity. Life will go on without it.

nailsy · Jan 15, 2023

I'll pass.

bc205 · Jan 15, 2023

Bluto Blutarsky said:
I am curious what the response would be if Joe Lewis woke up one day and decided that his new life goal was to own a PL champion - and decided to invest £500m of his own money into the squad to achieve that goal.

Because - it seems like that is what a lot of people want him to do, so I assume they would be ok with that investment. Yet, many of the same people are troubled by QSI - either as a "bad" partner for Spurs, or simply because investing that kind of money is "ruining" the game.

I think many people who oppose the QSI investment are doing it because of the sportswashing angle. So it's a different type of investment to any by Lewis/ENIC. That's certainly how i view it. Lewis wouldn't be investing money to launder human rights abuses and gain political influence.

Duke of Northumberland · Jan 15, 2023

Hotspur88 said:
You would assume if they were at the training ground yesterday, it's highly likely they would be at the game today.

“Ah yes, come and meet our top goalscorer. You know, the one you threatened to send home from the WC because of an arm band.”

It’s absurd. I’ll be surprised if it happens tbh. Levy has positioned the club all along for a US takeover and there were others that wanted Chelsea.

Trent Crimm · Jan 15, 2023

Bluto Blutarsky said:
I am curious what the response would be if Joe Lewis woke up one day and decided that his new life goal was to own a PL champion - and decided to invest £500m of his own money into the squad to achieve that goal.

Because - it seems like that is what a lot of people want him to do, so I assume they would be ok with that investment. Yet, many of the same people are troubled by QSI - either as a "bad" partner for Spurs, or simply because investing that kind of money is "ruining" the game.

If Joe did that. He’d go back to sleep.

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