Harry Kane

Reece_Spurs · Jul 22, 2023

Huddlebone said:
I am honestly afraid that Levy thinks he can squeeze Bayern for more than 100m pounds, then we most likely will see the situation where Kane stays this year, and we end up with the cheaper CB option, then end up in 6-9th place and be in an even bigger panic next summer when he leaves for free to Chelsea or United. Haaland left for 70m with one year, so therefore fair pricing would In my opinion be around the 80-90m at the highest.

But you're not taking into consideration what a prime Kane could do next season to actually benefit out situation?

I 100% appreciate getting the money now and reinvesting but i just don't trust the reinvestment being honest.

olliec · Jul 22, 2023

I think Kane does love the club, but there is a good chance enough is enough when it comes to levy. We all seen and read how he does things, and Kane likely wants to move on. I wish him well and hope he gets a bag full of trophies to get the camel off his back which he has had to live with for so long. If he goes Bayern I’ll be watching them on a regular basis.

Cel · Jul 22, 2023

Huddlebone said:
I am honestly afraid that Levy thinks he can squeeze Bayern for more than 100m pounds, then we most likely will see the situation where Kane stays this year, and we end up with the cheaper CB option, then end up in 6-9th place and be in an even bigger panic next summer when he leaves for free to Chelsea or United. Haaland left for 70m with one year, so therefore fair pricing would In my opinion be around the 80-90m at the highest.

Haaland left as city triggered a 70m release clause, I thought?

Pochemon94 · Jul 22, 2023

Cel said:
Haaland left as city triggered a 70m release clause, I thought?

yeah it was a release clause.

Smokinhotspur · Jul 22, 2023

Tezza1978 said:
Some revisionism here. In 2021 the stadium wasn't even open for several months, COVID and the enormous financial impact of it to the Prem and us was still a big thing. Absolutely zero chance we would have been in a position to offer him a contract like that 2 years ago

It's a moot point whether the club could have offered that contract 2 years ago or not, it would not have been accepted. We were in an absolute mess after the Mourinho shitshow that led to the debacle which ended in Nuno being appointed. Understandably, he'd clearly had enough at that point and was desperate to move on for his own sporting ambitions.

stormfly · Jul 22, 2023

Huddlebone said:
I am honestly afraid that Levy thinks he can squeeze Bayern for more than 100m pounds, then we most likely will see the situation where Kane stays this year, and we end up with the cheaper CB option, then end up in 6-9th place and be in an even bigger panic next summer when he leaves for free to Chelsea or United. Haaland left for 70m with one year, so therefore fair pricing would In my opinion be around the 80-90m at the highest.

If we need to sell our star player so we can buy a more expensive option at CB then we have been fed a lie and it was pointless building our new stadium. Before we know it we will be selling our best players to Man U again because any good player will see that we seriously lack ambition.

Riandor · Jul 22, 2023

Pochemon94 said:
yeah it was a release clause.

It was also only under the proviso that Raiola got the same again as a fee. In essence he cost Man City 150€, it just didn’t all go to Dortmund.

I appreciate English tax between EPL clubs, but if Rice is £105m, the Kane should be over £100m given he is a striker.

coysjod · Jul 22, 2023

Yiddo1982 said:
Yeah, plus a talented winger too, such as Mitoma. There’s just a dearth of decent CFs at the mo. Prioritise a world class winger in the Ange mould and Son/Richy in the middle

Not a tad big?

Mr Pink · Jul 22, 2023

Scott Spur said:
Pink mate, you’re still missing the point.

What are the facts?

1 - Kane wanted to leave in 2021. We know that for sure from his own interview with Neville, let alone the constant leaks to the media from Chopper Charlie.

2 - Kane felt the club, Levy, were not allowing him to move, so he tried to force it. How do we know? He didn’t arrive back in time for preseason, effectively going on strike. It caused a media storm and the club subsequently fined him.

Those aren’t ITK or tabloid gossip, they are the facts.

