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I would argue that setting us up to play games like we're a cup underdog, even against poor teams, is short changing the fans.
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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Nick-TopSpursMan
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Spot on, who’s he actually talking about here?
This isn’t like 2014 when we had the likes of Kaboul, Capoue, Adebayor etc.
We may have some players who aren’t good enough but I really don’t see many ‘bad apples’.
Is he talking about Son, Kane, Dier, Davies? Those are the guys who start regularly and have been around for the longest. Anyone saying Kane isn’t trying has lost it, he’s a model pro. Son clearly cares about the club. Davies and Dier are limited but you can’t say they don’t try.
The players may just be drained by the defensive and negative football we’ve been playing since mid 2019.
Yet he will win plenty of silverware after he’s left us, confirming that “elite” status he has.
RuskyM
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The “all the players I don’t like are the problem, obviously they’re lazy scum; not the ones I like though they’re good” says a lot more about the person arguing it than the players. Easy targets hung out to dry to protect the egos of dickheads.
In which case he would have one of the poorest records of any Spurs managers in the last twenty years. I find that highly implausible.
I agree but he isn’t trying. Against Southampton there was countless times when a Southampton player was stood with 3 yards of him and he couldn’t be arsed to press.
This is on a weeks rest with no other focus this season. It’s pathetic.
If is part of the problem. Yes he scored but I thought he was very poor against Southampton
spursfan77
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If true it’s the least surprising thing I’ve ready in the last 24 plus hours
These are points that a lot of us have been saying though.
The Manager sets the tone and sets the expectations and again, is supposed to inspire, lead, motivate... but if his actions do not match his expectations and there is no congruence - it is a losing battle. Lets not even mention the fact that Conte has been pretty much berating them since first stepping in - calling them average.
If we replicate in our own work places - we work to progress, if the very manager who is in charge of that is leaving in a few months - then why fucking bother eh.
And lets not suggest they should do it for the fans, we are also fickle, we want half of them out - so why would they play for us either. The badge? they dont support Spurs and majority dont love the club.
We have spent a lot of money, some of it has been misspent but we have some talent - just seen Spence play against Mbappe and well, Mbappe didnt do a lot.
ajspurs
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Yeah I don't think I would care to be honest, feels a little similar to the Jose situation in that the toxicity was so high that anything was better. Personally, I'm not confident going into any game right now with not only the football we're serving up, but with what seems to be a diminishing mood around the club and possibly relations between the players and manager too, which could be increasingly strained after yesterday's comments.
@wadewill didn’t mention anything about money spent or qualify in detail the statement ‘done something decent with it’ - that could be interpreted as secure top 4 & win a cup whilst playing attractive football, yet you’ve gone off on a rant!
IMHO Pep is a much better coach than Conte, and most likely would have squeezed more out of this squad than the tactically inflexible Conte has.
Tezza1978
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And a packet of love hearts and thats my FINAL OFFER!!
Conte won the league and FA cup in 2 years at Chelsea on a fraction of what Pep spent.
Chelsea were tenth the season before he took over.
I would sincerely question whether you have been paying attention
He will never, ever win anything on club remotely comparable to us. Nothing, nada. Should he overtake Atletico Madrid or Roma or such club with some gap to clubs on biggest resources on corresponding leagues and with his record on cups and Europe (probably worst record on Europe on any given manager looking the clubs he has managed there) and his style he will win nothing. Absolutely nothing.
fishhhandaricecake
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I really think this is such a key point.
Imagine 3 years of low block rigid anti possession football where creativity and attacking bravery are almost discouraged.
Add to that you know none of Jose, Nuno or Conte are going to be around for long and they’re all pretty negative characters/energy.
If I’m a player in our squad the last 3 seasons I’d be depressed as fuck.
Some of our players aren’t good enough but no way would I question many of their attitudes in fact I can point to a huge number of them who deeply care and try 110% and are model pros!!!
Hugo, Forster
Emerson, Dier, Davies, Perisic
PEH, Skipp,
Son, Kulu,
Kane
There are a lot of good guys there and in the squad overall very few bad eggs.
Conte is just trying to save face.
Ah diddums, ENIC Dier doesn’t like being told he is turd
Albertbarich
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Someone made the point about Conte and Mourinhos style of management working short-term as it's like a shock to the system which over time wears off and I can see that
Think to your own job. If your manager is moping about , making it quite apparent how unhappy he is, everyday he makes your day as boring and hard as possible with a shitty work schedule and micro management and then to top it off is dropping hints that he is leaving soon how would you and your colleagues react? It's no way to motivate and lead a team full of people is it?
These players aren't perfect and I'd like to see some upgraded but they're still premier league internationals who have done just fine previously. If he wants consequences for people letting them down, drop em, bring a kid in if you have to prove a point. Isn't that what Poch did? But this bloke doesn't even rotate nevermind drop.
Do we need better defenders? Yes one million percent but considering the experience our people in these positions have , considering the misely defensive sleep inducing football we play there is no way on earth that some of the blame doesn't lie with him when you look at just how bad our record is. Whatever he is coaching/motivating / planning isn't working . So yeah we can say look at history but they were mostly different players, he absolutely should have done better this season.
Think to your own job. If your manager is moping about , making it quite apparent how unhappy he is, everyday he makes your day as boring and hard as possible with a shitty work schedule and micro management and then to top it off is dropping hints that he is leaving soon how would you and your colleagues react? It's no way to motivate and lead a team full of people is it?
These players aren't perfect and I'd like to see some upgraded but they're still premier league internationals who have done just fine previously. If he wants consequences for people letting them down, drop em, bring a kid in if you have to prove a point. Isn't that what Poch did? But this bloke doesn't even rotate nevermind drop.
Do we need better defenders? Yes one million percent but considering the experience our people in these positions have , considering the misely defensive sleep inducing football we play there is no way on earth that some of the blame doesn't lie with him when you look at just how bad our record is. Whatever he is coaching/motivating / planning isn't working . So yeah we can say look at history but they were mostly different players, he absolutely should have done better this season.
Maybe the players should make a statement about him not knowing how to set up a team to play attacking football? Maybe he'll want to prove then wrong
To be fair, I would back Conte over the players who have won fuck all.
fishhhandaricecake
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not good for it to carry on like this, but knowing levy when it would actually make sense to sack a manager a la now… he’ll end up keeping him on 
RuskyM
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Why’d he leave then if he was so good?
Just pointlessly vindictive, based on absolutely nothing.
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