Now consider the person. Kane isn’t Ndombele, he’s ‘one of our own’, England Captain, Mr Squeeky Clean. Can anyone honestly think such a desperate move like that on his part didn’t affect his relationship with the club & Levy? Did he magically forget it all on September 1st 2021 and hug Willow, mewing ‘all is forgotten Dear Leader’, COYS, H? He clearly felt let down and lost trust in the club/Levy.

So my original point stands, if Harry felt pigged off to do something completely out of character - arguably the very last person you’d expect that from in the PL - then relationships were soured that summer, probably beyond repair. Yes. City played their part, but Kane went on strike long before the close of the window and City still had plenty of time to offer more well after. This wasn’t about City, it was about Kane and Levy.

To be fair, Levy has done nothing since to prove Kane was wrong in wanting to leave and I’d back A&C to become Pope before he signs a new contract.

I'm not missing the point.

Had City offered a serious sum for him I'm sure it would of been looked at.

west indie · Jul 22, 2023

Huddlebone said:
I am honestly afraid that Levy thinks he can squeeze Bayern for more than 100m pounds, then we most likely will see the situation where Kane stays this year, and we end up with the cheaper CB option, then end up in 6-9th place and be in an even bigger panic next summer when he leaves for free to Chelsea or United. Haaland left for 70m with one year, so therefore fair pricing would In my opinion be around the 80-90m at the highest.

Dont worry about things you cannot control, focus on enjoying your summer and let things play out Huddlebone.

Styopa · Jul 22, 2023

Mr Pink said:
I'm not missing the point.

Had City offered a serious sum for him I'm sure it would of been looked at.

I think by all accounts, had Man City matched the alleged asking price of 150m, we may well have him let him go.

But it's still possible that Kane felt that Levy was being too demanding. I'm sure I remember Bale and Modric being frustrated about Levy's way of doing business when they wanted to leave. So the relationship between Levy and Kane might have been damaged, even if Kane accepts that Man City never met Levy's asking price.

Kane probably learned something from the experience, too, making it even less likely he would sign a new contract.

Haddock · Jul 22, 2023

Smokinhotspur said:
It's a moot point whether the club could have offered that contract 2 years ago or not, it would not have been accepted. We were in an absolute mess after the Mourinho shitshow that led to the debacle which ended in Nuno being appointed. Understandably, he'd clearly had enough at that point and was desperate to move on for his own sporting ambitions.

We’re still an absolute mess until proven otherwise. Yes, we have started to rectify things and we’re on the right track. But let’s be honest. The most likely scenario this season is that it will be a transitional season.

Kane is entering the twilight of his career and like all other players at his level he’ll want to play in a club that competes on all fronts. It won’t be enough that we’ll play ”fast attacking” football in my opinion.

Personally I don’t believe Kane has any intention of signing a new contract.

Styopa · Jul 22, 2023

Haddock said:
We’re still an absolute mess until proven otherwise. Yes, we have started to rectify things and we’re on the right track. But let’s be honest. The most likely scenario this season is that it will be a transitional season.

Kane is entering the twilight of his career and like all other players at his level he’ll want to play in a club that competes on all fronts. It won’t be enough that we’ll play ”fast attacking” football in my opinion.

Personally I don’t believe Kane has any intention of signing a new contract.

I think there is a slight chance we 'overachieve' this season due to not being in Europe. Indeed, other teams, including ourselves, have benefited from the reduced number of games and extra preparation time that results from not being in Europe.

But overall, I agree. Harry will have offers from teams winning titles, domestic cups and competing for Champions Leagues. Whereas Levy's ambition is probably for us to become Champions League regulars again- with anything else a bonus.

olliec · Jul 22, 2023

Kind of makes you sick that teams like vllla just go out and pay the price for the player the team wants where as we have to haggle on absolutely everything we do. Kane has probably seen enough, and can see that we are never going to be challenging under Enic and he’s coming to the prime of his career. Cant blame him to be honest. My only hope is we use the money wisely, and let ange have first choice on what he needs.

But when it comes to levy paying himself a nice wager. More than any other chairman the PL, I bet he doesn’t struggle coming to a figure.

Japhet · Jul 22, 2023

Haddock said:
We’re still an absolute mess until proven otherwise. Yes, we have started to rectify things and we’re on the right track. But let’s be honest. The most likely scenario this season is that it will be a transitional season.

Kane is entering the twilight of his career and like all other players at his level he’ll want to play in a club that competes on all fronts. It won’t be enough that we’ll play ”fast attacking” football in my opinion.

Personally I don’t believe Kane has any intention of signing a new contract.

I think we'll just have to wait and see how Ange gets us playing and how appealing that is to Kane. As things stand, if Bayern are really offering E115m for him, I think we should grasp the nettle, take that and move on if he wants to go there. E115m is a huge gamble to take when the odds are against you, or at least not hugely in your favour.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Jul 22, 2023

olliec said:
Kind of makes you a sick that teams like vllla just go out and pay the price for the player the team wants where as we have to haggle on absolutely everything we do. Kane has probably seen enough, and can see that we are never going to be challenging under Enic and he’s coming to the prime of his career. Cant blame him to be honest. My only hope is we use the money wisely, and let ange have first choice on what he needs.

But when it comes to levy paying himself a nice wager. More than any other chairman the PL, I bet he doesn’t struggle coming to a figure.

Ah right, you were one of those who was on here saying we should have paid £60m for Maddison or £35m for Kulu? Are you pissed off we got them for cheaper?

mmidgers · Jul 22, 2023

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
Ah right, you were one of those who was on here saying we should have paid £60m for Maddison or £35m for Kulu? Are you pissed off we got them for cheaper?

chas vs dave · Jul 22, 2023

olliec said:
Kind of makes you a sick that teams like vllla just go out and pay the price for the player the team wants where as we have to haggle on absolutely everything we do. Kane has probably seen enough, and can see that we are never going to be challenging under Enic and he’s coming to the prime of his career. Cant blame him to be honest. My only hope is we use the money wisely, and let ange have first choice on what he needs.

But when it comes to levy paying himself a nice wager. More than any other chairman the PL, I bet he doesn’t struggle coming to a figure.

Villa didn't pay the price, they bid, it was rejected. They've only got to the price because the Saudis tried to gazump them.

The issue is that us, Liverpool and utd are the only 3 teams who are self funded, so we are operating with our hands tied behind our back.

I get the feeling that Levy is hoping the new ffp rules coming in will level the playing field. It arguably would put us in one of the strongest positions.

However, I think it's nieve to think the new ffp will make a difference. Uefa are shit at enforcing governance.

Wearegoingtowintheleague · Jul 22, 2023

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
Ah right, you were one of those who was on here saying we should have paid £60m for Maddison or £35m for Kulu? Are you pissed off we got them for cheaper?

I really don't think that is what he is talking about.

More like when we could have Grealish for £20 million but Levy thought Villa were in financial trouble so he could have got him for £15 million. We lost out when £20 million was a bargain for him.

I believe the wider point is there have been players within our budget that managers have identified but Levy holds up the deal trying to squeeze every last penny out of it. Yes we have some successes, but often it's to our detriment when so much time has been wasted on a player we end up not getting or we end up getting at the end of the transfer window when they've missed pre-season.

But this isn't about other players its about Kane.

I feel we had our chance to show Harry we were serious about challenging but never took it and Levy continues to operate in the same way. Nothing has changed so I feel Harry will walk for nothing unless we are able to sell.

With the way we operate i dont think we can afford to lose out on 100 million, so if we get an offer in around that sadly i think we should accept it, if Harry would go that is.

dontcallme · Jul 22, 2023

Always good to see a Levy and Grealish discussion in the Kane thread.

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